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Quote from: foulweatherfan on July 03, 2014, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: CelticsFanFromNYC on July 03, 2014, 11:33:45 AMQuote from: Roy H. on July 03, 2014, 11:28:10 AMMy guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target). Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his gameHibbert's 27, he should be just entering his prime. He just had a huge slump late season that seemed as much mental as anything else.OH snap he's only 27? I might consider giving up Rondo for him at this point.I deffinetely agree with you, Roy's slump was deffinetely a mental problem that he made seem his team wasn't helping out withHibbert quote "Not getting the looks i want on the offensive end. For now, Ill just worry about winning Defensive player of the year"
Quote from: CelticsFanFromNYC on July 03, 2014, 11:33:45 AMQuote from: Roy H. on July 03, 2014, 11:28:10 AMMy guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target). Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his gameHibbert's 27, he should be just entering his prime. He just had a huge slump late season that seemed as much mental as anything else.
Quote from: Roy H. on July 03, 2014, 11:28:10 AMMy guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target). Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his game
My guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target). Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.
Then what for the celts? Stephenson?? I dont want that clown in my team
Rondo to IndianaStephenson to PhxDragic and a pick to bostonI'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.But still less the full value for rondo.
Len, Hibbert and TJ Warren for me.Liked Stephenson as vastly undervalued draft pick. Not so much as a big $$$ head case.
Quote from: triboy16f on July 03, 2014, 11:40:14 AMThen what for the celts? Stephenson?? I dont want that clown in my teamI agree..Hibbert and George are only 2 players I want off Pacers and we all know they not trading George..
Quote from: arctic 3.0 on July 03, 2014, 11:40:40 AMRondo to IndianaStephenson to PhxDragic and a pick to bostonI'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.But still less the full value for rondo.The problem with this deal (as well as one I proposed) is why is Phoenix trading for Lance, when they can just sign him outright? They need to be getting something that sweetens the pot for helping Indy get Rondo, and we need to get full value for Rondo at the same time. Tough to see a deal working.
Quote from: arctic 3.0 on July 03, 2014, 11:40:40 AMRondo to IndianaStephenson to PhxDragic and a pick to bostonI'd be ok with this as it's better return then the rumored sac deal.But still less the full value for rondo.That is a reasonable offer for all involved. I wouldn't do it but it's a reasonable offer.I think Rondo just has much more draw to potential FAs than a Dragic, Bledsoe or Stephenson. Trading Rondo's star power for up and comer star will make it much harder for a quick turnaround (by attracting star to Boston via trade or FA).