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Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2014, 11:40:40 AM »

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Rondo to Indiana
Stephenson to Phx
Dragic and a pick to boston

I'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.
But still less the full value for rondo.

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2014, 11:41:04 AM »

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Len, copeland, hill and 2 or 3 firsts might tickle some interest though

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2014, 11:41:30 AM »

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My guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target).  Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.

Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got  shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his game

Hibbert's 27, he should be just entering his prime.  He just had a huge slump late season that seemed as much mental as anything else.

OH snap he's only 27? I might consider giving up Rondo for him at this point.

I deffinetely agree with you, Roy's slump was deffinetely a mental problem that he made seem his team wasn't helping out with

Hibbert quote "Not getting the looks i want on the offensive end. For now, Ill just worry about winning Defensive player of the year"

I don't see why Indiana would trade Hibbert.  He slumped at the wrong time.  He was great in the playoffs the previous couple of playoffs and it's extremely difficult to find a good center.

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2014, 11:42:37 AM »

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Then what for the celts? Stephenson?? I dont want that clown in my team
I agree..Hibbert and George are only 2 players I want off Pacers and we all know they not trading George..
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Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2014, 11:43:57 AM »

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Give us eric bledsoe and either Tyler ennis or miles plumlee

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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2014, 11:44:49 AM »

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Rondo to Indiana
Stephenson to Phx
Dragic and a pick to boston

I'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.
But still less the full value for rondo.

Maybe, but do we really need yet another pick?  I'd hope for at least a little on top of that.

You don't suppose...could this mean...the return of Gerald Green?!?!?!

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2014, 11:44:56 AM »

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My guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target).  Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.

Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got  shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his game

Hibbert's 27, he should be just entering his prime.  He just had a huge slump late season that seemed as much mental as anything else.

OH snap he's only 27? I might consider giving up Rondo for him at this point.

I deffinetely agree with you, Roy's slump was deffinetely a mental problem that he made seem his team wasn't helping out with

Hibbert quote "Not getting the looks i want on the offensive end. For now, Ill just worry about winning Defensive player of the year"

Well, it's hard to have a lot of confidence in a guy offensively when he's shot 44% from the field the past two seasons.  And, it's not his teammates fault that Hibbert averaged 5.5 rebounds in the playoff, including games where he could corral a single board.

A center who is bad offensively, decent on the boards, mentally fragile, and on a big contract are not the players you trade your best player for.  If we wanted Hibbert's skill set, we would have traded for Asik.


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Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2014, 11:45:27 AM »

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Rondo to Indiana
Stephenson to Phx
Dragic and a pick to boston

I'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.
But still less the full value for rondo.

The problem with this deal (as well as one I proposed) is why is Phoenix trading for Lance, when they can just sign him outright?  They need to be getting something that sweetens the pot for helping Indy get Rondo, and we need to get full value for Rondo at the same time.  Tough to see a deal working.

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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2014, 11:45:42 AM »

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Len, Hibbert and TJ Warren for me.

Liked Stephenson as vastly undervalued draft pick. Not so much as a big $$$ head case.

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2014, 11:46:42 AM »

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Rondo to Indiana
Stephenson to Phx
Dragic and a pick to boston

I'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.
But still less the full value for rondo.
That is a reasonable offer for all involved. I wouldn't do it but it's a reasonable offer.

I think Rondo just has much more draw to potential FAs than a Dragic, Bledsoe or Stephenson. Trading Rondo's star power for up and comer star will make it much harder for a quick turnaround (by attracting star to Boston via trade or FA).

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« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2014, 11:47:10 AM »

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Everyone in this thread is talking about getting Hibbert, Lance, Bledsoe when it's much more likely we get a combination of a few picks and a young player like Warren, Ennis (please no), Len...

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2014, 11:47:41 AM »

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Len, Hibbert and TJ Warren for me.

Liked Stephenson as vastly undervalued draft pick. Not so much as a big $$$ head case.
have you seen lens numbers? Huge bust. Danny tried to get Bledsoe before, I see Danny finally trying to get him.  Also why would pheonix need Bledsoe of rondo plays 90% of pg minutes

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2014, 11:48:15 AM »

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Then what for the celts? Stephenson?? I dont want that clown in my team
I agree..Hibbert and George are only 2 players I want off Pacers and we all know they not trading George..

Definitely agree.  I'd take  Hibbert or dragic  at this moment if trading Rondo is a must.  I definitely dont want shorty from the kings (Thomas).. Dont see that man as any piece of the future. I want starting caliber player for Rondo, not no great bench player. for that i'll call up my boy ODOM!! (yes I  know hes on the knicks)

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« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2014, 11:49:00 AM »

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Rondo to Indiana
Stephenson to Phx
Dragic and a pick to boston

I'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.
But still less the full value for rondo.

The problem with this deal (as well as one I proposed) is why is Phoenix trading for Lance, when they can just sign him outright?  They need to be getting something that sweetens the pot for helping Indy get Rondo, and we need to get full value for Rondo at the same time.  Tough to see a deal working.

It's possible they want to use that space for someone else, probably a decent center.  But yeah, it doesn't quite add up.

Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2014, 11:49:22 AM »

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Rondo to Indiana
Stephenson to Phx
Dragic and a pick to boston

I'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.
But still less the full value for rondo.
That is a reasonable offer for all involved. I wouldn't do it but it's a reasonable offer.

I think Rondo just has much more draw to potential FAs than a Dragic, Bledsoe or Stephenson. Trading Rondo's star power for up and comer star will make it much harder for a quick turnaround (by attracting star to Boston via trade or FA).
that is an invalid trade. Indy wants dragic not rondo.