Can the Need for a Go-To Scorer Be Addressed By a Bench Player?

[timpiker]

I think this is the #1 thing Danny needs to figure out....

[Who]

Jeff Green?

I like Jeff Green as the 4th option behind K-Love, Player X and Rondo.

I think Jeff Green could work as a 3rd option on a team where the two guys in front of him are prolific scorers. However, with Rondo as one the two main guys and content to only score 12-15ppg, I think Boston needs a stronger option than Jeff Green as the next best shot-creator on team.

So I'd view J.Green as the 4th option on future Celtics team. A better 4th option than vast majority of teams which will be necessary (to provide balance) if Boston's 2nd/3rd options after K-Love aren't big time scorers.

I don't know.  I think if we re-sign Avery that he and Green could be a good 3A and 3B, as it were.  Avery is turning into a very capable catch and shoot player.  Jeff can catch and shoot a little as well, plus he can put the ball on the floor and create his own offense some. 

If we could manage to land Love and Asik, as everyone is hoping for, I think that Rondo, Bradley, Green, Love, and Asik would make a very formidable lineup. 

Between Love, Bradley, and Green, they scored just over 59 points a game between them last season.  With a distributor like Rondo, I'd be very happy with that starting lineup's offensive potential.  That team looks fairly good on paper defensively, as well.

I think that firepower is good enough for the Celtics to be a 50+ win team (largely due to strength of defense + rebounding) and win a playoff series or two ...

But I don't think it's good enough for the Celtics to win another Championship with.

[BballTim]

Jeff Green?

I like Jeff Green as the 4th option behind K-Love, Player X and Rondo.

I think Jeff Green could work as a 3rd option on a team where the two guys in front of him are prolific scorers. However, with Rondo as one the two main guys and content to only score 12-15ppg, I think Boston needs a stronger option than Jeff Green as the next best shot-creator on team.

So I'd view J.Green as the 4th option on future Celtics team. A better 4th option than vast majority of teams which will be necessary (to provide balance) if Boston's 2nd/3rd options after K-Love aren't big time scorers.

I don't know.  I think if we re-sign Avery that he and Green could be a good 3A and 3B, as it were.  Avery is turning into a very capable catch and shoot player.  Jeff can catch and shoot a little as well, plus he can put the ball on the floor and create his own offense some. 

If we could manage to land Love and Asik, as everyone is hoping for, I think that Rondo, Bradley, Green, Love, and Asik would make a very formidable lineup. 

Between Love, Bradley, and Green, they scored just over 59 points a game between them last season.  With a distributor like Rondo, I'd be very happy with that starting lineup's offensive potential.  That team looks fairly good on paper defensively, as well.

I think that firepower is good enough for the Celtics to be a 50+ win team (largely due to strength of defense + rebounding) and win a playoff series or two ...

But I don't think it's good enough for the Celtics to win another Championship with.

  Maybe, but the team's all in their 20s and you still have a pile of draft picks to trade or use.

[Who]

Jeff Green?

I like Jeff Green as the 4th option behind K-Love, Player X and Rondo.

I think Jeff Green could work as a 3rd option on a team where the two guys in front of him are prolific scorers. However, with Rondo as one the two main guys and content to only score 12-15ppg, I think Boston needs a stronger option than Jeff Green as the next best shot-creator on team.

So I'd view J.Green as the 4th option on future Celtics team. A better 4th option than vast majority of teams which will be necessary (to provide balance) if Boston's 2nd/3rd options after K-Love aren't big time scorers.

I don't know.  I think if we re-sign Avery that he and Green could be a good 3A and 3B, as it were.  Avery is turning into a very capable catch and shoot player.  Jeff can catch and shoot a little as well, plus he can put the ball on the floor and create his own offense some. 

If we could manage to land Love and Asik, as everyone is hoping for, I think that Rondo, Bradley, Green, Love, and Asik would make a very formidable lineup. 

Between Love, Bradley, and Green, they scored just over 59 points a game between them last season.  With a distributor like Rondo, I'd be very happy with that starting lineup's offensive potential.  That team looks fairly good on paper defensively, as well.

I think that firepower is good enough for the Celtics to be a 50+ win team (largely due to strength of defense + rebounding) and win a playoff series or two ...

But I don't think it's good enough for the Celtics to win another Championship with.

  Maybe, but the team's all in their 20s and you still have a pile of draft picks to trade or use.

Absolutely - and they'll need to trade those assets to bring in another scorer.

[DarkAzcura]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves. We'd definitely have enough scoring and ball handlers for a successful offense (at least better than anything we've had here since '09). The defense would remain a question mark, but I could see Bradley and Asik bring us to at least a top 15 defense. Maybe I'm selling the defense a bit short considering we were top 10 in that area without a rim protector for a good few months.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

[hpantazo]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

Oh, I don't think he even has to try. If they are trading Love, they will certainly ask the other team to take on Martin's salary.

[DarkAzcura]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

Oh, I don't think he even has to try. If they are trading Love, they will certainly ask the other team to take on Martin's salary.

Then there's our go-to scorer off the bench. Martin is talented enough to play a Jamal Crawford role still in terms of scoring. If Pierce came back, I'd literally have no worries about scoring in the 4th quarter between Pierce, Love, and Martin. Green and Bradley have shown to be pretty darn clutch shooters in the 4th too, imo. Not iso guys but good fall back guys.

[hpantazo]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

Oh, I don't think he even has to try. If they are trading Love, they will certainly ask the other team to take on Martin's salary.

Then there's our go-to scorer off the bench. Martin is talented enough to play a Jamal Crawford role still in terms of scoring. If Pierce came back, I'd literally have no worries about scoring in the 4th quarter between Pierce, Love, and Martin. Green and Bradley have shown to be pretty darn clutch shooters in the 4th too, imo. Not iso guys but good fall back guys.

I agree, our scoring would be all set. The only concerns are that it would severely limit our ability for other moves if we took on Martin, and also Martin is another poor defensive player.

[DarkAzcura]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

Oh, I don't think he even has to try. If they are trading Love, they will certainly ask the other team to take on Martin's salary.

Then there's our go-to scorer off the bench. Martin is talented enough to play a Jamal Crawford role still in terms of scoring. If Pierce came back, I'd literally have no worries about scoring in the 4th quarter between Pierce, Love, and Martin. Green and Bradley have shown to be pretty darn clutch shooters in the 4th too, imo. Not iso guys but good fall back guys.

I agree, our scoring would be all set. The only concerns are that it would severely limit our ability for other moves if we took on Martin, and also Martin is another poor defensive player.

Martin is not a good defensive player, but he's also never really played with a defensive minded coach. Hopefully the system we have here can cover up the flaws of a guy like Martin and Love if we have Rondo, Bradley, Green, and Asik. Not everyone has to be a plus defender, imo. Stevens almost made Crawford look like a reasonable defender, heh. I'm still shocked our defense ranked so highly this past season (for some months) with virtually no centers or rim protectors to speak of.

[hpantazo]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

Oh, I don't think he even has to try. If they are trading Love, they will certainly ask the other team to take on Martin's salary.

Then there's our go-to scorer off the bench. Martin is talented enough to play a Jamal Crawford role still in terms of scoring. If Pierce came back, I'd literally have no worries about scoring in the 4th quarter between Pierce, Love, and Martin. Green and Bradley have shown to be pretty darn clutch shooters in the 4th too, imo. Not iso guys but good fall back guys.

I agree, our scoring would be all set. The only concerns are that it would severely limit our ability for other moves if we took on Martin, and also Martin is another poor defensive player.

Martin is not a good defensive player, but he's also never really played with a defensive minded coach. Hopefully the system we have here can cover up the flaws of a guy like Martin and Love if we have Rondo, Bradley, Green, and Asik. Not everyone has to be a plus defender, imo. Stevens almost made Crawford look like a reasonable defender, heh. I'm still shocked our defense ranked so highly this past season (for some months) with virtually no centers or rim protectors to speak of.

Possibly, Stevens did a great job defensively with the roster he had, but it's still asking a lot of Martin considering he is a rail thin dude who, despite his best efforts, would likely get physically overpowered and abused by a lot of SGs.

[DarkAzcura]

I'm willing to bet Ainge will try to get Martin back in any Love trade if it is reasonable to do so.

Rondo
Bradley/Martin
Green
Love

Try to get someone like Asik, and then I'd like to see what Pierce does in the coming weeks if we pull off these moves.

Lot's of ifs, but it's all possible.

Oh, I don't think he even has to try. If they are trading Love, they will certainly ask the other team to take on Martin's salary.

Then there's our go-to scorer off the bench. Martin is talented enough to play a Jamal Crawford role still in terms of scoring. If Pierce came back, I'd literally have no worries about scoring in the 4th quarter between Pierce, Love, and Martin. Green and Bradley have shown to be pretty darn clutch shooters in the 4th too, imo. Not iso guys but good fall back guys.

I agree, our scoring would be all set. The only concerns are that it would severely limit our ability for other moves if we took on Martin, and also Martin is another poor defensive player.

Martin is not a good defensive player, but he's also never really played with a defensive minded coach. Hopefully the system we have here can cover up the flaws of a guy like Martin and Love if we have Rondo, Bradley, Green, and Asik. Not everyone has to be a plus defender, imo. Stevens almost made Crawford look like a reasonable defender, heh. I'm still shocked our defense ranked so highly this past season (for some months) with virtually no centers or rim protectors to speak of.

Possibly, Stevens did a great job defensively with the roster he had, but it's still asking a lot of Martin considering he is a rail thin dude who, despite his best efforts, would likely get physically overpowered and abused by a lot of SGs.

True, but I'm not sure he'll be required to play a ton of minutes here anyway. If we got Martin, I'd like to see him as a 25 MPG guy. He'd still score 15 PPG easily in that timeframe and give us the scoring boost we'd likely need. He'd be the ultimate microwave player, haha. Rondo and Bradley would still see the majority of minutes in the backcourt, imo.

[cman88]

I think K love is your go to scorer...I mean he only averaged 26ppg last year...

if KG retires this offseason, I think the C's would have a very good chance of bringing Pierce back especially if they put together a competitive team that can make noise in the east