Stephen A Smith: Love not liked by Saunders, Minny FO and Minny Players

[TwinTower14]

Doc Rivers traded to the Clippers?  Pretty much absurd on its face, everyone was laughing about it but he was dead right. 

Steven A. Smith's a bombastic loudmouth, but you can't ignore him.

beat me to it, he also had the big 3 in Miami way before anyone else...

[footey]

Two sides to looking at Love asking to be traded now:

1. Good Love:  Giving his team a chance to get value back for him.  Not waiting until his contract expires to make "the Decision".

2. Bad Love: He's a quitter.  The opposite of Garnett, who fought tooth and nail to make that franchise relevant.  That team has been on a positive trajectory over the last several years, and now, at the young age of 25, you demand to be traded to a "winner"?

I agree with what someone else said above, this is more about his wanting to just leave dodge and start over, and less about his wanting to be on a championship team  immediately. Why else would he consider coming to Boston?

[indeedproceed]

Thing about what Smith said, Windhurst was nodding his head in agreement at the time.

Its the first I had ever heard that Love might be a malcontent in the locker room but it does explain some things.

I think he's wanted out for a while and his team mates knew it. Similar thing happened with Melo too.

If you don't want to be with an organization, its viewed as an attack on the team around you. Hard not to take that personally.

That makes a lot of sense. Just the first I had heard of it.

he is a special player, the numbers that he puts up are incredible, but still the leader has to be somebody else (...) He leads in scoring, in other things, but in voice he is not the type of player that wants to be or that can be, no? There are different types of leaders. Still, it did not have to have been him, it should have been Kevin Martin, with a little more experience, or even I can take a step further and start to be the definitive leader.

That's the Rubio quote.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24567783/ricky-rubio-questions-kevin-loves-leadership

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZgU0cT_TfI&feature=kp

Rubio as a leader would be awesome.

[Who]

K-Love has criticized his teammates a few times over the last couple of years.

Not surprised teammates don't love him.

[manl_lui]

I am not surprised after hearing Flip said Love does not deserve to feel frustrated.

[D.o.s.]

Thing about what Smith said, Windhurst was nodding his head in agreement at the time.

Its the first I had ever heard that Love might be a malcontent in the locker room but it does explain some things.

I think he's wanted out for a while and his team mates knew it. Similar thing happened with Melo too.

If you don't want to be with an organization, its viewed as an attack on the team around you. Hard not to take that personally.

That makes a lot of sense. Just the first I had heard of it.

he is a special player, the numbers that he puts up are incredible, but still the leader has to be somebody else (...) He leads in scoring, in other things, but in voice he is not the type of player that wants to be or that can be, no? There are different types of leaders. Still, it did not have to have been him, it should have been Kevin Martin, with a little more experience, or even I can take a step further and start to be the definitive leader.

That's the Rubio quote.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24567783/ricky-rubio-questions-kevin-loves-leadership

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZgU0cT_TfI&feature=kp

Rubio as a leader would be awesome.

Some Mildly NSFW Language, but :51 seconds in, you hear Michael Beasley call someone out for a botched outlet pass by saying "you are not Kevin Love"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZpnfMAmzHk

[obnoxiousmime]

Love needs to be a sidekick to a superstar who has leadership qualities. In that way he's kind of like a Bosh-esque guy. I don't think he's a bad apple but he clearly checked out. A natural leader wouldn't do that.

I also think he didn't get enough flak for his Boston media tour (probably because most in the media favor Love ending up somewhere like Boston). If the Minnesota front office hadn't lost all credibility the last 20 years the story might have been viewed differently. I mean, Minnesota is not actually a horrible team! Pekovic and Dieng are two guys most teams would want. I suspect deep down the big market thing is a bigger factor in Love's decision than he would admit publicly and the "Minnesota sucks as usual, why wouldn't he leave?" narrative is conveniently hiding that fact. That and the realization that, like Bosh he obviously just isn't capable of being "the guy."

[LilRip]

I don't know much about Love's personality, so I don't know if whether SAS is on to something or he's just trying to grab attention, but winning is the cure for a malcontent. I think if Love is here, we're a lock for the playoffs. The 7th seed, maybe?

[Sketch5]

Two sides to looking at Love asking to be traded now:

1. Good Love:  Giving his team a chance to get value back for him.  Not waiting until his contract expires to make "the Decision".

2. Bad Love: He's a quitter.  The opposite of Garnett, who fought tooth and nail to make that franchise relevant.  That team has been on a positive trajectory over the last several years, and now, at the young age of 25, you demand to be traded to a "winner"?

I agree with what someone else said above, this is more about his wanting to just leave dodge and start over, and less about his wanting to be on a championship team  immediately. Why else would he consider coming to Boston?

I don't think Love is an idiot. He probably saw what KG went threw, maybe even talked to KG about Minni, and knows he needs to get out now before it's too late.

I don't think he wants to be traded to a winner, but a winning organization. He knows Boston has some work, but also knows DA is a good GM that will make moves to make the team better.

I could see Love being a better fit in a better organization. You play for losers, you end up with a loser mentality, and it shows on the court.

[GreenWarrior]

Two sides to looking at Love asking to be traded now:

1. Good Love:  Giving his team a chance to get value back for him.  Not waiting until his contract expires to make "the Decision".

2. Bad Love: He's a quitter.  The opposite of Garnett, who fought tooth and nail to make that franchise relevant.  That team has been on a positive trajectory over the last several years, and now, at the young age of 25, you demand to be traded to a "winner"?

I agree with what someone else said above, this is more about his wanting to just leave dodge and start over, and less about his wanting to be on a championship team  immediately. Why else would he consider coming to Boston?

so you'd rather see him waste 10 yrs. of his career like KG did? when even KG admitted he should have left a long time ago.

Love has said he wants to go to a winner or a team that(to paraphrase) has a history of wanting to win basically. the best team Minn. has put on the court in the 25 plus yrs. I've been watching basketball had KG, Sprewell & Sam Cassel and they had a short run as a top team. that's it.

so i'd say Minn. has a pretty significant track record here of not being able to do things the right way. and for a pretty good player that wants to win to want out of Minn.  I don't blame him.

[mmmmm]

Do we still want to take him off their hands?

For the right price, sure, I think so.

[mmmmm]

Rubio as a leader would be awesome.

As long as it's the leader of some other team than the Celtics, I'm down with that.

[colincb]

Thing about what Smith said, Windhurst was nodding his head in agreement at the time.

Its the first I had ever heard that Love might be a malcontent in the locker room but it does explain some things.

I think he's wanted out for a while and his team mates knew it. Similar thing happened with Melo too.

If you don't want to be with an organization, its viewed as an attack on the team around you. Hard not to take that personally.

That makes a lot of sense. Just the first I had heard of it.

he is a special player, the numbers that he puts up are incredible, but still the leader has to be somebody else (...) He leads in scoring, in other things, but in voice he is not the type of player that wants to be or that can be, no? There are different types of leaders. Still, it did not have to have been him, it should have been Kevin Martin, with a little more experience, or even I can take a step further and start to be the definitive leader.

That's the Rubio quote.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24567783/ricky-rubio-questions-kevin-loves-leadership

Martin couldn't lead a one man band and Rubio's the biggest reason the TWolves didn't make the playoffs.  I don't know what Love is like in the locker room, but Rubio shouldn't be saying anything to the press undermining him.  That's certainly not leadership.

[bucknersrevenge]

Doc Rivers traded to the Clippers?  Pretty much absurd on its face, everyone was laughing about it but he was dead right. 

Steven A. Smith's a bombastic loudmouth, but you can't ignore him.

You definitely can't ignore him. Everything he says is important. See for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er4AsQZpgR8

[playdream]

Not surprised, he is their best player but can't be their leader
not a warrior and never will be