embiid suffers foot injury

[Rondo9]

Ford has Embiid sliding to ORL at 4.  Simmons says Tellum wants Embiid to go to Celts or Lakers if he is not #1 pick.

Really don't think Orlando takes the risk, even though I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted him.

[Eddie20]

Ford has Embiid sliding to ORL at 4.  Simmons says Tellum wants Embiid to go to Celts or Lakers if he is not #1 pick.

Really don't think Orlando takes the risk, even though I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted him.

If they didn't love Smart so much they probably would.

[Evantime34]

I am a huge embiid fan but if we don't make a trade and draft a guy who might not make an impact this year, do we lose Rondo?

[hpantazo]

I am a huge embiid fan but if we don't make a trade and draft a guy who might not make an impact this year, do we lose Rondo?

Yes. Most likely if we get Embiid we trade Rondo for some more picks or prospects

[Beat LA]

the way i see it now

1. Cavs - Wiggins
2. Bucks - Parker
3. 76ers - Exum
4. Magic - Smart
5. Jazz - Embiid/Gordon/Randle/Vonleh
6. Celtics - the leftover

If this is the case i can see the celtics having a super good chance to get embiid. Just flip the 17 and 23rd picks.

Apparently, Milwaukee really likes Exum, and because they already have their 3 of the future in Giannis Antetokounmpo, Parker might be available for Philly, even though they prefer Wiggins, so I still see a draft day trade between the cavs and sixers as a strong probability.  That means for something like this -

1. Cavs - Wiggins (traded to sixers for numbers 3, and perhaps 10.  You never know what the asking price will be, but I think it's safe to say that it will be relatively high, even though the cavs will 'somehow' receive the number 1 pick next year, depending on what happens with Lebron.)
2. Bucks - Exum
3. 76ers - Parker (traded to Cavs)
4. Magic - Embiid (there's no way the Magic pass up on getting a potentially franchise player in the big man.  If they do pass on him, they'll take Smart.).
5. Jazz - Embiid (same as above, which leaves the Celtics in the familiar situation of 'so close, and yet, so far.')
6. Celtics - I'm not sure what happens then.  Left to choose between Vonleh, Randle, and Gordon sounds like picking your poison, but I'll go with Randle.

I wouldn't get your hopes up, guys.  We're not going to get him, unless Red can somehow work his magic up there, haha.

I don't know about the Magic, I'm not sure Utah takes a risk with Embiid when they have Kanter and Favors there. There's still a strong chance he falls to the Celtics.

Hey, I hope you're right.  I'm just trying to be realistic.

[Who]

I am a huge embiid fan but if we don't make a trade and draft a guy who might not make an impact this year, do we lose Rondo?

Yes. Most likely if we get Embiid we trade Rondo for some more picks or prospects

I think Rondo would be great to keep around to help Embiid. Those two would be special together in the PnR. 

Ainge would still have enough cap space and trade assets to add an additional star to Rondo and Embiid. So I believe Ainge can convince Rondo to sign contract extension next summer.

Having Rondo around is something that makes me feel much better about Embiid being in the right environment for his development. Having a playmaker like Rondo to help Embiid get easy shots. Very helpful for early years of development. Keeping Rondo would be a priority for me if Ainge drafts Embiid.

[Beat LA]

Ford has Embiid sliding to ORL at 4.  Simmons says Tellum wants Embiid to go to Celts or Lakers if he is not #1 pick.

If he's there and we pass on him, only to have the Lakers take him and he turns into the next great big man, I'm going to be more than a little ticked off.  I'd take him just to prevent him from joining that organization. 

[Beat LA]

I am a huge embiid fan but if we don't make a trade and draft a guy who might not make an impact this year, do we lose Rondo?

Yes. Most likely if we get Embiid we trade Rondo for some more picks or prospects

I think Rondo would be great to keep around to help Embiid. Those two would be special together in the PnR. 

Ainge would still have enough cap space and trade assets to add an additional star to Rondo and Embiid. So I believe Ainge can convince Rondo to sign contract extension next summer.

Having Rondo around is something that makes me feel much better about Embiid being in the right environment for his development. Having a playmaker like Rondo to help Embiid get easy shots. Very helpful for early years of development. Keeping Rondo would be a priority for me if Ainge drafts Embiid.

They'd be special together in many more ways than just the pick and roll, but you beat me to it.  It would almost be like the Rondo-Garnett relationship on the court, but, this time around, in reverse.

[clover]

I am a huge embiid fan but if we don't make a trade and draft a guy who might not make an impact this year, do we lose Rondo?

Yes. Most likely if we get Embiid we trade Rondo for some more picks or prospects

I think Rondo would be great to keep around to help Embiid. Those two would be special together in the PnR. 

Ainge would still have enough cap space and trade assets to add an additional star to Rondo and Embiid. So I believe Ainge can convince Rondo to sign contract extension next summer.

Having Rondo around is something that makes me feel much better about Embiid being in the right environment for his development. Having a playmaker like Rondo to help Embiid get easy shots. Very helpful for early years of development. Keeping Rondo would be a priority for me if Ainge drafts Embiid.

They'd be special together in many more ways than just the pick and roll, but you beat me to it.  It would almost be like the Rondo-Garnett relationship on the court, but, this time around, in reverse.

The question is whether Rondo would want to stick around for rebuild with a raw, injured rookie--however promising. Personally, I doubt it.

[slamtheking]

I am a huge embiid fan but if we don't make a trade and draft a guy who might not make an impact this year, do we lose Rondo?

Yes. Most likely if we get Embiid we trade Rondo for some more picks or prospects

I think Rondo would be great to keep around to help Embiid. Those two would be special together in the PnR. 

Ainge would still have enough cap space and trade assets to add an additional star to Rondo and Embiid. So I believe Ainge can convince Rondo to sign contract extension next summer.

Having Rondo around is something that makes me feel much better about Embiid being in the right environment for his development. Having a playmaker like Rondo to help Embiid get easy shots. Very helpful for early years of development. Keeping Rondo would be a priority for me if Ainge drafts Embiid.

They'd be special together in many more ways than just the pick and roll, but you beat me to it.  It would almost be like the Rondo-Garnett relationship on the court, but, this time around, in reverse.

The question is whether Rondo would want to stick around for rebuild with a raw, injured rookie--however promising. Personally, I doubt it.

that's just pure speculation though.  I think Rondo would stick it out because A) he likes playing in Boston and B) he'll get the most $ here and C) provided the C's are acquiring good young talent that continues to develop, I think he'll buy into the process.  He might not sign on for the max number of years or ask for a player's option for the years after the first couple on the next contract to give him an out if things go south and he wants to move on.

There's several options open to Rondo and the C's to make this work.

[hwangjini_1]

I confess to complete plagiarism here. I lifted this from SOSH from a post by thedeuce222.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/80655-2014-nba-draft-thread/page-26

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(from) espn insider right now from Dr. Mark Adickes - who was the Rockets team physician in 2006-2010 when Yao Ming dealt with his navicular bone stress fracture injuries.  He "projects" Embiid to make a full recovery and have a "solid" NBA career.  Adickes makes several important points in which Embiid differs from Yao:  
 
One - Ming was huge - significantly larger than Embiid, standing at 7'6, 310ish.  This put a significantly higher amount of stress on his feet than Embiid's frame does.  
 
Two - Ming originally suffered the injury in April 2006.  At that time, Ming had already been playing professional basketball for almost a decade - first in China and then with the Rockets.  He had a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body which made it harder to heal from the injury.  
 
Three - After Ming's original injury in April 06, he was put on crutches to heal without having surgery.  He came back in the 06-07 season, played well and was named second-team All-NBA.  He then suffered a recurrence the following year.
 
Four - Ming had extremely high arches in his feet, which placed added stress on the bones, and which he doubts Embiid has to the same degree.

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[manl_lui]

I confess to complete plagiarism here. I lifted this from SOSH from a post by thedeuce222.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/80655-2014-nba-draft-thread/page-26

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(from) espn insider right now from Dr. Mark Adickes - who was the Rockets team physician in 2006-2010 when Yao Ming dealt with his navicular bone stress fracture injuries.  He "projects" Embiid to make a full recovery and have a "solid" NBA career.  Adickes makes several important points in which Embiid differs from Yao: 
 
One - Ming was huge - significantly larger than Embiid, standing at 7'6, 310ish.  This put a significantly higher amount of stress on his feet than Embiid's frame does. 
 
Two - Ming originally suffered the injury in April 2006.  At that time, Ming had already been playing professional basketball for almost a decade - first in China and then with the Rockets.  He had a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body which made it harder to heal from the injury. 
 
Three - After Ming's original injury in April 06, he was put on crutches to heal without having surgery.  He came back in the 06-07 season, played well and was named second-team All-NBA.  He then suffered a recurrence the following year.
 
Four - Ming had extremely high arches in his feet, which placed added stress on the bones, and which he doubts Embiid has to the same degree.

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Five - Yao Ming barely rested his injury, he would play in the NBA, then play for China in the summer, I remember specifically, after the NBA season was ove in 07-08, Yao played for China in the olympics

[Sketch5]

I confess to complete plagiarism here. I lifted this from SOSH from a post by thedeuce222.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/80655-2014-nba-draft-thread/page-26

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(from) espn insider right now from Dr. Mark Adickes - who was the Rockets team physician in 2006-2010 when Yao Ming dealt with his navicular bone stress fracture injuries.  He "projects" Embiid to make a full recovery and have a "solid" NBA career.  Adickes makes several important points in which Embiid differs from Yao: 
 
One - Ming was huge - significantly larger than Embiid, standing at 7'6, 310ish.  This put a significantly higher amount of stress on his feet than Embiid's frame does. 
 
Two - Ming originally suffered the injury in April 2006.  At that time, Ming had already been playing professional basketball for almost a decade - first in China and then with the Rockets.  He had a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body which made it harder to heal from the injury. 
 
Three - After Ming's original injury in April 06, he was put on crutches to heal without having surgery.  He came back in the 06-07 season, played well and was named second-team All-NBA.  He then suffered a recurrence the following year.
 
Four - Ming had extremely high arches in his feet, which placed added stress on the bones, and which he doubts Embiid has to the same degree.

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I was worried about the injury being long term, and it still could be. But if the C's take him at the 6th, I feel a little bit better about it than I did before. If he works out, man what a steel!

[Waew]

I confess to complete plagiarism here. I lifted this from SOSH from a post by thedeuce222.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/80655-2014-nba-draft-thread/page-26

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(from) espn insider right now from Dr. Mark Adickes - who was the Rockets team physician in 2006-2010 when Yao Ming dealt with his navicular bone stress fracture injuries.  He "projects" Embiid to make a full recovery and have a "solid" NBA career.  Adickes makes several important points in which Embiid differs from Yao: 
 
One - Ming was huge - significantly larger than Embiid, standing at 7'6, 310ish.  This put a significantly higher amount of stress on his feet than Embiid's frame does. 
 
Two - Ming originally suffered the injury in April 2006.  At that time, Ming had already been playing professional basketball for almost a decade - first in China and then with the Rockets.  He had a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body which made it harder to heal from the injury. 
 
Three - After Ming's original injury in April 06, he was put on crutches to heal without having surgery.  He came back in the 06-07 season, played well and was named second-team All-NBA.  He then suffered a recurrence the following year.
 
Four - Ming had extremely high arches in his feet, which placed added stress on the bones, and which he doubts Embiid has to the same degree.

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I was worried about the injury being long term, and it still could be. But if the C's take him at the 6th, I feel a little bit better about it than I did before. If he works out, man what a steel!

embiid would be a steal at any number. 2. 3. 4.

we have to hope Danny can trade up to 4.

[hpantazo]

This Embiid situation changes everything. Now that we have a legit shot at him I can see Ainge reversing gears on acquiring Love, and look to deal Rondo instead. At the very least , he can pretend to want Embiid and push Sota to drop their high demands for Love