Looks like Tommy can't take it anymore

[puskas54_10]

{Of Heinsohn's advice, Rondo said, "Just stay positive. Continue to push the pace -- in the fourth quarter we tend to walk the ball up the court. Myself, I was just sharing my thoughts about how it’s hard to push the pace when the ball’s going through the net every time. It’s just difficult. Like I said, it starts on the defensive end of the floor."}

So he knows where the problem is and tried to tell Rondo (not the first time obviously)
and Rondo, either is making excuses to not to do it, or he want's to but simply can't do it

I'm pretty sure the spurs pushs the pace almost everytime in the finals no matter it's a made basket or not, so it can be done, and that shows how Rondo's playstyle(mentality) doesn't fit BS's motion offense-pace&space system, yet

My only take away from this is that Rondo is doing what Rondo thinks is the best. You can say anything to him, and you can be anybody (even Tommy) he will do what he thinks is the best, not what coaches or respected former players say or just suggest. He's clearly not an easy player to deal with. He's a stobborn as a mule.The problem is he's not the superstar he thinks he is like younger Kobe or Lebron. So not worth the ado.

Hmm..well from the quotes he gave (I posted them on page 2) seems to say the opposite of what you think.

"Tommy is a guy I've been talking to since Day One," Rondo said. "He's been a big fan of mine and I believe in what he's done here in the past. He's done it all. Anytime a guy like Tommy wants to share something, I always try to listen."

"He's the biggest supporter here," Rondo said of Heinsohn. "He's here every night, at every home game. He's rooting for us. He wants the best for our team. And he had some good advice for me. I'm going to take it and share that with my guys and figure some things out."

I know Rondo the player pretty well. As a Ray Allen fan I eagerly watched this team since 2007, even after Ray left. He will do what he wants and thinks is best. He's not a mean guy off the field I bet, so he says respectful things to Tommy, but he really don't give a crap, he will do his things on the court as he wants. No Big 3 anymore to take a backseat. It's his show.

So I guess that's why he gave the ball to Smart to run the offense when he crossed half court on multiple occasions . Or Turner and Green . He sets KO up for open threes that he just passes on ,but it all comes back to Rondo's selfishness, I see....

He's not selfish. He just thinks he's above other players on the team. He gave up the ball because he thought that's the best option, if Smart will fail to generate offense in Rondo's book he will get the ball fewer. The point is: Rondo does what he believes the best for the team, not what the coach says.

How on earth can you ever make that statement unless you are on the coaching staff?  Does Stevens call you up and give you personal updates?  I am sorry but you are just making stuff up.

Once in the huddle in of the last couple games Rondo said "It's his team". Somebody talked about it here at celticsblog.

Exactly how does Rondo saying it is 'his team' ie taking leadership responsibility = Rondo not doing what the coach says?  There is zero logic in your statement.

Seriously why don't you give us a link to an article where Rondo says that he doesn't do what the coach says?  Or even better find us some quotes from Stevens saying Rondo ignores what he says to do on the court?  You, like the rest of us, have no idea what Stevens is saying to Rondo.  Acting like you know is just silly.

Please, please, please. I never said I know better than anybody. It's my opinion. You know nothing, I know nothing. Why is a blog afterall? We just discuss opinions.

And I bet you are a Rondo lover.
Rondo: "It's my team!"
You: "He's a good leader!"
Me: "He thinks he's above the team, while he faling big time in the clutch. If it's your team, then take over, not pass it all the time to average players to make plays instead of you!"

[BballTim]

{Of Heinsohn's advice, Rondo said, "Just stay positive. Continue to push the pace -- in the fourth quarter we tend to walk the ball up the court. Myself, I was just sharing my thoughts about how it’s hard to push the pace when the ball’s going through the net every time. It’s just difficult. Like I said, it starts on the defensive end of the floor."}

So he knows where the problem is and tried to tell Rondo (not the first time obviously)
and Rondo, either is making excuses to not to do it, or he want's to but simply can't do it

I'm pretty sure the spurs pushs the pace almost everytime in the finals no matter it's a made basket or not, so it can be done, and that shows how Rondo's playstyle(mentality) doesn't fit BS's motion offense-pace&space system, yet

My only take away from this is that Rondo is doing what Rondo thinks is the best. You can say anything to him, and you can be anybody (even Tommy) he will do what he thinks is the best, not what coaches or respected former players say or just suggest. He's clearly not an easy player to deal with. He's a stobborn as a mule.The problem is he's not the superstar he thinks he is like younger Kobe or Lebron. So not worth the ado.

Hmm..well from the quotes he gave (I posted them on page 2) seems to say the opposite of what you think.

"Tommy is a guy I've been talking to since Day One," Rondo said. "He's been a big fan of mine and I believe in what he's done here in the past. He's done it all. Anytime a guy like Tommy wants to share something, I always try to listen."

"He's the biggest supporter here," Rondo said of Heinsohn. "He's here every night, at every home game. He's rooting for us. He wants the best for our team. And he had some good advice for me. I'm going to take it and share that with my guys and figure some things out."

I know Rondo the player pretty well. As a Ray Allen fan I eagerly watched this team since 2007, even after Ray left. He will do what he wants and thinks is best. He's not a mean guy off the field I bet, so he says respectful things to Tommy, but he really don't give a crap, he will do his things on the court as he wants. No Big 3 anymore to take a backseat. It's his show.

  When people start assigning motives to players they generally go off the reservation. You've got zero evidence that Rondo's not doing what the coach wants him to.

[puskas54_10]

I realize that, and I'll reiterate, that happens all the time.

In case you don't believe me:
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7737321/los-angeles-lakers-kobe-bryant-unhappy-being-benched-late-memphis-grizzlies

"Of course I was," Bryant told reporters when asked if he was upset about the benching.

Bryant hesitated to elaborate. "Not really," he said at first when asked if he could speak about the substitution, but went on to support Lakers coach Mike Brown when further pressed about the benching.

"It's his decision to make," Bryant said. "He makes the decision. He's the coach. If you guys are looking for a story, I'm not going to give you one.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/18/sports/la-sp-sn-russell-westbrook-20120618

"It was the coach's decision," Westbrook said. "You have to live with it. Didn't have too many conversations of coming back into the game, just kind of just waited and seeing when I get called to go back in."

http://www.crabdribbles.com/gasol-gets-benched-for-entire-fourth-quarter-says-hes-frustrated-with-looks-on-offense/

“That’s not my decision,” Gasol said of his benching. “I’m a professional. When my number is called, I’m out there. But it’s something that hasn’t happened to me.”

“All my looks are jump shots,” Gasol said. “I would like to see something to the basket and not just something rolling when Dwight is there.”

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225178/Humphries-Understands-Benching-Despire-Frustration

"He just said he was starting Gerald [Wallace] and it was going to be inconsistent for me for a while," Humphries said. "I really didn't know it was going to be a DNP, but you've got to be ready to handle anything in the NBA.

"Anybody wants to start and play as much as possible, so you are obviously frustrated. But it's about more than one player."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24395356/nuggets-andre-miller-got-into-a-heated-argument-with-brian-shaw

Miller yelled about the disrespect he felt he was being shown by sitting. And if he was being disrespected, he'd do the same to the Nuggets' first-year head coach.

"There's a time and place for everything," Shaw said. "In the middle of the arena in front of everyone ... I just tried to calm it down."

I give you TP for your work, but

Kobe benching: Mike Bronw was fired after just a couple games. Maybe Kobe did not support him afterall.

Gasol was not a real star in 2012 anymore.

Andre Miller was never a star player.

I almost forget Hump. He is an average player.

Andre Miller is, if nothing else, one of the nine most prolific passers in NBA history.

You asked for an example involving Kobe -- I gave you one. Even Kobe Bryant gets benched (Mike Brown is a terrible coach, though).

The point is, in normal circumstances, coaches control rotations, not players. The Lakers are such a trash fire that Kobe has to play all those minutes: they have no one else of his caliber, even though he's a withered shell. LeBron is the best player in the league right now, why would you bench him? Those are two pretty extreme outliers, and don't really apply to the way the league actually works.

Just make a poll about Andre Miller. "Is he ever was a star player?" or "Was he a star player in 2012 when Shaw benched him?"

Star players like Kobe doesn't get benched When it happens the coach is on borrowed time.
Come on, you know it, you just try to get cute.

[Beat LA]

{Of Heinsohn's advice, Rondo said, "Just stay positive. Continue to push the pace -- in the fourth quarter we tend to walk the ball up the court. Myself, I was just sharing my thoughts about how it’s hard to push the pace when the ball’s going through the net every time. It’s just difficult. Like I said, it starts on the defensive end of the floor."}

So he knows where the problem is and tried to tell Rondo (not the first time obviously)
and Rondo, either is making excuses to not to do it, or he want's to but simply can't do it

I'm pretty sure the spurs pushs the pace almost everytime in the finals no matter it's a made basket or not, so it can be done, and that shows how Rondo's playstyle(mentality) doesn't fit BS's motion offense-pace&space system, yet

My only take away from this is that Rondo is doing what Rondo thinks is the best. You can say anything to him, and you can be anybody (even Tommy) he will do what he thinks is the best, not what coaches or respected former players say or just suggest. He's clearly not an easy player to deal with. He's a stobborn as a mule.The problem is he's not the superstar he thinks he is like younger Kobe or Lebron. So not worth the ado.

Hmm..well from the quotes he gave (I posted them on page 2) seems to say the opposite of what you think.

"Tommy is a guy I've been talking to since Day One," Rondo said. "He's been a big fan of mine and I believe in what he's done here in the past. He's done it all. Anytime a guy like Tommy wants to share something, I always try to listen."

"He's the biggest supporter here," Rondo said of Heinsohn. "He's here every night, at every home game. He's rooting for us. He wants the best for our team. And he had some good advice for me. I'm going to take it and share that with my guys and figure some things out."

I know Rondo the player pretty well. As a Ray Allen fan I eagerly watched this team since 2007, even after Ray left. He will do what he wants and thinks is best. He's not a mean guy off the field I bet, so he says respectful things to Tommy, but he really don't give a crap, he will do his things on the court as he wants. No Big 3 anymore to take a backseat. It's his show.

So I guess that's why he gave the ball to Smart to run the offense when he crossed half court on multiple occasions . Or Turner and Green . He sets KO up for open threes that he just passes on ,but it all comes back to Rondo's selfishness, I see....

He's not selfish. He just thinks he's above other players on the team. He gave up the ball because he thought that's the best option, if Smart will fail to generate offense in Rondo's book he will get the ball fewer. The point is: Rondo does what he believes the best for the team, not what the coach says.

If any part of that last sentence was true, why has he adhered to what Stevens is calling for him to do out there this season?

One question for you:
Do you think Kobe does what the coach says to him all the time?
Do you think Lebron does what the coach says to him all the time?

Coaches will not say eff Kobe he did not do what I said.

It's the NBA, star player often overrule coaches, the problem with Rondo is that he's nowhere near that good like prime Kobe or Lebron.

Those are two questions, and coaches bench players all the time, regardless of how the players feel about it.

Nice nitpicking. You get a big applaud for it!

So when was Kobe or Lebron benched? When was KG benched? I can tell this about other star players too.

It's not nitpicking at all, it's a fact. Remember when Pop benched Tim Duncan (and they lost the game) or when Spoelstra benched Hibbert (and they lost the game)? Both of those things happened in the playoffs, and there was a lot of hand-wringing about it.

Um, I think the coach you're looking for is Vogel .

[blink]

{Of Heinsohn's advice, Rondo said, "Just stay positive. Continue to push the pace -- in the fourth quarter we tend to walk the ball up the court. Myself, I was just sharing my thoughts about how it’s hard to push the pace when the ball’s going through the net every time. It’s just difficult. Like I said, it starts on the defensive end of the floor."}

So he knows where the problem is and tried to tell Rondo (not the first time obviously)
and Rondo, either is making excuses to not to do it, or he want's to but simply can't do it

I'm pretty sure the spurs pushs the pace almost everytime in the finals no matter it's a made basket or not, so it can be done, and that shows how Rondo's playstyle(mentality) doesn't fit BS's motion offense-pace&space system, yet

My only take away from this is that Rondo is doing what Rondo thinks is the best. You can say anything to him, and you can be anybody (even Tommy) he will do what he thinks is the best, not what coaches or respected former players say or just suggest. He's clearly not an easy player to deal with. He's a stobborn as a mule.The problem is he's not the superstar he thinks he is like younger Kobe or Lebron. So not worth the ado.

Hmm..well from the quotes he gave (I posted them on page 2) seems to say the opposite of what you think.

"Tommy is a guy I've been talking to since Day One," Rondo said. "He's been a big fan of mine and I believe in what he's done here in the past. He's done it all. Anytime a guy like Tommy wants to share something, I always try to listen."

"He's the biggest supporter here," Rondo said of Heinsohn. "He's here every night, at every home game. He's rooting for us. He wants the best for our team. And he had some good advice for me. I'm going to take it and share that with my guys and figure some things out."

I know Rondo the player pretty well. As a Ray Allen fan I eagerly watched this team since 2007, even after Ray left. He will do what he wants and thinks is best. He's not a mean guy off the field I bet, so he says respectful things to Tommy, but he really don't give a crap, he will do his things on the court as he wants. No Big 3 anymore to take a backseat. It's his show.

So I guess that's why he gave the ball to Smart to run the offense when he crossed half court on multiple occasions . Or Turner and Green . He sets KO up for open threes that he just passes on ,but it all comes back to Rondo's selfishness, I see....

He's not selfish. He just thinks he's above other players on the team. He gave up the ball because he thought that's the best option, if Smart will fail to generate offense in Rondo's book he will get the ball fewer. The point is: Rondo does what he believes the best for the team, not what the coach says.

How on earth can you ever make that statement unless you are on the coaching staff?  Does Stevens call you up and give you personal updates?  I am sorry but you are just making stuff up.

Once in the huddle in of the last couple games Rondo said "It's his team". Somebody talked about it here at celticsblog.

Exactly how does Rondo saying it is 'his team' ie taking leadership responsibility = Rondo not doing what the coach says?  There is zero logic in your statement.

Seriously why don't you give us a link to an article where Rondo says that he doesn't do what the coach says?  Or even better find us some quotes from Stevens saying Rondo ignores what he says to do on the court?  You, like the rest of us, have no idea what Stevens is saying to Rondo.  Acting like you know is just silly.

Please, please, please. I never said I know better than anybody. It's my opinion. You know nothing, I know nothing. Why is a blog afterall? We just discuss opinions.

And I bet you are a Rondo lover.
Rondo: "It's my team!"
You: "He's a good leader!"
Me: "He thinks he's above the team, while he faling big time in the clutch. If it's your team, then take over, not pass it all the time to average players to make plays instead of you!"

I am not the one making statements like this:  "The point is: Rondo does what he believes the best for the team, not what the coach says."  That is what you said.

Rondo not following what the coach asks him to do would be a pretty big story, and something most of us would like to know about.  So if that is what you think, and you stand behind it, then give us some proof that is true. 

If you have no proof, and you are just making stuff up to be a troll, then maybe think twice about making statements like that aren't adding much to our discussion and conversation.

[D.o.s.]

Um, I think the coach you're looking for is Vogel .

^Good catch. At least it was Heat/Indiana, and I didn't pull that completely out of nowhere.


puskas:
I don't think Mike Brown got fired because he benched Kobe -- he got fired because he sucked at coaching and everyone on the team hated him. It's called 'lost the confidence of the locker room' in the proper parlance.

Byron Shaw isn't benching Kobe because Shaw wants the Lakers to be playing exactly the way Kobe wants them to play, because that's the system that Shaw found success in (even if it's aged horribly). It's pretty similar to Tommy's endless harping about 'picking up the pace', actually.

[puskas54_10]

{Of Heinsohn's advice, Rondo said, "Just stay positive. Continue to push the pace -- in the fourth quarter we tend to walk the ball up the court. Myself, I was just sharing my thoughts about how it’s hard to push the pace when the ball’s going through the net every time. It’s just difficult. Like I said, it starts on the defensive end of the floor."}

So he knows where the problem is and tried to tell Rondo (not the first time obviously)
and Rondo, either is making excuses to not to do it, or he want's to but simply can't do it

I'm pretty sure the spurs pushs the pace almost everytime in the finals no matter it's a made basket or not, so it can be done, and that shows how Rondo's playstyle(mentality) doesn't fit BS's motion offense-pace&space system, yet

My only take away from this is that Rondo is doing what Rondo thinks is the best. You can say anything to him, and you can be anybody (even Tommy) he will do what he thinks is the best, not what coaches or respected former players say or just suggest. He's clearly not an easy player to deal with. He's a stobborn as a mule.The problem is he's not the superstar he thinks he is like younger Kobe or Lebron. So not worth the ado.

Hmm..well from the quotes he gave (I posted them on page 2) seems to say the opposite of what you think.

"Tommy is a guy I've been talking to since Day One," Rondo said. "He's been a big fan of mine and I believe in what he's done here in the past. He's done it all. Anytime a guy like Tommy wants to share something, I always try to listen."

"He's the biggest supporter here," Rondo said of Heinsohn. "He's here every night, at every home game. He's rooting for us. He wants the best for our team. And he had some good advice for me. I'm going to take it and share that with my guys and figure some things out."

I know Rondo the player pretty well. As a Ray Allen fan I eagerly watched this team since 2007, even after Ray left. He will do what he wants and thinks is best. He's not a mean guy off the field I bet, so he says respectful things to Tommy, but he really don't give a crap, he will do his things on the court as he wants. No Big 3 anymore to take a backseat. It's his show.

  When people start assigning motives to players they generally go off the reservation. You've got zero evidence that Rondo's not doing what the coach wants him to.

I know you very well. You are the one guy on the site, who are making a sport about arguing. You always try get quibble things. And you are Rondo number one fan. So have a good time just not with me.

[kozlodoev]

I never insulted you.

"Edit" is a wonderful feature, isn't it? Too bad that "Quote" is another good one.

In case you haven't figured it out yet, most of the folks around here don't engage in or appreciate petty insults. If you're interested in trash-talk for thirteen-year-olds, I can recommend some other hangouts (the RealGM forums, perhaps?).

 

[Tr1boy]

Rondo is a stubborn, inflexible player.  When Tommy says something it should be considered.

Next game, Rondo still walks up with the ball in the 4th and Tommy starts going crazy again.

Tommy was not like this when the big three were here. He wasn't big on the team pushing the pace bc things worked and we were winning.  Right now , things are different. Rondo does not get it

Rondo should listen to a guy that has won more rings then he can ever dream of winning. 

Some fans here still back up Rondo vs a Legend.  really?   How many rings has he won as a player and coach combined?

So even though explicit Rondo quotes showing how (he appreciated Tommy's advice and how he was listening to it, and how he considered it good advice) you twist it into Rondo ignoring what Tommy says.  You completely missed the point on this whole conversation / thread.  It is really funny and yet completely predictable.

He is still going to slow the pace late in games.  Tommy has been saying to push the pace how many times now?   LOL. how many times does a legend have to tell you to try something, in order for you to do it?

You know he is still going to slow down the pace.

With this unit you need to increase the pace , especially late in games, you tire the other team out by having them chase after you.  Especially against old teams. We have the young legs to do it. We have guys like KO, Zeller that can finish in transition. Take advantage of this.

On the defensive end, press their pg and eat up some of that 24 second clock making it hard for the opposing team to settle in

[puskas54_10]

Um, I think the coach you're looking for is Vogel .

^Good catch. At least it was Heat/Indiana, and I didn't pull that completely out of nowhere.


puskas:
I don't think Mike Brown got fired because he benched Kobe -- he got fired because he sucked at coaching and everyone on the team hated him. It's called 'lost the confidence of the locker room' in the proper parlance.

Byron Shaw isn't benching Kobe because Shaw wants the Lakers to be playing exactly the way Kobe wants them to play, because that's the system that Shaw found success in (even if it's aged horribly). It's pretty similar to Tommy's endless harping about 'picking up the pace', actually.

I think Mike Brown got fired because he did not find a common ground with Kobe. Nobody gets fired after only 5 regular season games in the NBA.

Byron Shaw is actually Byron Scott:) Scott is not better at coaching than Brown at all. He lets Kobe do his things, He keep a lucrative job. Easy.

[Beat LA]

Um, I think the coach you're looking for is Vogel .

^Good catch. At least it was Heat/Indiana, and I didn't pull that completely out of nowhere.


puskas:
I don't think Mike Brown got fired because he benched Kobe -- he got fired because he sucked at coaching and everyone on the team hated him. It's called 'lost the confidence of the locker room' in the proper parlance.

Byron Shaw isn't benching Kobe because Shaw wants the Lakers to be playing exactly the way Kobe wants them to play, because that's the system that Shaw found success in (even if it's aged horribly). It's pretty similar to Tommy's endless harping about 'picking up the pace', actually.

Did you mean Byron Scott or Brian Shaw, because it would be a little difficult for Shaw to bench Kobe seeing as he's the coach of the Nuggets .  Man, that's two slip ups in a row - are you tired or something, lol?

[BballTim]

{Of Heinsohn's advice, Rondo said, "Just stay positive. Continue to push the pace -- in the fourth quarter we tend to walk the ball up the court. Myself, I was just sharing my thoughts about how it’s hard to push the pace when the ball’s going through the net every time. It’s just difficult. Like I said, it starts on the defensive end of the floor."}

So he knows where the problem is and tried to tell Rondo (not the first time obviously)
and Rondo, either is making excuses to not to do it, or he want's to but simply can't do it

I'm pretty sure the spurs pushs the pace almost everytime in the finals no matter it's a made basket or not, so it can be done, and that shows how Rondo's playstyle(mentality) doesn't fit BS's motion offense-pace&space system, yet

My only take away from this is that Rondo is doing what Rondo thinks is the best. You can say anything to him, and you can be anybody (even Tommy) he will do what he thinks is the best, not what coaches or respected former players say or just suggest. He's clearly not an easy player to deal with. He's a stobborn as a mule.The problem is he's not the superstar he thinks he is like younger Kobe or Lebron. So not worth the ado.

Hmm..well from the quotes he gave (I posted them on page 2) seems to say the opposite of what you think.

"Tommy is a guy I've been talking to since Day One," Rondo said. "He's been a big fan of mine and I believe in what he's done here in the past. He's done it all. Anytime a guy like Tommy wants to share something, I always try to listen."

"He's the biggest supporter here," Rondo said of Heinsohn. "He's here every night, at every home game. He's rooting for us. He wants the best for our team. And he had some good advice for me. I'm going to take it and share that with my guys and figure some things out."

I know Rondo the player pretty well. As a Ray Allen fan I eagerly watched this team since 2007, even after Ray left. He will do what he wants and thinks is best. He's not a mean guy off the field I bet, so he says respectful things to Tommy, but he really don't give a crap, he will do his things on the court as he wants. No Big 3 anymore to take a backseat. It's his show.

  When people start assigning motives to players they generally go off the reservation. You've got zero evidence that Rondo's not doing what the coach wants him to.

I know you very well. You are the one guy on the site, who are making a sport about arguing. You always try get quibble things. And you are Rondo number one fan. So have a good time just not with me.

  And you seem to be one of the people in the thread that just don't like Rondo and criticize him for things that you rarely see happen in actual games. Case in point, the Celts take about 30% more shots in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock than the Spurs yet people are talking about how Parker always pushes the pace but Rondo "walks the ball up the court like an old man". Watch a game some time, pay attention to all the plays and not just a few, and watch what happens on both ends of the court. Or at least attempt to.

[greece66]

How exactly did we get from Tommy and RR to Kobe and "Byron Shaw"?
Can someone please draw a chart with the full ramifications? That would be awesome 

[Roy H.]

Rondo not following what the coach asks him to do would be a pretty big story, and something most of us would like to know about.  So if that is what you think, and you stand behind it, then give us some proof that is true. 

I don't think that there's any doubt that Rondo sometimes does his own thing.  Examples:

* Rondo skipped that trip to Sacramento last year without the team's permission
* There have been numerous reports of Rondo clashing with coaches at every level he's played
* Rondo hasn't always played the way his coaches preferred (remember Doc imploring him to attack the basket and get to the line more a couple of seasons ago)?

Does that mean he's consistently and blatantly ignoring his coaches?  No, I wouldn't say that at all.  However, he's also not a player that I think anybody would describe as easily coachable.  He's got a very sharp mind, and he's very stubborn.  Those two attributes have been big parts of his success, but they also lead to him clashing at times with those around him.

[BballTim]

Rondo is a stubborn, inflexible player.  When Tommy says something it should be considered.

Next game, Rondo still walks up with the ball in the 4th and Tommy starts going crazy again.

Tommy was not like this when the big three were here. He wasn't big on the team pushing the pace bc things worked and we were winning.  Right now , things are different. Rondo does not get it

Rondo should listen to a guy that has won more rings then he can ever dream of winning. 

Some fans here still back up Rondo vs a Legend.  really?   How many rings has he won as a player and coach combined?

So even though explicit Rondo quotes showing how (he appreciated Tommy's advice and how he was listening to it, and how he considered it good advice) you twist it into Rondo ignoring what Tommy says.  You completely missed the point on this whole conversation / thread.  It is really funny and yet completely predictable.

He is still going to slow the pace late in games.  Tommy has been saying to push the pace how many times now?   LOL. how many times does a legend have to tell you to try something, in order for you to do it?

You know he is still going to slow down the pace.

With this unit you need to increase the pace , especially late in games, you tire the other team out by having them chase after you.  Especially against old teams. We have the young legs to do it. We have guys like KO, Zeller that can finish in transition. Take advantage of this.

  So the reason we don't run all the time is because the other team's already back on defense, yet we're going to run faster when they're already back and somehow that will tire them out?