Warriors Deal for Love Dead?

[jambr380]

I still feel like like Danny is going to try and swoop in last minute with a solid offer. he really hasnt made a serious offer yet. I mean our 6th, 17th, olynyk and next years first isnt much right now.

sullinger still hasnt entered the equation, the brooklyn picks, bradley.

A third team like Milwaukee would make too much sense. Send them draft and rebuild assets for some proven players that can be routed to the wolves.

I actually think Philly could make a good 3rd team - see if you can pry Thad Young to re-route to the Wolves in exchange for Bass & Joel Anthony's expirings, #17, and a future Brooklyn #1. Send Bogans, Olynyk, Thad, #6, and the rights to swap picks with us in 2017 to Minny. We get Love and KMart.

Why is Thad worth the #17, a BKN first (which is HUGE), and expirings, but our own Jeff Green is barely worth a late first? They are essentially the same player (same age, similar stats, same position). I can't imagine Thad would cost more than one future first, and not a BKN one.

Also, no way on trading the swap pick option. Ainge's supposed proposed deal is very reasonable and so is Jeff's on the front page: Sully OR KO, the #6,
#17 OR future BKN pick, 2015 Cs pick. And all bets should be off if Embiid slides to us.

[cman88]

I still feel like like Danny is going to try and swoop in last minute with a solid offer. he really hasnt made a serious offer yet. I mean our 6th, 17th, olynyk and next years first isnt much right now.

sullinger still hasnt entered the equation, the brooklyn picks, bradley.

I still think our 6th, 17th, and next year's first rounder is tooooooo much.  The Twolves are trying to play hardball and now it has backfired.  The Warriors are now out of the picture, so who is left to bid against Boston.  We don't need to bid against ourselves.  I say you offer two #1 picks and fillers.  Minny is not going to find anything better.  If they do, congrats. 

Minny has screwed themselves.  They have p---ed on all offers and are now stuck trying to trade Love at the trade deadline where they will likely get even less in return.

Too much?

People are nuts. If you can get a 25 year old 24/13 talent for just 3 draft picks you hit that, and quit that as quickly as possible.

plus, if you get love, how much value does next years celtics pick have? likely they would be a playoff team so it would not be a lottery pick

[RJ87]

I still feel like like Danny is going to try and swoop in last minute with a solid offer. he really hasnt made a serious offer yet. I mean our 6th, 17th, olynyk and next years first isnt much right now.

sullinger still hasnt entered the equation, the brooklyn picks, bradley.

A third team like Milwaukee would make too much sense. Send them draft and rebuild assets for some proven players that can be routed to the wolves.

I actually think Philly could make a good 3rd team - see if you can pry Thad Young to re-route to the Wolves in exchange for Bass & Joel Anthony's expirings, #17, and a future Brooklyn #1. Send Bogans, Olynyk, Thad, #6, and the rights to swap picks with us in 2017 to Minny. We get Love and KMart.

Why is Thad worth the #17, a BKN first (which is HUGE), and expirings, but our own Jeff Green is barely worth a late first? They are essentially the same player (same age, similar stats, same position). I can't imagine Thad would cost more than one future first, and not a BKN one.

Also, no way on trading the swap pick option. Ainge's supposed proposed deal is very reasonable and so is Jeff's on the front page: Sully OR KO, the #6,
#17 OR future BKN pick, 2015 Cs pick. And all bets should be off if Embiid slides to us.

You and I have different opinions on Jeff Green, but that's for another thread. I think Thad is worth a first, but maybe #17 would be enough to pry him away from Philly and you can switch out the future BKN #1 with a 2nd rounder or heavily protect the pick. I think Ainge's proposed deal is definitely not good enough and I think the initial offer was intentionally lowballing Minny.

I also don't see us getting Love for KO (no Sully because they reportedly have no interest in him), #6 (a good asset), #17, and the 2015 C's pick (we likely make the playoffs with Rondo/Love in the East and that pick isn't really that intriguing anymore). If we're going to get Love, it'll likely take KO + both picks this year + a BKN pick to get them interested.

[bruinsandceltics]

I still feel like like Danny is going to try and swoop in last minute with a solid offer. he really hasnt made a serious offer yet. I mean our 6th, 17th, olynyk and next years first isnt much right now.

sullinger still hasnt entered the equation, the brooklyn picks, bradley.

A third team like Milwaukee would make too much sense. Send them draft and rebuild assets for some proven players that can be routed to the wolves.

I actually think Philly could make a good 3rd team - see if you can pry Thad Young to re-route to the Wolves in exchange for Bass & Joel Anthony's expirings, #17, and a future Brooklyn #1. Send Bogans, Olynyk, Thad, #6, and the rights to swap picks with us in 2017 to Minny. We get Love and KMart.

Why is Thad worth the #17, a BKN first (which is HUGE), and expirings, but our own Jeff Green is barely worth a late first? They are essentially the same player (same age, similar stats, same position). I can't imagine Thad would cost more than one future first, and not a BKN one.

Also, no way on trading the swap pick option. Ainge's supposed proposed deal is very reasonable and so is Jeff's on the front page: Sully OR KO, the #6,
#17 OR future BKN pick, 2015 Cs pick. And all bets should be off if Embiid slides to us.

You and I have different opinions on Jeff Green, but that's for another thread. I think Thad is worth a first, but maybe #17 would be enough to pry him away from Philly and you can switch out the future BKN #1 with a 2nd rounder or heavily protect the pick. I think Ainge's proposed deal is definitely not good enough and I think the initial offer was intentionally lowballing Minny.

I also don't see us getting Love for KO (no Sully because they reportedly have no interest in him), #6 (a good asset), #17, and the 2015 C's pick (we likely make the playoffs with Rondo/Love in the East and that pick isn't really that intriguing anymore). If we're going to get Love, it'll likely take KO + both picks this year + a BKN pick to get them interested.

#6 isn't a good asset. #6 is a Great asset.

[DraftSmart33]

The best part is that if Flip still thinks he holds all the cards...pull the trade off the table.  Let him keep Love thinking he'll be able to convince him that Minnesota is the place to be....we can just pick up KLove for nothing at the end of the season and keep all our young assets on the roster.

[manl_lui]

The best part is that if Flip still thinks he holds all the cards...pull the trade off the table.  Let him keep Love thinking he'll be able to convince him that Minnesota is the place to be....we can just pick up KLove for nothing at the end of the season and keep all our young assets on the roster.

actually that reminds me of a question I had,

If Love does not get traded this season, do we trade Rondo?

if both are no, next year, so we have cap space to sign Love?

[RJ87]

You and I have different opinions on Jeff Green, but that's for another thread. I think Thad is worth a first, but maybe #17 would be enough to pry him away from Philly and you can switch out the future BKN #1 with a 2nd rounder or heavily protect the pick. I think Ainge's proposed deal is definitely not good enough and I think the initial offer was intentionally lowballing Minny.

I also don't see us getting Love for KO (no Sully because they reportedly have no interest in him), #6 (a good asset), #17, and the 2015 C's pick (we likely make the playoffs with Rondo/Love in the East and that pick isn't really that intriguing anymore). If we're going to get Love, it'll likely take KO + both picks this year + a BKN pick to get them interested.

#6 isn't a good asset. #6 is a Great asset.

A top 4 pick is a great asset, picks in the 5-8 range are good. IMO.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

You and I have different opinions on Jeff Green, but that's for another thread. I think Thad is worth a first, but maybe #17 would be enough to pry him away from Philly and you can switch out the future BKN #1 with a 2nd rounder or heavily protect the pick. I think Ainge's proposed deal is definitely not good enough and I think the initial offer was intentionally lowballing Minny.

I also don't see us getting Love for KO (no Sully because they reportedly have no interest in him), #6 (a good asset), #17, and the 2015 C's pick (we likely make the playoffs with Rondo/Love in the East and that pick isn't really that intriguing anymore). If we're going to get Love, it'll likely take KO + both picks this year + a BKN pick to get them interested.

#6 isn't a good asset. #6 is a Great asset.

A top 4 pick is a great asset, picks in the 5-8 range are good. IMO.

Yea, Tell that to the #5 pick Kevin Love Picks #1-10 to me all have possible potential. Damien Lillard?

[RJ87]

You and I have different opinions on Jeff Green, but that's for another thread. I think Thad is worth a first, but maybe #17 would be enough to pry him away from Philly and you can switch out the future BKN #1 with a 2nd rounder or heavily protect the pick. I think Ainge's proposed deal is definitely not good enough and I think the initial offer was intentionally lowballing Minny.

I also don't see us getting Love for KO (no Sully because they reportedly have no interest in him), #6 (a good asset), #17, and the 2015 C's pick (we likely make the playoffs with Rondo/Love in the East and that pick isn't really that intriguing anymore). If we're going to get Love, it'll likely take KO + both picks this year + a BKN pick to get them interested.

#6 isn't a good asset. #6 is a Great asset.

A top 4 pick is a great asset, picks in the 5-8 range are good. IMO.

Yea, Tell that to the #5 pick Kevin Love Picks #1-10 to me all have possible potential. Damien Lillard?

Are we dealing past picks other teams have? What does Love and Lilliard have to do with the 2014 draft class? In this upcoming draft, there's a difference between having a chance at Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, or Exum and drafting Smart, Vonleh, Gordon or Randle.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

Sorry , Thought you was talking about draft picks in general. But yes, I do agree where you crossed the line with possibly great & just good draft picks for this years class.

[Sketch5]

You and I have different opinions on Jeff Green, but that's for another thread. I think Thad is worth a first, but maybe #17 would be enough to pry him away from Philly and you can switch out the future BKN #1 with a 2nd rounder or heavily protect the pick. I think Ainge's proposed deal is definitely not good enough and I think the initial offer was intentionally lowballing Minny.

I also don't see us getting Love for KO (no Sully because they reportedly have no interest in him), #6 (a good asset), #17, and the 2015 C's pick (we likely make the playoffs with Rondo/Love in the East and that pick isn't really that intriguing anymore). If we're going to get Love, it'll likely take KO + both picks this year + a BKN pick to get them interested.

#6 isn't a good asset. #6 is a Great asset.

A top 4 pick is a great asset, picks in the 5-8 range are good. IMO.

Yea, Tell that to the #5 pick Kevin Love Picks #1-10 to me all have possible potential. Damien Lillard?

Or Paul Pierce, or Nowitzki?