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Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2014, 09:54:18 PM »

Offline greg_kite

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I would rebuild in 3 moves:
1 - Trade #6, Sully, Bass, Bogans & Anthony for Love and Martin

2 - Trade Rondo to L.A. for # 7 and Pau Gasol (signed at around 9 mil for three years - L.A. could do this to match the salaries)

3 - Trade # 7 & a re-signed Humphries to Toronto in a sign and trade for Kyle Lowry, who is UFA.  The Celtics don't have the cap room so they give Toronto an asset for taking on another year of Humphries in the $10 million range.  If the # 7 is too much of an asset for Lowry then you could replace Humphries with Gerald Wallace as a better salary dump

Depth Chart
Lowry/Bradley
Martin/Chris Johnson or #17 pick
Green/Wallace
Love/ Olynyk
Gasol/Iverson

Bradley would be the main backup combo guard and Olynyk would be the main backup big at the 4 or 5.  Everyone but Wallace can shoot and only Martin is a poor defender, which Bradley can cover when necessary.
That's a #2 seed in the East with the size to give Miami problems

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2014, 09:59:08 PM »

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If we get Love we HAVE TO  get Sanders. I don't understand the fascination with Asik, he is horrible and has no heart.
I don't see how someone could love Sanders and hate Asik.  Sanders has no brain.

I'd suggest Chris Kaman, but he's too cowardly.

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2014, 10:04:50 PM »

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Bradley would be the main backup combo guard

Bradley is a SG only, not a combo guard.  People should quit trying to give him PG minutes.
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Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2014, 10:06:31 PM »

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I would rebuild in 3 moves:
1 - Trade #6, Sully, Bass, Bogans & Anthony for Love and Martin

2 - Trade Rondo to L.A. for # 7 and Pau Gasol (signed at around 9 mil for three years - L.A. could do this to match the salaries)

3 - Trade # 7 & a re-signed Humphries to Toronto in a sign and trade for Kyle Lowry, who is UFA.  The Celtics don't have the cap room so they give Toronto an asset for taking on another year of Humphries in the $10 million range.  If the # 7 is too much of an asset for Lowry then you could replace Humphries with Gerald Wallace as a better salary dump

Depth Chart
Lowry/Bradley
Martin/Chris Johnson or #17 pick
Green/Wallace
Love/ Olynyk
Gasol/Iverson

Bradley would be the main backup combo guard and Olynyk would be the main backup big at the 4 or 5.  Everyone but Wallace can shoot and only Martin is a poor defender, which Bradley can cover when necessary.
That's a #2 seed in the East with the size to give Miami problems

 Toronto won 48 games last year and are a team on the rise.  Why would they trade away their point guard who sorted 21 points per game for the #7 pick and a mediocre player?

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2014, 10:17:32 PM »

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I would rebuild in 3 moves:
1 - Trade #6, Sully, Bass, Bogans & Anthony for Love and Martin

2 - Trade Rondo to L.A. for # 7 and Pau Gasol (signed at around 9 mil for three years - L.A. could do this to match the salaries)

3 - Trade # 7 & a re-signed Humphries to Toronto in a sign and trade for Kyle Lowry, who is UFA.  The Celtics don't have the cap room so they give Toronto an asset for taking on another year of Humphries in the $10 million range.  If the # 7 is too much of an asset for Lowry then you could replace Humphries with Gerald Wallace as a better salary dump

Depth Chart
Lowry/Bradley
Martin/Chris Johnson or #17 pick
Green/Wallace
Love/ Olynyk
Gasol/Iverson

Bradley would be the main backup combo guard and Olynyk would be the main backup big at the 4 or 5.  Everyone but Wallace can shoot and only Martin is a poor defender, which Bradley can cover when necessary.
That's a #2 seed in the East with the size to give Miami problems

 Toronto won 48 games last year and are a team on the rise.  Why would they trade away their point guard who sorted 21 points per game for the #7 pick and a mediocre player?
First, he's a free agent and can go where he wants.  Second, they'd be getting the #7 pick in the draft.  He could leave them and they wouldn't get anything.  At least here they get the # 7 pick in the draft and they only have to pay Humphries for a year.

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2014, 10:20:03 PM »

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Bradley would be the main backup combo guard

Bradley is a SG only, not a combo guard.  People should quit trying to give him PG minutes.
Lowry would be getting about 35-40 minutes a game anyway so it would only be spot duty.  Most of Bradley's minutes would be split with Martin.  Bayless could also be brought back as a backup PG. 

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2014, 10:23:01 PM »

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Can we talk about Cap space?

Say we traded Green + Bass + Sully + #6 + #17 + future picks for Love.

Say we didn't re-sign Avery.

You now have under contract:

Love - 16 mil
Rondo - 13 mil
Wallace - 10 mil
Joel Anthony - 4 mil
Oly - 2 mil

Isn't that 45 mil?... The salary cap is 63.2 mil...   Surely someone will explain why I'm wrong, but wouldn't that give us cap space to go after Melo?

The cap holds thing is confusing to me, but I've seen people incorrectly explain it in the past. 

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2014, 10:25:38 PM »

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Can we talk about Cap space?

Say we traded Green + Bass + Sully + #6 + #17 + future picks for Love.

Say we didn't re-sign Avery.

You now have under contract:

Love - 16 mil
Rondo - 13 mil
Wallace - 10 mil
Joel Anthony - 4 mil
Oly - 2 mil

Isn't that 45 mil?... The salary cap is 63.2 mil...   Surely someone will explain why I'm wrong, but wouldn't that give us cap space to go after Melo?

The cap holds thing is confusing to me, but I've seen people incorrectly explain it in the past.

cap holds for empty roster spots would bring our salary up to about 50 mil

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2014, 10:27:15 PM »

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I think this year they could add Sanders or Asik via trade. They could do a sign and trade for Greg Monroe or Gordon Hayward (unlikely).

To me the best course of action would be to deal Green and Wallace then wait until next year to sign Marc Gasol or DeAndre Jordan as a free agent. Then we could add to those three with all the picks we will have left after the Love deal.
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Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2014, 10:28:12 PM »

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Can we talk about Cap space?

Say we traded Green + Bass + Sully + #6 + #17 + future picks for Love.

Say we didn't re-sign Avery.

You now have under contract:

Love - 16 mil
Rondo - 13 mil
Wallace - 10 mil
Joel Anthony - 4 mil
Oly - 2 mil

Isn't that 45 mil?... The salary cap is 63.2 mil...   Surely someone will explain why I'm wrong, but wouldn't that give us cap space to go after Melo?

The cap holds thing is confusing to me, but I've seen people incorrectly explain it in the past.
Minnesota is over the cap and would need to send back more salary to take all those guys.  Love makes around 14 mil, Green 9, Bass 7.  Plus they still have Bogans on the books, though I think it's only partially Guaranteed.  Plus the draft picks have about a $5 million "cap hold" so Minnesota would probably have to send back even more in salary, which would increase the C's total salaries.

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2014, 10:33:36 PM »

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I would rebuild in 3 moves:
1 - Trade #6, Sully, Bass, Bogans & Anthony for Love and Martin

2 - Trade Rondo to L.A. for # 7 and Pau Gasol (signed at around 9 mil for three years - L.A. could do this to match the salaries)

3 - Trade # 7 & a re-signed Humphries to Toronto in a sign and trade for Kyle Lowry, who is UFA.  The Celtics don't have the cap room so they give Toronto an asset for taking on another year of Humphries in the $10 million range.  If the # 7 is too much of an asset for Lowry then you could replace Humphries with Gerald Wallace as a better salary dump

Depth Chart
Lowry/Bradley
Martin/Chris Johnson or #17 pick
Green/Wallace
Love/ Olynyk
Gasol/Iverson

Bradley would be the main backup combo guard and Olynyk would be the main backup big at the 4 or 5.  Everyone but Wallace can shoot and only Martin is a poor defender, which Bradley can cover when necessary.
That's a #2 seed in the East with the size to give Miami problems

 It's doubtful the team would be good right out of the gate. By the time they got their act together Pau would be slowing down more than he is and Lowry would probably have worn out his welcome like he did everywhere else.

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2014, 10:35:38 PM »

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Marc Gasol and Hayward would be nice...

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2014, 10:41:17 PM »

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probably just add Asik and maybe the #17 pick if they still have it after Love deal

Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2014, 07:14:28 PM »

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If we get Love we HAVE TO  get Sanders. I don't understand the fascination with Asik, he is horrible and has no heart.
I don't see how someone could love Sanders and hate Asik.  Sanders has no brain.

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Re: What else can C's realistically add if they land Love
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2014, 08:15:33 PM »

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Realistically I think our best hope is that we land Asik for next to nothing and are not only able to keep our number 17 pick, but somehow manage to select a future starter or stud 6th man.  PJ Hairston comes to mind. 

If we are able to land Love surely some free agents will be eager/willing to play here with Rondo/Love.