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Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2014, 06:54:42 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2014, 06:55:54 PM »

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"They're definitely bravely saying they won't trade him at this point," said one general manager, who nevertheless added, "I definitely think it's the right thing to trade him. I think Danny knows it."

I think Ainge is much less risk-averse than other GMs (which is a good thing), so I think he sometimes disagrees on what the right move is.  It sounds like a rival GM wants to trade for Rondo and using an anonymous quote to pressure Ainge to stop holding onto Rondo so tightly, but I think Ainge is less susceptible to fear of being thought a fool than other GMs are.
Actually I've reached the conclusion that Ainge is HIGHLY risk-averse. Other GMs would probably have pulled the trigger on any number of trades over the past few years, butAinge just keeps holding out for fear of losing an asset (Sullinger, Olynyk, Rondo) that will hurt in the long run. He wants to keep Rondo and continue building around him. Don't believe it?  I'm saying seeing is believing!

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2014, 07:00:01 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

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  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2014, 07:03:11 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 07:09:58 PM »

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"They're definitely bravely saying they won't trade him at this point," said one general manager, who nevertheless added, "I definitely think it's the right thing to trade him. I think Danny knows it."

I think Ainge is much less risk-averse than other GMs (which is a good thing), so I think he sometimes disagrees on what the right move is.  It sounds like a rival GM wants to trade for Rondo and using an anonymous quote to pressure Ainge to stop holding onto Rondo so tightly, but I think Ainge is less susceptible to fear of being thought a fool than other GMs are.
Actually I've reached the conclusion that Ainge is HIGHLY risk-averse. Other GMs would probably have pulled the trigger on any number of trades over the past few years, butAinge just keeps holding out for fear of losing an asset (Sullinger, Olynyk, Rondo) that will hurt in the long run. He wants to keep Rondo and continue building around him. Don't believe it?  I'm saying seeing is believing!

I dont think it's out of fear of losing an asset, he just doesnt make trades just to make trades.  Hes looking for high end players and for him to even be in the discussion for those kinds of players, his assets need to gain some value first.  For instance, a team like Minnesota really could care less about both Sullinger or KO this past off-season, thats mostly likely gonna change after this year.

He just strikes me as a guy who knows what he wants and has a plan to put himself in a position to get it.....and obviously keeps all that close to the vest.
Greg

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 07:12:01 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 07:15:09 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

the detriot rumor was after rondo's second season , when he was not close to the player is today.

So other than that, he has offered rondo for cp3,curry , and westbrook, all top 15 players. That should tell you what Ainge thinks about Rondo's value

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 07:18:28 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

the detriot rumor was after rondo's second season , when he was not close to the player is today.

So other than that, he has offered rondo for cp3,curry , and westbrook, all top 15 players. That should tell you what Ainge thinks about Rondo's value

No, it was after his 3rd season. After the 09 playoffs.

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Also, Curry was far from the player he currently is when the trade was proposed. The trade is laughable now.

Edit:

We forgot the Kings trade last season that was reportedly shot down by Rondo not wanting to re-sign in Sacramento. It was a package that included Thomas, McLemore, and picks. Makes sense considering how it was recently revealed that Ainge was the C's were the first team to contact Thomas when free agency started.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2014, 07:26:52 PM by Eddie20 »

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 07:23:59 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

the detriot rumor was after rondo's second season , when he was not close to the player is today.

So other than that, he has offered rondo for cp3,curry , and westbrook, all top 15 players. That should tell you what Ainge thinks about Rondo's value

No, it was after his 3rd season. After the 09 playoffs.

Also, Curry was far from the player he currently is when the trade was proposed. The trade is laughable now.
still, he hadn't made an all-star team yet , and is a 4 time all-star since then .

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 07:27:41 PM »

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



Quote
Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

the detriot rumor was after rondo's second season , when he was not close to the player is today.

So other than that, he has offered rondo for cp3,curry , and westbrook, all top 15 players. That should tell you what Ainge thinks about Rondo's value

No, it was after his 3rd season. After the 09 playoffs.

Also, Curry was far from the player he currently is when the trade was proposed. The trade is laughable now.
still, he hadn't made an all-star team yet , and is a 4 time all-star since then .

I added this after you posted..


We forgot the Kings trade last season that was reportedly shot down by Rondo not wanting to re-sign in Sacramento. It was a package that included Thomas, McLemore, and picks. Makes sense considering how it was recently revealed that Ainge was the C's were the first team to contact Thomas when free agency started.

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Source said Kings and C's discussed a deal involving Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and a pick for Rajon Rondo, but Rondo wasn't interested in re-signing with Sacramento and the Kings strongly value McLemore.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2014, 07:34:28 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

  In case you're missing this, you keep going into threads about Danny saying that he wants to keep Rondo telling everyone it's likely that Rondo will get traded, and you're telling people that *they're* in denial. Again, you have a real knack for unintentional comedy.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2014, 07:37:39 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

  "rumor" being the key term in this discussion.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2014, 07:38:24 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



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Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

  In case you're missing this, you keep going into threads about Danny saying that he wants to keep Rondo telling everyone it's likely that Rondo will get traded, and you're telling people that *they're* in denial. Again, you have a real knack for unintentional comedy.

You really believe what Ainge says?

It serves no purpose for either party (Rondo or Ainge) to say anything other than complimentary things. Doing anything other than that does nothing except cause you to lose leverage.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2014, 07:39:46 PM »

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I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

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    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.



Quote
Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

  "rumor" being the key term in this discussion.

It was Woj who reported it. See, that's the denial I was referring to.

Re: Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2014, 07:47:04 PM »

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That said, while a lot of people here are unlikely to believe Danny when he says Rondo isn't on the block, why are the same people so quick to believe what other GM's leak to the press?  They are all playing games to try to improve their position, all of them.

Confirmation bias.
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