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Re: We could have had either Schroder or the Greek Freak
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2014, 06:40:32 AM »

Offline clover

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Okay, I do remember Schroeder being compared to Rondo in some mock drafts, but I don't see any similarities between them, honestly, so what did I miss?

Even if he does, it makes even more sense not to draft him.

Why take someone who's potential is what we already have?

If Schroeder was anything like Rondo, he would have been a lottery pick, especially in that draft.

If anyone had known that Rondo was going to become Rondo, he would have been a lottery pick, especially in that draft.

Wait, I thought he was nothing more than a mediocre, role playing, 3rd tier point guard (sarcasm) ::).  I wonder who made that pick?  Was it Ainge, or someone else, do you think?

My point is simply that how good a player will be in the NBA is not directly correlated with where that player was picked in the draft. 

Schroeder is going to be good.  Will he be as good as Rondo?

I don't know, but I hope so.

What is this based on, really?

Last season Schroeder played 49 games at an average of 13 MPG, and in that time he averaged (per 36 minutes) 10 points, 5.2 assists, 3.4 rebounds, 1 steal, 0 blocks, 3.4 turnovers.  He shot 38% from the field, 24% from three and 67% from the free throw line.

Rondo's stats in his rookie season weren't indicative of what he;d become either, at least offensively (9.9 points, 5.8 assists, 42% FG, 21% three pointers, 65% free throws).  But the difference is that even in his rookie year, Rondo showed far greater signs of potential. He averaged a very impressive 5.7 rebounds and 2.5 steals per 36 minutes which are both elite for his position.  He also had a pretty good assist-per-turnover ratio (2.1) while Shroeder's was comparatively pretty average (1.6) due to the fact that he both averaged less assists and more turnovers.

People might turn up their nose at those stats but remember that as much as Rondo is an elite playmaker, it's his complementary skills (the ability to pile up triple doubles with his rebounding and his multiple all-defensive team selections) that pushed him up from being a 'good starter' to being a 'multi time All-Star'.  Ifnot for these things, he'd just be another Andre Miller / Ricky Rubio...nice players, but not all stars.

So far Schroeder hasn't shown me any indication of a guy who can take that next level aside from the 18 points per 36 he is currently averaging...but I MUST take that with a grain of salt given his measly 16 MPG that he's averaged over 14 games this season. 

Those are not the stats of a future star...they are the stats of a third string PG.  I'm thinking Phil Pressey but with less impressive passing skills.



This season his numbers have gone up to a much more impressive

I think you're cherry picking and not taking into account their differing preparation for the NBA. For example, Schroder's already a better FT shooter than Rondo has ever been. But Rondo went to the top NBA-prep prep school, followed by the top NBA-prep college. Schroder came over from playing in Germany.

Schroder currently has a higher PER than Rondo, but Rondo of course has been a very good player.

Re: We could have had either Schroder or the Greek Freak
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2014, 09:07:01 AM »

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'Most unique' is not a thing.


It's sort of like Giannis's actual basketball accomplishments, in that regard.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: We could have had either Schroder or the Greek Freak
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2014, 09:15:35 AM »

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German Rondo is good but it's not too hard to find this type of player.
It is also not too hard to fall in love with players because of the one time you saw them play against your team.

that one game 2-3 years ago when Austin Rivers played very well against us, people wanted him
People who plays well against the Celtics, doesn't matter who they are, man they must be a great player