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Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2014, 07:33:25 PM »

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Sure, mortgage the future...just like we did with KG.

As being from the Minnesota area, I am confident in saying that I have watched more Timberwolves games than 99% of the other posters here.  I think KLove is a fine basketball player, and would be okay with the C's acquiring him as long as the price is right.  But he is not even in the same universe as Kevin Garnett.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2014, 07:33:42 PM »

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I'd rather him be a Laker.  We need somebody who plays both ends of the court....Especially if we're mortgaging the future for the player.

Perhaps we should mortgage the future for Kevin Love.

A 25 year-old perennial All-Star..2nd Team All-NBA...26/13/4....legendary outlet passes......who will get better on Defense?

And who has expressed interest in WANTING to come to BOS? Despite what Ric Bucher stated?

Sure, mortgage the future...just like we did with KG.

And look where that got us :)

No, you are missing the point. He's not LeBron or KG. He's not a surefire future Hall of Famer...thus we have no use for him.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2014, 07:38:04 PM »

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Sure, mortgage the future...just like we did with KG.

As being from the Minnesota area, I am confident in saying that I have watched more Timberwolves games than 99% of the other posters here.  I think KLove is a fine basketball player, and would be okay with the C's acquiring him as long as the price is right.  But he is not even in the same universe as Kevin Garnett.

Ummmmm....I didn't say he was in the same universe as Kevin Garnett, lol....

To be even more clearer - just like we gave up a LOT to get KG in BOS...if we "have" to do the same with KLove, then we should.

I've watched a LOT of basketball, too - please don't say I stated something when I didn't.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2014, 07:44:31 PM »

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I'd rather him be a Laker.  We need somebody who plays both ends of the court....Especially if we're mortgaging the future for the player.
I wonder how'd you feel about getting Durant.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2014, 08:01:42 PM »

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Kevin Love was at E3 today (Big gaming convention) I think this is more reporters taking the opportunity to ask him questions than it is love staging some sort of espn drama show.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2014, 08:32:47 PM »

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to everyone who wants to nix a kevin love deal because "he isn't kevin garnett," i think we have to place more realistic expectations here. not every trade a franchise makes is going to have the profound impact on talent level, culture, and accountability that the KG trade did, so it's unfair to seek out another deal of that caliber. plus, lets be honest, the celtics were able to land a player of KG's ilk because of a particular set of circumstances and the fact that he was at the end of his prime. you can't just compare a 31-year-old KG one-to-one to a 25-year-old KL. you could argue that the perceived gap in talent is bridged by the fact that the team that lands KL potentially gets SIX more years of prime production out of him before he reaches the same point in his career that KG started reeling off title runs. maybe he'll never top out at KG's level (22nd all-time on simmons' pyramid), but maybe he's more the paul pierce of this equation. maybe landing love puts the team one piece away from true title contention. and lest we forget, pierce's legacy is completely different now than what it would have been had KG never arrived. heck, paul pierce's career may have ended up similar to kevin love's current trajectory if garnett never walked through that door. the point is, context and surrounding cast have SO MUCH to do with the general perception of who and what a player is in this league. i wouldn't undervalue love just because he doesn't appear to be the straw that stirs the drink. maybe, like pierce, he's the vermouth that gives the drink some punch.

and in that case, though it is tempting to think of what these draft picks COULD become, i think the proven commodity here is a low-risk move. i mean, deal the wolves four firsts plus sullinger, and even if sully turns into al jefferson and one of those firsts turns into dame lillard, i don't think anyone will look back and say "oh yeah, the celts were naive and totally got FLEECED on that deal, because we all saw what was coming." i can live with those odds.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2014, 08:42:25 PM »

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to everyone who wants to nix a kevin love deal because "he isn't kevin garnett," i think we have to place more realistic expectations here. not every trade a franchise makes is going to have the profound impact on talent level, culture, and accountability that the KG trade did, so it's unfair to seek out another deal of that caliber. plus, lets be honest, the celtics were able to land a player of KG's ilk because of a particular set of circumstances and the fact that he was at the end of his prime. you can't just compare a 31-year-old KG one-to-one to a 25-year-old KL. you could argue that the perceived gap in talent is bridged by the fact that the team that lands KL potentially gets SIX more years of prime production out of him before he reaches the same point in his career that KG started reeling off title runs. maybe he'll never top out at KG's level (22nd all-time on simmons' pyramid), but maybe he's more the paul pierce of this equation. maybe landing love puts the team one piece away from true title contention. and lest we forget, pierce's legacy is completely different now than what it would have been had KG never arrived. heck, paul pierce's career may have ended up similar to kevin love's current trajectory if garnett never walked through that door. the point is, context and surrounding cast have SO MUCH to do with the general perception of who and what a player is in this league. i wouldn't undervalue love just because he doesn't appear to be the straw that stirs the drink. maybe, like pierce, he's the vermouth that gives the drink some punch.

and in that case, though it is tempting to think of what these draft picks COULD become, i think the proven commodity here is a low-risk move. i mean, deal the wolves four firsts plus sullinger, and even if sully turns into al jefferson and one of those firsts turns into dame lillard, i don't think anyone will look back and say "oh yeah, the celts were naive and totally got FLEECED on that deal, because we all saw what was coming." i can live with those odds.

What if Sully alone is "Kevin Love"? Mistake or nah? I'm not arguing that Sully will be as good as Love but I think he already shows that he can be KLove-lite coming off of back surgery. I think the only thing stopping Sully from not being shipped from someone like Love is how hard he works. I just wish we weren't rushing into Love, like give Sully a chance to get fit and see how hard he works... wait til midseason. I know that means we don't have #6 and #17 but we have many assets to work it out. Matter of fact, I just hope TW just hold onto him instead of bowing to his demands... it's not like those other teams will have the same assets left either and I believe we have the best future assets left after the draft (we can't compete player-wise with some reported teams anyway).
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Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2014, 08:42:57 PM »

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Waiting for draft day is dragging. Reloading twitter accounts, sports news, and celticsblog. I keep waiting for a wojo bomb tweets but i think the week of the draft and the the night of the draft is that we hopefully we can move on knowing we trade for kevin love or do we end up drafting a young player

I really hope we get love.

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2014, 08:43:51 PM »

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Flaks allowed @thebiglead five questions with Kevin Love, but with one stipulation: no questions about the #Celtics http://thebiglead.com/2014/06/11/five-questions-with-kevin-love-of-the-minnesota-timberwolves/ ?

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2014, 08:45:18 PM »

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Flaks allowed @thebiglead five questions with Kevin Love, but with one stipulation: no questions about the #Celtics http://thebiglead.com/2014/06/11/five-questions-with-kevin-love-of-the-minnesota-timberwolves/ ?

See i find that odd they dont ask him about the celtics, it makes me feel this deal is in the works or done

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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2014, 08:46:15 PM »

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Baxter Holmes ‏@BaxterHolmes  26m
Flaks allowed @thebiglead five questions with Kevin Love, but with one stipulation: no questions about the #Celtics http://thebiglead.com/2014/06/11/five-questions-with-kevin-love-of-the-minnesota-timberwolves/ ?

See i find that odd they dont ask him about the celtics, it makes me feel this deal is in the works or done

Very strange..we shall see.

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2014, 08:47:49 PM »

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I'd rather him be a Laker.  We need somebody who plays both ends of the court....Especially if we're mortgaging the future for the player.

So you want him to play next to Kobe and possibly Carmelo? That's a contending team right there...probably a top 3 team in the West again.

I'd like to see Kevin Love on the Celtics and Carmelo Anthony on the Lakers.
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Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2014, 08:51:55 PM »

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I'd rather him be a Laker.  We need somebody who plays both ends of the court....Especially if we're mortgaging the future for the player.

So you want him to play next to Kobe and possibly Carmelo? That's a contending team right there...probably a top 3 team in the West again.

I'd like to see Kevin Love on the Celtics and Carmelo Anthony on the Lakers.
I'd like both

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2014, 09:01:44 PM »

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I'd rather him be a Laker.  We need somebody who plays both ends of the court....Especially if we're mortgaging the future for the player.

Yeah....we don't have any use for good players around here!!!!

Typical comment from you, as you have completely misrepresented what the OP wrote, and then attacked him on the basis of YOUR misrepresentation. 

Re: Kevin Love on Sportsnation on ESPN News right now
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2014, 09:07:26 PM »

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to everyone who wants to nix a kevin love deal because "he isn't kevin garnett," i think we have to place more realistic expectations here. not every trade a franchise makes is going to have the profound impact on talent level, culture, and accountability that the KG trade did, so it's unfair to seek out another deal of that caliber. plus, lets be honest, the celtics were able to land a player of KG's ilk because of a particular set of circumstances and the fact that he was at the end of his prime. you can't just compare a 31-year-old KG one-to-one to a 25-year-old KL. you could argue that the perceived gap in talent is bridged by the fact that the team that lands KL potentially gets SIX more years of prime production out of him before he reaches the same point in his career that KG started reeling off title runs. maybe he'll never top out at KG's level (22nd all-time on simmons' pyramid), but maybe he's more the paul pierce of this equation. maybe landing love puts the team one piece away from true title contention. and lest we forget, pierce's legacy is completely different now than what it would have been had KG never arrived. heck, paul pierce's career may have ended up similar to kevin love's current trajectory if garnett never walked through that door. the point is, context and surrounding cast have SO MUCH to do with the general perception of who and what a player is in this league. i wouldn't undervalue love just because he doesn't appear to be the straw that stirs the drink. maybe, like pierce, he's the vermouth that gives the drink some punch.

and in that case, though it is tempting to think of what these draft picks COULD become, i think the proven commodity here is a low-risk move. i mean, deal the wolves four firsts plus sullinger, and even if sully turns into al jefferson and one of those firsts turns into dame lillard, i don't think anyone will look back and say "oh yeah, the celts were naive and totally got FLEECED on that deal, because we all saw what was coming." i can live with those odds.

What if Sully alone is "Kevin Love"? Mistake or nah? I'm not arguing that Sully will be as good as Love but I think he already shows that he can be KLove-lite coming off of back surgery. I think the only thing stopping Sully from not being shipped from someone like Love is how hard he works. I just wish we weren't rushing into Love, like give Sully a chance to get fit and see how hard he works... wait til midseason. I know that means we don't have #6 and #17 but we have many assets to work it out. Matter of fact, I just hope TW just hold onto him instead of bowing to his demands... it's not like those other teams will have the same assets left either and I believe we have the best future assets left after the draft (we can't compete player-wise with some reported teams anyway).

Although I doubt that either JS or KO will become perennial All-Stars, there is good reason to believe that both are very much works-in-progress and will continue to develop.  In a year or two, we'll be talking about how fortunate we were to avoid overpaying badly for KL when we already had two very good young players at that position.