embiid suffers foot injury

[knuckleballer]

If you trade Rondo to the Lakers, take Gordon (unless Smart available which I doubt) and try to get Payton with the 17. Or you may have to package it with a future 1 to trade up and get him.  Lot's of options.

I still say the focus should be on whatever it takes to get Embiid, within reason.  I think we are going to work out a deal with ORL.

I don't think it makes sense for the teams ahead of the Celtics to take Embiid, but you're right that Orlando may force us to trade up for him.  A future first will likely get it done along with the 6th pick.  Then again Danny may call their bluff since Embiid doesn't make sense for the teams drafting immediately after the Celtics either.  The Lakers need a guy that can play immediately and the Kings have Cousins.  It will be interesting to see it play out. 

[Surferdad]

@SteveBHoop  ?  25m
Barring bad med news, Celts would love if Embiid available at 6. Coincidentally, franchise took Bird as jr eligible at same spot in '78.

Bird didn't have a broken foot or bad back in 1978..stay away from Embiid unless C's want to tank again and wait on him like Philly did with Noel

That would b the idea. He's out for 4-6 months now anyway. The question is if he can come back healthy. The record is not good for players who have had this type of stress fracture. The only difference here is that Embiid is quite young and may heal faster/better.

There is no analogy to Bird being drafted #6 38 years ago. None whatsoever.

[Waew]

embiid out 4-6 months for recovery

 had two screws inserted into his foot during surgery Friday morning and will need what a source told ESPN.com's Andy Katz is four to six months to fully recover.

Celtics strongly looking at moving up, potentially to spot #3, for Embiid according to ESPN.
 
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11113739/2014-nba-draft-joel-embiid-screws-inserted-foot-surgery

[Rondo9]

Where in the article does it say that the Celtics wanted to move up to number three? Also now that there is a 4-6 month recovery for Embiid, where does he fall in the draft?

[Eddie20]

Some predictions for draft night:

Celtics select Embiid with the 6th pick
Trade Rondo to the Lakers for the 7th pick and draft Aaron Gordon
Celticsblog crashes
A couple of Celticsbloggers are rushed to the hospital with chest pains.

Gave u a TP for that one.

Agree on all counts, except that I'd rather have Smart than Gordon. That team would struggle, especially with Embiid missing a chunk of the season, but the payoff (highly touted 2015 draft) could be huge.

[Rondo9]

Some predictions for draft night:

Celtics select Embiid with the 6th pick
Trade Rondo to the Lakers for the 7th pick and draft Aaron Gordon
Celticsblog crashes
A couple of Celticsbloggers are rushed to the hospital with chest pains.

Gave u a TP for that one.

Agree on all counts, except that I'd rather have Smart than Gordon. That team would struggle, especially with Embiid missing a chunk of the season, but the payoff (highly touted 2015 draft) could be huge.

I think the team will keep Rondo, draft Embiid and go after Asik so that way they take Embiid's recovery/development time slowly.

[knuckleballer]

Some predictions for draft night:

Celtics select Embiid with the 6th pick
Trade Rondo to the Lakers for the 7th pick and draft Aaron Gordon
Celticsblog crashes
A couple of Celticsbloggers are rushed to the hospital with chest pains.

Gave u a TP for that one.

Agree on all counts, except that I'd rather have Smart than Gordon. That team would struggle, especially with Embiid missing a chunk of the season, but the payoff (highly touted 2015 draft) could be huge.

Thanks for the TP  . I'd rather have Smart too, but I think he'll be gone by six with Embiid sliding.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Where in the article does it say that the Celtics wanted to move up to number three? Also now that there is a 4-6 month recovery for Embiid, where does he fall in the draft?

If he's really as transcendent as they say he is...there's no way he's falling to 10.

But the risk is there...bigs take more of a toll from injuries.

He was also somewhat red flagged before.

Best case scenario - you still lose a season of development for Embiid.

[knuckleballer]

Some predictions for draft night:

Celtics select Embiid with the 6th pick
Trade Rondo to the Lakers for the 7th pick and draft Aaron Gordon
Celticsblog crashes
A couple of Celticsbloggers are rushed to the hospital with chest pains.

Gave u a TP for that one.

Agree on all counts, except that I'd rather have Smart than Gordon. That team would struggle, especially with Embiid missing a chunk of the season, but the payoff (highly touted 2015 draft) could be huge.

I think the team will keep Rondo, draft Embiid and go after Asik so that way they take Embiid's recovery/development time slowly.

The problem with keeping Rondo and drafting Embiid is that Embiid may not even play next year.  That will make it hard to keep him.  We might as well go full rebuild.

[Beat LA]

@SteveBHoop  ?  25m
Barring bad med news, Celts would love if Embiid available at 6. Coincidentally, franchise took Bird as jr eligible at same spot in '78.

Bird didn't have a broken foot or bad back in 1978..stay away from Embiid unless C's want to tank again and wait on him like Philly did with Noel

That would b the idea. He's out for 4-6 months now anyway. The question is if he can come back healthy. The record is not good for players who have had this type of stress fracture. The only difference here is that Embiid is quite young and may heal faster/better.

There is no analogy to Bird being drafted #6 38 years ago. None whatsoever.

Sure there is.  We had to wait for a year after drafting Larry before he played for us, not that I'm complaining.  That's where the comparison ends, though.  Someone beat me to it earlier when they said that it could turn out to be like when Blake had surgery on his kneecap and missed what would have been his rookie year. 

On the other hand, Oden also had surgery and missed the entire 07-08 season, and we all know how things played out after that.

I'd still take Embiid, though, if he's there.  His talent is just too much to pass up, imho.

[Jailan34]

@SteveBHoop  ?  25m
Barring bad med news, Celts would love if Embiid available at 6. Coincidentally, franchise took Bird as jr eligible at same spot in '78.

Bird didn't have a broken foot or bad back in 1978..stay away from Embiid unless C's want to tank again and wait on him like Philly did with Noel

That would b the idea. He's out for 4-6 months now anyway. The question is if he can come back healthy. The record is not good for players who have had this type of stress fracture. The only difference here is that Embiid is quite young and may heal faster/better.

There is no analogy to Bird being drafted #6 38 years ago. None whatsoever.

Sure there is.  We had to wait for a year after drafting Larry before he played for us, not that I'm complaining.  That's where the comparison ends, though.  Someone beat me to it earlier when they said that it could turn out to be like when Blake had surgery on his kneecap and missed what would have been his rookie year. 

On the other hand, Oden also had surgery and missed the entire 07-08 season, and we all know how things played out after that.

I'd still take Embiid, though, if he's there.  His talent is just too much to pass up, imho.

I'm also okay with the risk, if we can't land Love and try to rebuild quickly we are in a situation where we can take some risks on some young guys.

[j804]

Some predictions for draft night:

Celtics select Embiid with the 6th pick
Trade Rondo to the Lakers for the 7th pick and draft Aaron Gordon
Celticsblog crashes
A couple of Celticsbloggers are rushed to the hospital with chest pains.

Gave u a TP for that one.

Agree on all counts, except that I'd rather have Smart than Gordon. That team would struggle, especially with Embiid missing a chunk of the season, but the payoff (highly touted 2015 draft) could be huge.

I think the team will keep Rondo, draft Embiid and go after Asik so that way they take Embiid's recovery/development time slowly.

The problem with keeping Rondo and drafting Embiid is that Embiid may not even play next year.  That will make it hard to keep him.  We might as well go full rebuild.

If we go the Embiid route say hello to a full blown 5 year rebuild from the bottom....with Rondo seeing the door.

[Surferdad]

@SteveBHoop  ?  25m
Barring bad med news, Celts would love if Embiid available at 6. Coincidentally, franchise took Bird as jr eligible at same spot in '78.

Bird didn't have a broken foot or bad back in 1978..stay away from Embiid unless C's want to tank again and wait on him like Philly did with Noel

That would b the idea. He's out for 4-6 months now anyway. The question is if he can come back healthy. The record is not good for players who have had this type of stress fracture. The only difference here is that Embiid is quite young and may heal faster/better.

There is no analogy to Bird being drafted #6 38 years ago. None whatsoever.

Sure there is.  We had to wait for a year after drafting Larry before he played for us, not that I'm complaining.  That's where the comparison ends, though.  Someone beat me to it earlier when they said that it could turn out to be like when Blake had surgery on his kneecap and missed what would have been his rookie year. 

On the other hand, Oden also had surgery and missed the entire 07-08 season, and we all know how things played out after that.

I'd still take Embiid, though, if he's there.  His talent is just too much to pass up, imho.

I would too.  It's a huge roll of the dice, but opportunities like this are rare.  If Embiid turns out to be Greg Oden then so be it. Try something else.   

[knuckleballer]

@SteveBHoop  ?  25m
Barring bad med news, Celts would love if Embiid available at 6. Coincidentally, franchise took Bird as jr eligible at same spot in '78.

Bird didn't have a broken foot or bad back in 1978..stay away from Embiid unless C's want to tank again and wait on him like Philly did with Noel

That would b the idea. He's out for 4-6 months now anyway. The question is if he can come back healthy. The record is not good for players who have had this type of stress fracture. The only difference here is that Embiid is quite young and may heal faster/better.

There is no analogy to Bird being drafted #6 38 years ago. None whatsoever.

Sure there is.  We had to wait for a year after drafting Larry before he played for us, not that I'm complaining.  That's where the comparison ends, though.  Someone beat me to it earlier when they said that it could turn out to be like when Blake had surgery on his kneecap and missed what would have been his rookie year. 

On the other hand, Oden also had surgery and missed the entire 07-08 season, and we all know how things played out after that.

I'd still take Embiid, though, if he's there.  His talent is just too much to pass up, imho.

I would too.  It's a huge roll of the dice, but opportunities like this are rare.  If Embiid turns out to be Greg Oden then so be it. Try something else.

Exactly, if Embiid is a bust, then we will still have a lot of young players, draft picks, and cap space opening up.  If he lives up to his potential, we will have a very bright future.

[Surferdad]

@SteveBHoop  ?  25m
Barring bad med news, Celts would love if Embiid available at 6. Coincidentally, franchise took Bird as jr eligible at same spot in '78.

Bird didn't have a broken foot or bad back in 1978..stay away from Embiid unless C's want to tank again and wait on him like Philly did with Noel

That would b the idea. He's out for 4-6 months now anyway. The question is if he can come back healthy. The record is not good for players who have had this type of stress fracture. The only difference here is that Embiid is quite young and may heal faster/better.

There is no analogy to Bird being drafted #6 38 years ago. None whatsoever.

Sure there is.  We had to wait for a year after drafting Larry before he played for us, not that I'm complaining.  That's where the comparison ends, though.  Someone beat me to it earlier when they said that it could turn out to be like when Blake had surgery on his kneecap and missed what would have been his rookie year. 

On the other hand, Oden also had surgery and missed the entire 07-08 season, and we all know how things played out after that.

I'd still take Embiid, though, if he's there.  His talent is just too much to pass up, imho.

I would too.  It's a huge roll of the dice, but opportunities like this are rare.  If Embiid turns out to be Greg Oden then so be it. Try something else.

Exactly, if Embiid is a bust, then we will still have a lot of young players, draft picks, and cap space opening up.  If he lives up to his potential, we will have a very bright future.

Yeah I can hang in with rebuilding for a couple of years.

QUESTION: Does Rondo/Love get you a championship? Prolly not.  Now, how about Rondo/Love/Melo?  I'm not sure, especially in a Lebron Eastern Conference.