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[chambers]

I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.

So why isnt KO doing the same thing??

Building endurance/stamina with bulking up is the best way to go imo. Sully is not a bodybuilder.

When did KO hurt his back?
Bulking and core strengthening is different to getting beach arms and a chiseled torso.
Part of strengthening his back entails putting on muscle mass around the base of the spine. He's essentially trying to replace the fat with muscle so his back can support his frame.
Step one: surgery
Step two: in season recovery flexibility
Step three: core strengthening in off season.
Step four: turn base muscle into tuned, stronger weapon
Step five: complete fat burn/ trim excess fat from bulk stage for lean physique.

He's had a back problem for 5 years and this is the first offseason he's had in the NBA to hit stage three after the surgery.

[j804]

Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.

[kozlodoev]

Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.

We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.

[Waew]

[clover]

I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.

So why isnt KO doing the same thing??

Building endurance/stamina with bulking up is the best way to go imo. Sully is not a bodybuilder.

When did KO hurt his back?
Bulking and core strengthening is different to getting beach arms and a chiseled torso.
Part of strengthening his back entails putting on muscle mass around the base of the spine. He's essentially trying to replace the fat with muscle so his back can support his frame.
Step one: surgery
Step two: in season recovery flexibility
Step three: core strengthening in off season.
Step four: turn base muscle into tuned, stronger weapon
Step five: complete fat burn/ trim excess fat from bulk stage for lean physique.

He's had a back problem for 5 years and this is the first offseason he's had in the NBA to hit stage three after the surgery.

I'm completely missing why steps three-five are sequential processes.

[Celtics4ever]

Sully needs to get stronger, his combine number was pathetic for a PF in the press.   He would be well served to lose about 10% of his bodyfat and replace it with lean muscle.   Also, quit shooting the three.   He is a back to the basket post up player of some skill.  Work on both hands and play to his strengths and not his weakness (long range shooting).  Improving his diet would help him a lot.   Low carb maybe with lean meats. Sully still looks pudgy.

KO needs to get strength as well.   He should work on strength, quickness & power and his shot.  He did look a little leaner in SL. 

Guys your only as strong as your core.   One weak link in the chain and it's injury time or inefficient muscle chain.  at the NBA combine, Oly had 5 reps of 185 and Sully had 9 reps of 185.    Both these guys weight more than 185.  One has to wonder if they can only do a handful of pushups which is pathetic.  Smart did 185 19 times this year.  Smart is a good athlete and Sully and Oly are basketball players.

Being in top shape helps every player.   I think Sully deserves some scrunity.  Talk is cheap.   He is a decent player ( alside from his shooting)and being in shape will only help him get to those boards or beat his man, etc.

It is the workout tape with the lady then that one was a joke.   There are weekend warriors who work out harder.

Sullinger and Oly were some of the worse guys in their drafts athletic.   Classic Ainge flawed guys who can play.

[knuckleballer]

I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.

So why isnt KO doing the same thing??

Building endurance/stamina with bulking up is the best way to go imo. Sully is not a bodybuilder.

When did KO hurt his back?
Bulking and core strengthening is different to getting beach arms and a chiseled torso.
Part of strengthening his back entails putting on muscle mass around the base of the spine. He's essentially trying to replace the fat with muscle so his back can support his frame.
Step one: surgery
Step two: in season recovery flexibility
Step three: core strengthening in off season.
Step four: turn base muscle into tuned, stronger weapon
Step five: complete fat burn/ trim excess fat from bulk stage for lean physique.

He's had a back problem for 5 years and this is the first offseason he's had in the NBA to hit stage three after the surgery.

I'm completely missing why steps three-five are sequential processes.

Sully's back injury was diagnosed two years ago during pre draft physicals.  He didnt experience any problems until 1 1/2 years ago.  He has not had back problems for five years.

He's not a middle aged man struggling with mobility after back surgery.  He played a full NBA season nine months after surgery.  So I don't think this five step process applies to him.  There is no reason why he couldn't lose weight while building his core and other muscles.  Weight loss is probably the best approach to helping with his back.

I've made excuses for him up until this offseason because of his back problem, but his mission was to lean up this offseason and after three months he appears to be fatter.  That speaks to his work ethic, willpower, and future in basketball.  I hope he can turn it around, but I'm becoming skeptical.

[j804]

Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.

We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.

you mean where he's talking to that older man/coach or whatever he doesnt look THAT big to me we'll see though. its always hard to judge remember Baby looking ripped just about every offseason? lol

[Jailan34]

Sully needs to get stronger, his combine number was pathetic for a PF in the press.   He would be well served to lose about 10% of his bodyfat and replace it with lean muscle.   Also, quit shooting the three.   He is a back to the basket post up player of some skill.  Work on both hands and play to his strengths and not his weakness (long range shooting).  Improving his diet would help him a lot.   Low carb maybe with lean meats. Sully still looks pudgy.

KO needs to get strength as well.   He should work on strength, quickness & power and his shot.  He did look a little leaner in SL. 

Guys your only as strong as your core.   One weak link in the chain and it's injury time or inefficient muscle chain.  at the NBA combine, Oly had 5 reps of 185 and Sully had 9 reps of 185.    Both these guys weight more than 185.  One has to wonder if they can only do a handful of pushups which is pathetic.  Smart did 185 19 times this year.  Smart is a good athlete and Sully and Oly are basketball players.

Being in top shape helps every player.   I think Sully deserves some scrunity.  Talk is cheap.   He is a decent player ( alside from his shooting)and being in shape will only help him get to those boards or beat his man, etc.

It is the workout tape with the lady then that one was a joke.   There are weekend warriors who work out harder.

Sullinger and Oly were some of the worse guys in their drafts athletic.   Classic Ainge flawed guys who can play.

KO is showing the effort to improve his body though, even if he is never going to be some big strong bruiser he looks like he spent a good amount of time in the gym. Sully on the other hand..

[Kuberski33]

I'm not exactly on the Sully bandwagon and question whether he'll ever be part of the long term answer here but....I would hold off on jumping to any conclusions about his weight till training camp starts.

[Tr1boy]

I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.

So why isnt KO doing the same thing??

Building endurance/stamina with bulking up is the best way to go imo. Sully is not a bodybuilder.

When did KO hurt his back?
Bulking and core strengthening is different to getting beach arms and a chiseled torso.
Part of strengthening his back entails putting on muscle mass around the base of the spine. He's essentially trying to replace the fat with muscle so his back can support his frame.
Step one: surgery
Step two: in season recovery flexibility
Step three: core strengthening in off season.
Step four: turn base muscle into tuned, stronger weapon
Step five: complete fat burn/ trim excess fat from bulk stage for lean physique.

He's had a back problem for 5 years and this is the first offseason he's had in the NBA to hit stage three after the surgery.

I'm completely missing why steps three-five are sequential processes.

Sully's back injury was diagnosed two years ago during pre draft physicals.  He didnt experience any problems until 1 1/2 years ago.  He has not had back problems for five years.

He's not a middle aged man struggling with mobility after back surgery.  He played a full NBA season nine months after surgery.  So I don't think this five step process applies to him.  There is no reason why he couldn't lose weight while building his core and other muscles.  Weight loss is probably the best approach to helping with his back.

I've made excuses for him up until this offseason because of his back problem, but his mission was to lean up this offseason and after three months he appears to be fatter.  That speaks to his work ethic, willpower, and future in basketball.  I hope he can turn it around, but I'm becoming skeptical.

Exactly. And more weight = worse for the back.  Come on chambers

Like I said he is not a bodybuilder but an athlete.  You cant just build your stamina/endurance just like that. You need to work on it from day 1.

[kozlodoev]

Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.

We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.

you mean where he's talking to that older man/coach or whatever he doesnt look THAT big to me we'll see though. its always hard to judge remember Baby looking ripped just about every offseason? lol

Yes, at about 0:55.

Perhaps it's just an optical illusion. But based on the rest of the video, he's got about zero lift and zero quickness.

[knuckleballer]

Sully needs to get stronger, his combine number was pathetic for a PF in the press.   He would be well served to lose about 10% of his bodyfat and replace it with lean muscle.   Also, quit shooting the three.   He is a back to the basket post up player of some skill.  Work on both hands and play to his strengths and not his weakness (long range shooting).  Improving his diet would help him a lot.   Low carb maybe with lean meats. Sully still looks pudgy.

KO needs to get strength as well.   He should work on strength, quickness & power and his shot.  He did look a little leaner in SL. 

Guys your only as strong as your core.   One weak link in the chain and it's injury time or inefficient muscle chain.  at the NBA combine, Oly had 5 reps of 185 and Sully had 9 reps of 185.    Both these guys weight more than 185.  One has to wonder if they can only do a handful of pushups which is pathetic.  Smart did 185 19 times this year.  Smart is a good athlete and Sully and Oly are basketball players.

Being in top shape helps every player.   I think Sully deserves some scrunity.  Talk is cheap.   He is a decent player ( alside from his shooting)and being in shape will only help him get to those boards or beat his man, etc.

It is the workout tape with the lady then that one was a joke.   There are weekend warriors who work out harder.

Sullinger and Oly were some of the worse guys in their drafts athletic.   Classic Ainge flawed guys who can play.

KO was a scrawny wing player through his sophomore season.  After that season, the Gonzaga coaching staff convinced him to red shirt a season and redefine his game and body and KO has done exactly that.  He has steadily done that ever since.  His reps on the bench were below what they should be, but he had gained a lot of muscle in two years and appears to still be adding muscle while getting leaner.  I give him a lot of credit for that.

Sully on the other hand could learn a lot from KO.  Sully has always been a beefy big whose game is largely based on his strength.  The fact he could only do 9 reps showed he didn't have a good work ethic then and his weight gain shows he doesn't have a good work ethic now.  He needs to gt his act together and take his career more seriously or he will become the next Michael Sweetney.

[Evantime34]

I think he still has time to lose weight, but if he doesn't go on a diet before the start of the season, he isn't going to get better.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I dont mind him being big, if he can carry it without getting hurt.

Shaq carried his 300lb frame, so is Big Baby. If Sully can be inury free and still be able to move well, i dont care if he's as big as Mark Henry. But thats the sticking point. If he loses mobility or he gets injured a lot because of the heavy body, then its time to lose weight.

Um, Shaq was only half a foot taller.

And have you seen Big Baby's calves? They're the size of a regular person's thigh. That's why I was never worried about Big Baby's weight.

Unlike Big Baby, however, Sullinger, looks like he's sporting a considerable muffin top. There's absolutely no justification for this, whether the team may expect him to play center or not.

It's such a shame, on these HS highlights he moves like Paul Pierce.

Like i said. I dont care if Sully's calves will be as big as a holiday ham ornhebhas a muffin top. As long as he's still mobile as he was when hes healthy and does not get injured a lot, he can be 400 lbs and it wouldnt matter.

Of course losing weight helps, but as long as it doesnt hurt hia production on the court and he stays on the court, let him eat all the cheeseburgers.