Kevin Love.. Yes or No?

[joepatsfan]

So I've been to other forums and seen comment sections around Celtics talk and just wondering what some here think...

Do you want Kevin Love?

My perfect price for Love is #6 + #17 + '16 BKN + Sully + Oly + Wallace

This way, Flip gets 3 legit picks, a budding post player and a possible decent player and we get Love and get to lose Wallace's salary which can set us up to make a run at Melo or just pay a very good role player and make us a solid playoff team.

Other people believe that Sully is a future All-Star, bold and I don't see him being better than Love, or they want to build through the draft with the picks.

The building through the draft scares me because if BOS doesn't get Love, Rondo is gone and its really blown up a this point.

The problem with building thru the draft for me is that we want become contenders for another 4-5 seasons and that's IF those picks pan out for us. I don't want to end up like Indy and not make the playoffs for years then slowly build thru the draft and finally think you have it together then implode and find out you aren't good enough. Or we could become the next Cavs or Bobcats are just suck forever.

I think that trading, reasonably (no more than 3 picks and Sully/Oly for Love), is the best way to go. We don't even need to make the next Big 3 this season. Just stick with Rondo and Love and make the playoffs and look to find a 3rd star over time while still winning ball games.

Just my opinion, what's yours?

[Section301]

No.

I don't want the next incarnation of the C's to just be competitive, I want them to be dominant, dynastic, an historically great team.  You get there by having a transcendent player on your team, a once in a generation kind of talent.  I just don't believe Kevin Love is that guy.  Neither is anyone currently on the Celtics' roster, so by definition they are all expendable, even KO.   Sorry, guys, but face it.  KO is not the man.  He's a nice little player at best.  Before he even came here, you knew Bird was a special player.  Dude averaged 21 and 10 and shot 40% from 3 in his first season playing 36 minutes a game.  KO is NOT the man.  Let's have some standards, please.

Getting back to Kevin Love, I'm not saying he isn't good, but I am saying he's not "the one."  In light of that, I don't want to give up any assets to acquire Kevin Love if those assets might be otherwise used to obtain that player (through the draft or trade or considerations received when moving those assets), unless Kevin Love is going to be subsequently flipped to get him.   I don't even want to acquire Love to "keep Rondo from leaving" because Rondo+Love is not a championship tandem anyway, so why bother?  And I say that even though I truly enjoy having Rondo on the team.  Because seriously, I have no reason to believe that even Playoff Rondo is enough to consistently power this team through the playoffs for years to come.

And years to come is the key piece here. The latest run was nice, but it only lasted about 5 years, and it had a big hole in the middle where KG's knee went south on us.  The Bird teams gave us a decade+, Russell gave us 13 seasons and won his first and his last years in.  I want to see them build up that trophy count and put some cushion between them and the Lakers. 

So I hate to say it, but I think I'm at the point where I'm all in for an controlled demolition.  I wouldn't just trade players away for pennies on the dollar, but at this point I'd say the primary goals should be clearing cap and stockpiling assets.  No to Love.

[azzenfrost]

Yes, but I won't break the bank for him.

[jambr380]

I would like Love, but I think the OPs proposed trade seems a little high. I don't want to trade any of our Brooklyn picks and I see no reason to give up both Sullinger and Oly. I realize you are also dumping off Wallace, but the Wolves may not see that as realistic. If we do this deal, we won't be looking at cap space anytime soon, therefore, there isn't any reason to give up extra 'assets' just to get rid of his contract.

I would, however, like to get Martin in the deal and I am sure they would love to be out from under his contract. A three guard rotation of Rondo, Martin, and AB is quite balanced.

[boscel33]

No.  I believe Sully will turn into a 20/10 player just like Love, so why give him up?  If they do, though, two first and Sully is all I go.

[Nef-Oracle]

Just a certain price

[Donoghus]

I'm leaning No.  I just think the cost will end up being prohibitive. 

[Clench123]

I seriously hope we are not overpaying for him.

[BleedGreen1989]

You're not including Wallace is any Love deal.

But yes, I'd want Love and I'd likely "overpay" for him given how many picks Boston has.

[gpap]

Yes, of course.

It's a no-brainer.

But I would at least want some assurance that Love will opt-in for the 15-16 season.

I wouldn't want to deal for a one year rental.

[SHAQATTACK]

We aren't getting him if Klay Thompson is in the mix against us , it's just that simple.  It would take like THREE first round picks and Sully and KO to trump what Golden State is willing to give up.....Kerr apparently is dying to have him at all,costs.

I have pondered hard on what the best and SAFEST pick to rebuild on .

If you read a lot of the articles,on Embiid ,  this foot or feet maybe the Achilles heal of,his career ....I think taking him in the top 8 in this draft too risky ......that injury has sunk many star players .

I believe there is less Risk with Vonleh than any other player other than Wiggins and Parker .  Randle is going to be good too , but not as high as Vonleh , or as useful to Celtics.

If Embiids back was the only issue , I'd go for it ,  but my old lady is a PT ....30 years experience and she shook her head after reading about Emibiid.

His game is athletic , if he stands flat footed , he sucks, he is not skilled like Bosh ,  I fear he may never be able to play hard and not kill the foot .   The repeated shock to the feet , is what caused it , and he isn't even in the 80 + game NBA yet ...... I don't think he can survive the NBA .....genetics has cursed him.

[cltc5]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

[SHAQATTACK]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

[gpap]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

Rebuilding through the draft is no more of a guarantee than acquiring an all-star like Love in leading the Celts back to contention. There are fans like myself that want to see the Celts be competitive this season.

[cltc5]

NO!.. We could potentially get young this year and have a nice foundation moving forward.  Add some vets next year and we're contending again.  People need to wake up around here.  This isnt 2008 again.  Houston tried it, NY tried it, Detroit tried it, all with failure.  Trying to assemble a big 3.  It only worked in Miami becasue of politics and that Lebron is a cut above alot of other talents. 

We can;t keep throwing all are eggs in one basket then 2-3 years later redoing it again.  these same young guys that are being passed over will eventually be guys that help another team while we scramble for vets again. 

I like the idea of getting Love but not for the sake of the future.  We have no idea if Love will stay, or if Rondo will stay or be healthy, or which jeff green we'll get. 

We need to build through this draft.  Trade Rondo, Green, etc and try to get another top 10 pick to go with 6 and 17.  grab some second rounders and fill up the roster with some in their prime vets.  With this we have a team that can compete now and moving forward.

I think you ve pretty mixed nailed what the outcome will be .  I ve  given up on the Melo , Love , Gasol deal.....we still probally wind up with Asik .

I'm just not for taking Emiib anymore ,   Need Exum , Vonleh or Gordon  or Randle to build on.

Disappearance of Rondo and Green is very likely ......continued rebuild with picks

THis is my hope.  The key is Danny's long term signing of Brad Stevens.  He knows what Brad can do, and that's why he signed him long term.  I'd like to think he also knows surrounding your young coach with established young stars and vets is a quick way to ruin a mans coaching career.  I would love to see Stevens do here what he did at Butler..get a group of smart, hungry bball players that are willing to listen and buy into system...Popovich 2.0 anyone?  If we could gt Gordon and Smart through a trade, and or even stauskis and a nice PG like napier at 17?...WOW.  A developing Olynik/Sully, a possible anchor with Asik?  This team will be alot of fun to watch for years to come.

I didnt watch many C's games this year, but early on when they were runnin and gunnin, that was fun to watch.  That's coach Stevens, and that's where this organization needs to go.

Let's not forget in 2008, there was no other Big three.  Now, that's the norm.  time to build with a Fab 5!