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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2014, 11:23:02 AM »

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I dont mind him being big, if he can carry it without getting hurt.

Shaq carried his 300lb frame, so is Big Baby. If Sully can be inury free and still be able to move well, i dont care if he's as big as Mark Henry. But thats the sticking point. If he loses mobility or he gets injured a lot because of the heavy body, then its time to lose weight.

Shaq's not a fair example to bring into this -- Shaq was a force of nature (and was also relatively svelte in his time with Orlando)
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2014, 11:26:44 AM »

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When you make this much money to be a professional athlete, there is absolutely no excuse to look like a cream puff.

 I have the right to look like a cream puff sitting on my couch watching basketball. But when you're only job is to play basketball, STAY IN SHAPE. It really shouldn't be that difficult.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2014, 11:26:52 AM »

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I dont mind him being big, if he can carry it without getting hurt.

Shaq carried his 300lb frame, so is Big Baby. If Sully can be inury free and still be able to move well, i dont care if he's as big as Mark Henry. But thats the sticking point. If he loses mobility or he gets injured a lot because of the heavy body, then its time to lose weight.

It's a good thing that he's never had any back issues, or the extra weight could be a real problem.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2014, 11:28:00 AM »

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I dont mind him being big, if he can carry it without getting hurt.

Shaq carried his 300lb frame, so is Big Baby. If Sully can be inury free and still be able to move well, i dont care if he's as big as Mark Henry. But thats the sticking point. If he loses mobility or he gets injured a lot because of the heavy body, then its time to lose weight.

Shaq's not a fair example to bring into this -- Shaq was a force of nature (and was also relatively svelte in his time with Orlando)

Shaq's game was based on power, weight (more specifically muscle) was needed.
Jared's game is about 10 feet from the basket and jumpshots. Not to mention, he's not 7ft tall shaq.

As for Big Baby Davis, he's a bench player. That wasnt my expectation for Sully, but maybe it should be..
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2014, 11:38:42 AM »

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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2014, 11:39:19 AM »

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I'm sad. Sully's got a gut like pooh bear in this vid. There's no denying it.

The Glen Davis comps are unfair to Glen. He never got a lot of vertical out of it, but he got himself in the best shape of his life in his mid-twenties.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2014, 11:39:42 AM »

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I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2014, 11:40:53 AM »

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My guess is that Sully has been doing more strength and a little less conditioning. Probably didn't even start conditioning training until a few weeks ago to let his ankle completely heal. I am a little disappointed, but I won't judge until training camp starts. I am happy he is getting stronger, but now he also has to get leaner. Still has another two and a half months or so until training camp, so there is still time for him to drop a good 20-30 pounds from where he is at now.

Also, cardio is the easiest to work on during the regular season. Lots of players use a bike during games, and before and after games to keep them in top shape (Humphrey's did this). There is no reason for Sully to not be working on reducing his size even during the season as well.

Though, while I can only reserve judgement for now, I will be p---ed if he shows up heavy after a full mostly healthy offseason to work on himself.
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2014, 11:44:13 AM »

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A dude his size can still cut a couple pounds a week until the season starts. I hope this video marks him going back to the gym to get to work on conditioning.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2014, 11:54:16 AM »

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I think it's overly optimistic to think Sully is bulking up now to cut weight later.  I know that's a technique used by body builders, but Sully is a basketball player with back issues and a lifetime of weight problems.  The fact that he's gained so much weight since entering the league already by the age of 22 is a real concern.  He's already had three months to get in better shape since the season ended and it appears he has gone the other way.  I hope the Celtics management is addressing this with him.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2014, 11:58:02 AM »

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He is too young to find himself over weight as a professional athlete .  If he was 35 ....he'll really find out how tuff keeping the pounds are , when your metabolism is slowing big time.

Since he doesn't have self control at mealtime and self motivation to get to sleep early and train hard ......he should get a trainer to look after him......everyday ......like a drill Sargent to stay on his rear to train, eat and get proper rest.

Most of us have to work everyday and still do all the above to keep from being one of modern age norm of obese Americans walking the streets.

Come on Sully

Smarten up.

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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2014, 11:59:01 AM »

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My guess is that Sully has been doing more strength and a little less conditioning. Probably didn't even start conditioning training until a few weeks ago to let his ankle completely heal. I am a little disappointed, but I won't judge until training camp starts. I am happy he is getting stronger, but now he also has to get leaner. Still has another two and a half months or so until training camp, so there is still time for him to drop a good 20-30 pounds from where he is at now.

Also, cardio is the easiest to work on during the regular season. Lots of players use a bike during games, and before and after games to keep them in top shape (Humphrey's did this). There is no reason for Sully to not be working on reducing his size even during the season as well.

Though, while I can only reserve judgement for now, I will be p---ed if he shows up heavy after a full mostly healthy offseason to work on himself.
And this is all completely irrelevant. If you can't lose weight, this means you've not been eating properly, given your workout regimen.

I don't really care about injuries and excuses. NBA players have to recover from various nicks and dents every summer. If he can't figure out how to eat in that process so that he doesn't turn into a plodding ball of lard, I'd rather move him before he ate himself out of his trade value.

Also, the limit of healthy weight loss is ~ 1-2 lbs. a week. He barely has time to lose perhaps 20 lbs at this point -- at that's a best case scenario.
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2014, 12:07:38 PM »

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I dont mind him being big, if he can carry it without getting hurt.

Shaq carried his 300lb frame, so is Big Baby. If Sully can be inury free and still be able to move well, i dont care if he's as big as Mark Henry. But thats the sticking point. If he loses mobility or he gets injured a lot because of the heavy body, then its time to lose weight.
Um, Shaq was only half a foot taller.

And have you seen Big Baby's calves? They're the size of a regular person's thigh. That's why I was never worried about Big Baby's weight.

Unlike Big Baby, however, Sullinger, looks like he's sporting a considerable muffin top. There's absolutely no justification for this, whether the team may expect him to play center or not.

It's such a shame, on these HS highlights he moves like Paul Pierce.
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2014, 12:08:03 PM »

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I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.

So why isnt KO doing the same thing??

Building endurance/stamina with bulking up is the best way to go imo. Sully is not a bodybuilder.

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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2014, 12:09:44 PM »

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