Celts want smart and rondo to work but imo it wont

[BudweiserCeltic]

It'll work.

There, short and sweet.

It will if rondo respects smarts capabilities.  Rondo has to get back to doing other things on the court other than boss everyone else around. 

It works fine enough with Bradley, and Smart can do pretty much all Bradley can and then some. So you're exaggerating the problem.

Bradley can't dribble but can catch-and-shoot. Smart can dribble but can't shoot. The two players have very little in common.

You forget how terrible Bradley was shooting for us, yet it worked... in part as being a very good slasher, and provided excellent defense (he improved later on).

I have no doubt that Smart will show he can shoot better, than he has shown, playing off ball with Rondo... but with the added advantage of him being able to handle the ball himself, and allowing Rondo himself to play a bit off ball, something I've been calling for. Plus, the defense will be there.

So I think the lack of shooting as a problem is not much of an issue in my opinion.

[SHAQATTACK]

I'm a bit skeptical from the

Whose the BOSS  perspective

Nothing wrong with two strong leader types on court together ....except they play get same position .

If one was a five or four it would be better.


I really think Smart is the safety net , should Rondo want to leave ,  which I think if DA doesn't trade him first ....he will leave ......

I think not getting Love just pretty much killed the keep Rondo plan ....which will lead to a like five year rebuild with no star to get other stars.  It's the hard way to rebuild though the draft with no star players

[Chris22]

Rondo will be gone by the trade deadline.

Nothing to worry about.

[ticket18]

Rondo will be gone by the trade deadline.

Nothing to worry about.

TP. This

[LooseCannon]

I think you need to consider that the plan A for Marcus Smart is to become the perfect version of Avery Bradley that Danny always wanted.

I think plan A for Marcus Smart is for him to be the combo guard that Ainge wanted and that Avery Bradley can never be because he can't play PG.

[Tr1boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsbrPWk4Sg

With rondo barking for the ball after a defensive  rebound will smart get a chance to make passes like this?

[BballTim]

You say it won't work...Danny says it will...who to believe...who to believe.

Besides, he's still a kid who has a lot to learn...who better to learn it from than Rondo?

Rak

Rondo is the last guy i want Smart to learn things from.  A guy that bosses people around, pads his stats , misses flights etc.

  Yes, the last thing we'd want Smart to be is a player who puts up decent stats and is an on the court leader. Hopefully he'll do what you want Rondo to do, keep quiet on the court and touch the ball as little as possible.

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I think you need to consider that the plan A for Marcus Smart is to become the perfect version of Avery Bradley that Danny always wanted.

He's freakishly similar to Dywane Wade physically and skill wise, and Dywane Wade fit perfectly with Jason Williams when the Heat won the championship in 2006.

If Rondo and Avery and can work, then Smart and Rondo can work.
My guess is that Danny's two plans are:

Plan A :

Rondo starts at PG.
Smart starts at SG and works on his shooting.
Try and get Smart up to something like 35% from three and a more reliable jumpshot- but the focus is to get Smart the ball in the paint and around the basket so he can get to the free throw line..ala Dywane Wade.

When Rondo rests, let Smart play PG and see how he does at the NBA level. Remember he's only played strict point guard for one season, in his second year of college.

Rondo is perfect for finding a guy like Smart slashing and cutting to the basket, just like he did with Avery Bradley, he'll be perfect for finding Smart and Young coming off screens and getting them the ball in the right place for the best shot.

The reason this back court can possibly work out well is because they are both aggressive bulls who want to win. Smart, like Rondo, can guard most NBA shooting guards because of his wingspan and strength.


Plan B:

Smart gets given a season to see if he can play shooting guard and replace Avery Bradley long term at SG. If he looks terrible at SG, but he looks good at PG then it's more incentive to not over pay Rondo in free agency and let Smart rule the roost.

I think that Danny and Brad Stevens like the idea of putting Smart in a disciplined motion offense system so he is forced to take the shots that the offense gives him- the same way that the Pacers force Lance Stephenson to go through their offense.
They let him go wild sometimes when they need a spark, but particularly in his first year or two he'll need some structure and Rondo is the PERFECT guy to make sure he understands how an offense works at both PG, while Smart learns SG.

Rondo is only ball dominant in the sense that he facilitates the offense- because no one else can. Pierce could run it well, but Avery was hopeless. He's never had a decent backup point guard in all his time here other than Dooling and Eddie House. He's not like Tony Parker who's had Ginobli, Patty Mills, George Hill, Bruce Bowen etc. who can all run an offense very well.

Even more importantly, he has only run Doc's offense with good players- and he did it very well. Stevens will encourage a multiple guard set up like Butler or San Antonio and Rondo has two nice pieces in Smart and Young to work with on the perimeter.

You've got arguably the best passing point guard in the world- Rondo, and a beast of a combo guard in Smart who will attack the basket and work on his shot. They'll probably try and make it work, and Stevens must think it can possibly work because he's had a huge say in these picks working with Rondo.

what a great well thought out post.  TP!

[bknova]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsbrPWk4Sg

With rondo barking for the ball after a defensive  rebound will smart get a chance to make passes like this?

Terrible example. Thats not a point guard pass.  Thats an outlet pass.
Much like Olynyk and Sullinger, passing is a compliment to his game, not a primary strength. He absolutely can play next to Rondo, and is an ideal 2 guard in a Brad Stevens system.

[clover]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

[Tr1boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsbrPWk4Sg

With rondo barking for the ball after a defensive  rebound will smart get a chance to make passes like this?

Terrible example. Thats not a point guard pass.  Thats an outlet pass.
Much like Olynyk and Sullinger, passing is a compliment to his game, not a primary strength. He absolutely can play next to Rondo, and is an ideal 2 guard in a Brad Stevens system.

How can anybody else make an outlet pass when rondo wants the ball right away?? He doesnt even make outlet passes himself these days.

[BudweiserCeltic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsbrPWk4Sg

With rondo barking for the ball after a defensive  rebound will smart get a chance to make passes like this?

Terrible example. Thats not a point guard pass.  Thats an outlet pass.
Much like Olynyk and Sullinger, passing is a compliment to his game, not a primary strength. He absolutely can play next to Rondo, and is an ideal 2 guard in a Brad Stevens system.

How can anybody else make an outlet pass when rondo wants the ball right away?? He doesnt even make outlet passes himself these days.

You're complaining about something that practically EVERY point guard does. That's why they're the PGs, they should look for the ball when a rebound is had. It's up to the rebounder to consider other outlet opportunities if they're there.

[Celtics4ever]

Rondo will be gone by the trade deadline.

Like people thought he'd be gone last night?   Guy has more staying power than a cock-roach.

[BballTim]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

[ticket18]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.