Kevin Love.. Yes or No?

[gpap]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

THis is my hope.  The key is Danny's long term signing of Brad Stevens.  He knows what Brad can do, and that's why he signed him long term.  I'd like to think he also knows surrounding your young coach with established young stars and vets is a quick way to ruin a mans coaching career.  I would love to see Stevens do here what he did at Butler..get a group of smart, hungry bball players that are willing to listen and buy into system...Popovich 2.0 anyone?  If we could gt Gordon and Smart through a trade, and or even stauskis and a nice PG like napier at 17?...WOW.  A developing Olynik/Sully, a possible anchor with Asik?  This team will be alot of fun to watch for years to come.

I didnt watch many C's games this year, but early on when they were runnin and gunnin, that was fun to watch.  That's coach Stevens, and that's where this organization needs to go.

Let's not forget in 2008, there was no other Big three.  Now, that's the norm.  time to build with a Fab 5!

Sorry, but I don't want to see the Celts load up on rookies and suck because it'll be supposedly easier for Brad Stevens to coach the team.

I care a lot more about seeing my team win than whether or not Brad Stevens and his players will be going out for ice cream after the game.

[cltc5]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

THis is my hope.  The key is Danny's long term signing of Brad Stevens.  He knows what Brad can do, and that's why he signed him long term.  I'd like to think he also knows surrounding your young coach with established young stars and vets is a quick way to ruin a mans coaching career.  I would love to see Stevens do here what he did at Butler..get a group of smart, hungry bball players that are willing to listen and buy into system...Popovich 2.0 anyone?  If we could gt Gordon and Smart through a trade, and or even stauskis and a nice PG like napier at 17?...WOW.  A developing Olynik/Sully, a possible anchor with Asik?  This team will be alot of fun to watch for years to come.

I didnt watch many C's games this year, but early on when they were runnin and gunnin, that was fun to watch.  That's coach Stevens, and that's where this organization needs to go.

Let's not forget in 2008, there was no other Big three.  Now, that's the norm.  time to build with a Fab 5!

Sorry, but I don't want to see the Celts load up on rookies and suck because it'll be supposedly easier for Brad Stevens to coach the team.

I care a lot more about seeing my team win than whether or not Brad Stevens and his players will be going out for ice cream after the game.

So you'd rather them barely make the playoffs this year, get older evey year, have no cap space to sign help, continue to sniff the 2nd round, then revisit this same prospect  for the next 4-5 years?  Sounds fun

[gpap]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

THis is my hope.  The key is Danny's long term signing of Brad Stevens.  He knows what Brad can do, and that's why he signed him long term.  I'd like to think he also knows surrounding your young coach with established young stars and vets is a quick way to ruin a mans coaching career.  I would love to see Stevens do here what he did at Butler..get a group of smart, hungry bball players that are willing to listen and buy into system...Popovich 2.0 anyone?  If we could gt Gordon and Smart through a trade, and or even stauskis and a nice PG like napier at 17?...WOW.  A developing Olynik/Sully, a possible anchor with Asik?  This team will be alot of fun to watch for years to come.

I didnt watch many C's games this year, but early on when they were runnin and gunnin, that was fun to watch.  That's coach Stevens, and that's where this organization needs to go.

Let's not forget in 2008, there was no other Big three.  Now, that's the norm.  time to build with a Fab 5!

Sorry, but I don't want to see the Celts load up on rookies and suck because it'll be supposedly easier for Brad Stevens to coach the team.

I care a lot more about seeing my team win than whether or not Brad Stevens and his players will be going out for ice cream after the game.

So you'd rather them barely make the playoffs this year, get older evey year, have no cap space to sign help, continue to sniff the 2nd round, then revisit this same prospect  for the next 4-5 years?  Sounds fun

One thing to remember. When the Celts dealt for KG back in 2007, he was already 31 or 32.

Love is only 25. He's just now entering the prime of his career.

I don't think I am advocating going after players in their late 30s/early 40s just to sniff the playoffs.

I am talking about getting players to be competitive now and for the future.

Like Melo for example, he's only 30. That means he has another 5-7 years left in his career.

It is possible to field a competitive team for the present and future. One isn't necessarily independent of the other.

Say you load up on draft picks and all those picks end up becoming busts.

Then what?

[KGs Knee]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

[cman88]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

[cltc5]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

THis is my hope.  The key is Danny's long term signing of Brad Stevens.  He knows what Brad can do, and that's why he signed him long term.  I'd like to think he also knows surrounding your young coach with established young stars and vets is a quick way to ruin a mans coaching career.  I would love to see Stevens do here what he did at Butler..get a group of smart, hungry bball players that are willing to listen and buy into system...Popovich 2.0 anyone?  If we could gt Gordon and Smart through a trade, and or even stauskis and a nice PG like napier at 17?...WOW.  A developing Olynik/Sully, a possible anchor with Asik?  This team will be alot of fun to watch for years to come.

I didnt watch many C's games this year, but early on when they were runnin and gunnin, that was fun to watch.  That's coach Stevens, and that's where this organization needs to go.

Let's not forget in 2008, there was no other Big three.  Now, that's the norm.  time to build with a Fab 5!

Sorry, but I don't want to see the Celts load up on rookies and suck because it'll be supposedly easier for Brad Stevens to coach the team.

I care a lot more about seeing my team win than whether or not Brad Stevens and his players will be going out for ice cream after the game.

So you'd rather them barely make the playoffs this year, get older evey year, have no cap space to sign help, continue to sniff the 2nd round, then revisit this same prospect  for the next 4-5 years?  Sounds fun

One thing to remember. When the Celts dealt for KG back in 2007, he was already 31 or 32.

Love is only 25. He's just now entering the prime of his career.

I don't think I am advocating going after players in their late 30s/early 40s just to sniff the playoffs.

I am talking about getting players to be competitive now and for the future.

Like Melo for example, he's only 30. That means he has another 5-7 years left in his career.

It is possible to field a competitive team for the present and future. One isn't necessarily independent of the other.

Say you load up on draft picks and all those picks end up becoming busts.

Then what?

Or you put a team of Rondo/Love/melo together and they end up like the Knicks or Detroit or Houston...Then what?  Deal with disguntled players while your team implodes?  Sign help?  WIth what money?  These are all pipe dreams that about 10 other teams this year are currently envisioning.

Sure I'd love to have that team of Rondo/Love/Asik/Melo but it's not anymore of a sure thing than building through the draft.  Besides, again, why wouldn't Danny just hire some bum like Spoelstra if he envisioned a team with all those talents.  Maybe becasue Danny knows it's not a reality and it's better served for the preservation of the Celtics franchise to build through the draft.  I'm just saying there's a reason Danny hired Stevens and not a vet coach for arguably one of the most coveted head coaching jobs.

[cman88]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

THis is my hope.  The key is Danny's long term signing of Brad Stevens.  He knows what Brad can do, and that's why he signed him long term.  I'd like to think he also knows surrounding your young coach with established young stars and vets is a quick way to ruin a mans coaching career.  I would love to see Stevens do here what he did at Butler..get a group of smart, hungry bball players that are willing to listen and buy into system...Popovich 2.0 anyone?  If we could gt Gordon and Smart through a trade, and or even stauskis and a nice PG like napier at 17?...WOW.  A developing Olynik/Sully, a possible anchor with Asik?  This team will be alot of fun to watch for years to come.

I didnt watch many C's games this year, but early on when they were runnin and gunnin, that was fun to watch.  That's coach Stevens, and that's where this organization needs to go.

Let's not forget in 2008, there was no other Big three.  Now, that's the norm.  time to build with a Fab 5!

Sorry, but I don't want to see the Celts load up on rookies and suck because it'll be supposedly easier for Brad Stevens to coach the team.

I care a lot more about seeing my team win than whether or not Brad Stevens and his players will be going out for ice cream after the game.

So you'd rather them barely make the playoffs this year, get older evey year, have no cap space to sign help, continue to sniff the 2nd round, then revisit this same prospect  for the next 4-5 years?  Sounds fun

One thing to remember. When the Celts dealt for KG back in 2007, he was already 31 or 32.

Love is only 25. He's just now entering the prime of his career.

I don't think I am advocating going after players in their late 30s/early 40s just to sniff the playoffs.

I am talking about getting players to be competitive now and for the future.

Like Melo for example, he's only 30. That means he has another 5-7 years left in his career.

It is possible to field a competitive team for the present and future. One isn't necessarily independent of the other.

Say you load up on draft picks and all those picks end up becoming busts.

Then what?

Or you put a team of Rondo/Love/melo together and they end up like the Knicks or Detroit or Houston...Then what?  Deal with disguntled players while your team implodes?  Sign help?  WIth what money?  These are all pipe dreams that about 10 other teams this year are currently envisioning.

Sure I'd love to have that team of Rondo/Love/Asik/Melo but it's not anymore of a sure thing than building through the draft.  Besides, again, why wouldn't Danny just hire some bum like Spoelstra if he envisioned a team with all those talents.  Maybe becasue Danny knows it's not a reality and it's better served for the preservation of the Celtics franchise to build through the draft.  I'm just saying there's a reason Danny hired Stevens and not a vet coach for arguably one of the most coveted head coaching jobs.

replace those names with garnett/pierce and its pretty much the same. why deal with those egos when you can build through the draft with Green/Big al...thats better served for the preservation of the celtics franchise...

[playdream]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

There is no guarantee that number-guy Love plus after-injured Rondo can contend, in fact we most likely suck in 7th seed and Rondo walked away and we became the knicks
I will rather see young guys develope and go for the Spurs way

[cltc5]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

Let's look at all the "Stars" assembled on The teams of Houston, OKC, LA Clippers...and who won the title this year?  A group of guys who developed in a system, some of which were high draft pciks that panned out, but mostly guys that just were ballers that knew how to play in the system.

By your own account your suggesting that if we accrue these Stars, that it is necessary for us to win a championship or they bolt.  So let's say we don't..then what?  Again, people think we're gonna do 2007-8 all over again.  It's a different time.  These are different caliber of players.  Teams are much better in this era than back then.   And again, there's no guarantee, any of these "star" we acquire will pan out or even stick around.  I'd say the chances are less so with a coach that is trying to develop his own system.

[cman88]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

Let's look at all the "Stars" assembled on The teams of Houston, OKC, LA Clippers...and who won the title this year?  A group of guys who developed in a system, some of which were high draft pciks that panned out, but mostly guys that just were ballers that knew how to play in the system.

By your own account your suggesting that if we accrue these Stars, that it is necessary for us to win a championship or they bolt.  So let's say we don't..then what?  Again, people think we're gonna do 2007-8 all over again.  It's a different time.  These are differenct caliber of players.  And again, there's no guarantee, any of these "star" we acquire will pan out or even stick around.  I'd say the cahnces are less so with a coach that is trying to develop his own system.

The Spurs landed the #1 pick for a top 5 player of all time.....THAT is why they have been successful so long. sure they have had good management and drafting to put roleplayers around him, but the main key was having incredible luck that year. if your plan is to suck until we draft that player we will be waiting a long time. we lost out on duncan, we lost out on durant, we lost out on the top players in this draft. what is it 6th, 7th, 10th time the charm?

stars win in the NBA

[KGs Knee]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

There is no guarantee that number-guy Love plus after-injured Rondo can contend, in fact we most likely suck in 7th seed and Rondo walked away and we became the knicks
I will rather see young guys develope and go for the Spurs way

The Celtics do not have the #1 pick in the draft.  Which is kind of a prerequisite for drafting a player on the level of Duncan (or any other possible future super-star).

[cltc5]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

Let's look at all the "Stars" assembled on The teams of Houston, OKC, LA Clippers...and who won the title this year?  A group of guys who developed in a system, some of which were high draft pciks that panned out, but mostly guys that just were ballers that knew how to play in the system.

By your own account your suggesting that if we accrue these Stars, that it is necessary for us to win a championship or they bolt.  So let's say we don't..then what?  Again, people think we're gonna do 2007-8 all over again.  It's a different time.  These are differenct caliber of players.  And again, there's no guarantee, any of these "star" we acquire will pan out or even stick around.  I'd say the cahnces are less so with a coach that is trying to develop his own system.

The Spurs landed the #1 pick for a top 5 player of all time.....THAT is why they have been successful so long. sure they have had good management and drafting to put roleplayers around him, but the main key was having incredible luck that year. if your plan is to suck until we draft that player we will be waiting a long time. we lost out on duncan, we lost out on durant, we lost out on the top players in this draft. what is it 6th, 7th, 10th time the charm?

stars win in the NBA

Parker #28, Ginobli #28( second round)- 4 championships, Kawai Leonard #15 pick- championship


Greg oden-#1 pick-) zero championships
Kevin Durnat-#2 pick- zero championships
Carmelo Anthony-#3 pick-0 chmapionships
Dwight Howard-#1 pick-zero championships


The number one pick  means what now?

[cltc5]

I just for the life of me do not understand the fascination of watching a bunch of rookies suck wind and likely not amount to much.  I have no interest in watching a redux of 2006-07, 2013-14, or any of the other miserable seasons of the past.  There is no future in that, and its terrible basketball at it's worst.

Give me a winning team with established vets all day, every day.  If we can get Love (or any other star) to go along with Rondo, you don't blink, you just do the [dang] deal.

EXACTLY, plus alot of people on this board act like if you draft a rookie in the lottery they are a guaranteed all-star or superstar. Sure OKC lucked out(but they havent sniffed a championship yet) but how many OKC' success stories are there out there? There is no guarantee that anyone we draft in the next few years will be anywhere near as good as Rondo or Kevin Love

there are many more teams whom have drafted high in the lottery year after year and havent amounted to anything. Look at the cavs, look at charlotte.

then, if you get your star and the team doesnt get to a championship, your star bolts town just like chris paul, dwight howard, lebron etc. heck cleveland probably will end up losing kyrie irving.

the celtics were fortunate that Paul Pierce stuck with them through the lean years. because most superstars would have just bolted, or demanded to be traded. Danny knows this, its obviously why he is going after love, and who knows, maybe carmelo anthony

There is no guarantee that number-guy Love plus after-injured Rondo can contend, in fact we most likely suck in 7th seed and Rondo walked away and we became the knicks
I will rather see young guys develope and go for the Spurs way

The Celtics do not have the #1 pick in the draft.  Which is kind of a prerequisite for drafting a player on the level of Duncan (or any other possible future super-star).

Anthony Bennet disagrees.

[scientific_thinker]

No

It is so difficult to build a team through trades and free agency. Most long runs at championships come from teams that drafted their best player. The Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, Bulls, Rockets, Spurs, Lakers are examples of this.

The exception to the rule is the 76ers in 1983, Boston 2008, and the Heat in 2012, 2013.

So, from 1980 to 2014 88% of the NBA championship got their best player in the draft.

The Kevin Love trade reminds me of the Suns trading for Barkley when he was 29. The Suns were already a good team but the window closed on them quickly. They kept trying to add another player to get them over the hump including Danny Manning but the window proved to be too small for that team. It turned out the Rockets with Hakeem broke into the Bulls run.

Don't get me wrong, that was a great time to be a Suns fan. Kevin Love and Rondo would be fun to watch here and the team would be good. It is just unlikely they would be champions.

Also, building through the draft can be fun. Some of the best young players will be on your team. There is nothing like watching a star emerge. To me, it is much better than renting an established star.

[Alleyoopster]

No, he will be a front office distraction one way or another.  He wants to go to a contender judging by his desire to move from Minnesota.  Why bring him here?  So, he can complain that the Celtics are not winning 60 games/year.  Please Danny....pass on this player.  He could make your job and Stevens' job a nightmare.