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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2014, 02:02:00 PM »

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Disappointed in him but if he wants to throw his promising carer away, that's on him. His weight problems scared me even 2 years ago when we drafted him. Part of the reason I don't want Jahlil okafor next year

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2014, 02:05:10 PM »

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Bryan Doo doooooo your dam job. Sully if your worried about your ankle, then swim. I would take Terrence Jones over him. How can he be more explosive in hs and be a pro player ?


Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2014, 02:06:52 PM »

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Big baby was bigger than Sully but at least baby had decent muscle definition

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2014, 02:08:15 PM »

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I don't see what the commotion is about. It's the first off season he's had in his career without any rehab or surgery.
Like most NBA big men in the offseason he's put on some weight- maybe 20 pounds?
I could see him losing double that quite quickly.

He's probably bulking and doing deadlifts/squats to strengthen his back/core before some stage of a cut. The best way to prevent recurring back injury is to lift weights while increasing flexibility.

No big fat deal here at all. In all seriousness it's a bit ridiculous to me how outraged some people are lol.

So why isnt KO doing the same thing??

Building endurance/stamina with bulking up is the best way to go imo. Sully is not a bodybuilder.

When did KO hurt his back?
Bulking and core strengthening is different to getting beach arms and a chiseled torso.
Part of strengthening his back entails putting on muscle mass around the base of the spine. He's essentially trying to replace the fat with muscle so his back can support his frame.
Step one: surgery
Step two: in season recovery flexibility
Step three: core strengthening in off season.
Step four: turn base muscle into tuned, stronger weapon
Step five: complete fat burn/ trim excess fat from bulk stage for lean physique.

He's had a back problem for 5 years and this is the first offseason he's had in the NBA to hit stage three after the surgery.

If you had ever worked with a PT or AT you would know that those steps are a farce.  As soon as Sully was diagnosed with his back problem (Ohio St. sophomore season) he would have been advised to work on his core and shed unnecessary weight.  He clearly didn't take that advice seriously even stating in post draft interviews that his back was fine.  Upon seriously injuring it mid-season the advice would have been similar.  You are going to be off your feet so dietary restrictions will be important to monitor.  This BS about him bulking up as a way to build solid mass is ridiculous and against the teachings of every trainer I worked with from University of Florida to UNE.  Diet is part of every component. Period.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2014, 02:38:47 PM »

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Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.
We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.
If he's lost visceral fat from his core, his muffin top is a good sign. That's just sub-culturious fat, the last to come off. If he is building muscle and working on his conditioning he is going to go through a flabby phase, a long discouraging phase where he will look worse than he did when he was carrying more internal fat.

This is my optimistic hope for what we are seeing.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2014, 02:47:25 PM »

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My take on the weight issue, is that his weight is what is preventing him from becoming a good starter instead of a good bench role player.

If his weight is better, and he can play 36 minutes per night and move well enough to play solid team defense, we would have ourselves a nice sub all star, and next summer he would be worth at least 12 million per year in an extension.

But if he cant lose the weight and remains a nice bench scorer, who is an injury risk with the weight he wont be worth more than the MLE.

This coming year is his proving ground for a contract extension. If getting better, and money doesn't motivate him, nothing will.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2014, 02:49:05 PM »

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Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.
We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.
If he's lost visceral fat from his core, his muffin top is a good sign. That's just sub-culturious fat, the last to come off. If he is building muscle and working on his conditioning he is going to go through a flabby phase, a long discouraging phase where he will look worse than he did when he was carrying more internal fat.

This is my optimistic hope for what we are seeing.

He does look a little better than he did at the end of the season. But he is still way too jiggly in the upper torso area as well....

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2014, 02:52:10 PM »

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Sully,

Leave the buffet lines  for Big  Baby



Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2014, 02:53:13 PM »

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Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.
We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.
If he's lost visceral fat from his core, his muffin top is a good sign. That's just sub-culturious fat, the last to come off. If he is building muscle and working on his conditioning he is going to go through a flabby phase, a long discouraging phase where he will look worse than he did when he was carrying more internal fat.

This is my optimistic hope for what we are seeing.

He does look a little better than he did at the end of the season. But he is still way too jiggly in the upper torso area as well....
is his ass just naturally huge?

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2014, 03:01:45 PM »

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Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.
We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.
If he's lost visceral fat from his core, his muffin top is a good sign. That's just sub-culturious fat, the last to come off. If he is building muscle and working on his conditioning he is going to go through a flabby phase, a long discouraging phase where he will look worse than he did when he was carrying more internal fat.

This is my optimistic hope for what we are seeing.

He does look a little better than he did at the end of the season. But he is still way too jiggly in the upper torso area as well....
is his ass just naturally huge?
did Perk look worse, before he got "D-Howarded", i don't think so.
all you can do is shake your head in disappointment when you see young guns throwing their bright future because they can't keep them selves away from McDonalds.
It's still a long way till the training camp begins, with hard work, he could get stronger and slimer. I love Sully, and think he is a big part of what the Celtics are trying to do.
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2014, 03:08:49 PM »

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Wow...wish I didn't see that.  He has clearly gained weight.  Going home to his family that only knows one way of eating is a huge mistake.  He needed a total change of off-season venue and routine.  Sad, and frankly, gross for a professional athlete to act this way. 

This is bigger (no pun intended) that the draft, trades, etc...  Sully is our other major talent besides Rondo on the roster and now it's pretty clear where he's headed.  A streamlined Sully would have been a HUGE (again, pun dodging) upgrade and development for this team.

If someone tells me that this was last year and not this year it would be a huge mood upgrade for me right now.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2014, 03:13:09 PM »

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Dang, that boy fat.
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Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2014, 03:14:42 PM »

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I don't get it.... He looks the same to me.

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2014, 03:17:17 PM »

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He is a big dude, and going to have to battle weight probably his whole life...but large percent of Americans seem to be in the same boat.

He is just too young to throw his life away

High basketball IQ

Low common sense IQ

He really needs guidance from some source

Re: Sully..the round mound of?
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2014, 03:20:04 PM »

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Are we seeing the same video? He does not look that big to me, compared to the last workout video he filmed for celtics.com he's actually lost weight and he'll most likely lose more as the season approaches.
We're looking at exactly the same video. Roll forward towards the end with the full shot of him walking towards the camera, and observe the glorious muffin top shaking through his wet jersey.
If he's lost visceral fat from his core, his muffin top is a good sign. That's just sub-culturious fat, the last to come off. If he is building muscle and working on his conditioning he is going to go through a flabby phase, a long discouraging phase where he will look worse than he did when he was carrying more internal fat.

This is my optimistic hope for what we are seeing.

He does look a little better than he did at the end of the season. But he is still way too jiggly in the upper torso area as well....
is his ass just naturally huge?

A big rump is a powerful tool for boxing out, creating space and getting rebounds.

He doesn't have to lose all that bulk. He just needs to cut 20 lbs of fat, get his conditioning up so he can play 36 minutes per game.