Kevin Love (or Carmello) Makes No Sense

[celtsfanforlife]

The Celtics are about 1 thing, right?  Championships.  I watched the Heat game last night and one thing became clear.  The Celts will not be winning a title with Lebron is in his prime.  Not with Kevin Love and not with Carmello Anthony.  Lebron will always be able to attract good role players to his team, wherever he goes.

The Celtics should be planning for the time when Lebron is past his prime.  In other words, don't trade multiple draft picks for a chance to make the second round of the playoffs now.

Keep making picks, keep developing young players.  This way the Cs will be well positioned as a contender in 3-5 years, when Lebron is beatable.  He is not beatable right now.

[gpap]

The Celtics are about 1 thing, right?  Championships.  I watched the Heat game last night and one thing became clear.  The Celts will not be winning a title with Lebron is in his prime.  Not with Kevin Love and not with Carmello Anthony.  Lebron will always be able to attract good role players to his team, wherever he goes.

The Celtics should be planning for the time when Lebron is past his prime.  In other words, don't trade multiple draft picks for a chance to make the second round of the playoffs now.

Keep making picks, keep developing young players.  This way the Cs will be well positioned as a contender in 3-5 years, when Lebron is beatable.  He is not beatable right now.

Many people make this argument against trading picks for an all-star and though you bring up good points, I disagree.

I just refuse to believe that Lebron is not beatable.

No doubt he's the best player on the league right now. However, right now he also has the perfect mixture of talent around him.

Wade and Bosh are still very effective and even the complemantary guys like Ray, Battier and Birdman are firing on all cylinders.

In other words, right now EVERYTHING is going right for Miami.

If one or two pieces to the puzzle crumble or fall apart, it has a domino effect on Lebron and he is then more prone to being beat.

If Bosh leaves for free agency, if Wade suddenly becomes a part-time player because of his knees, if Ray and/or Battier retire then suddenly Miami is not the same.

Also, I just think both Love and Melo are much better players than people give them credit for and are bound to be champions themselves.

In my eyes, no one is unbeatable.

Also, let's not forget though Miami is killing Indiana right now, they'll still have to get through San Antonio.

[D.o.s.]

The Celtics are about 1 thing, right?  Championships.  I watched the Heat game last night and one thing became clear.  The Celts will not be winning a title with Lebron is in his prime.  Not with Kevin Love and not with Carmello Anthony.  Lebron will always be able to attract good role players to his team, wherever he goes.

The Celtics should be planning for the time when Lebron is past his prime.  In other words, don't trade multiple draft picks for a chance to make the second round of the playoffs now.

Keep making picks, keep developing young players.  This way the Cs will be well positioned as a contender in 3-5 years, when Lebron is beatable.  He is not beatable right now.

Except that Durant is four years younger than LeBron, so one assumes that in four years or so, when LeBron is slowing down, we'll be in Durant's basketball prime, if not his athletic one. So then maybe we should rebuild for after KD's prime... at which point it will probably be Anthony Davis's league...

Rinse, lather, repeat.

[celtsfanforlife]

Not worried about KD.  Lebron is the MJ of this era.  I am not  interested in being the Jazz or Knicks of that era, best case.

[MBunge]

The Celtics are about 1 thing, right?  Championships.  I watched the Heat game last night and one thing became clear.  The Celts will not be winning a title with Lebron is in his prime.  Not with Kevin Love and not with Carmello Anthony.  Lebron will always be able to attract good role players to his team, wherever he goes.

The Celtics should be planning for the time when Lebron is past his prime.  In other words, don't trade multiple draft picks for a chance to make the second round of the playoffs now.

Keep making picks, keep developing young players.  This way the Cs will be well positioned as a contender in 3-5 years, when Lebron is beatable.  He is not beatable right now.

Dallas beat Miami with Jason Terry turning LeBron inside out in the 4th quarter.  The Spurs also had them beat before an epic choke job which no one in the media will call a choke job because it's the Spurs.

Mike

[McHales Pits]

My goodness...is that what we have come to?

LeBron is unbeatable so lets not waste assets and continue to stink until he looks beatable? What about when Durant hits his prime? What about Anthony Davis? What about the player after him?

This OP is just resigned to lose. What about the spirit of competition? Why don't we get some players to make this team relevant and competitive?

[gpap]

The Celtics are about 1 thing, right?  Championships.  I watched the Heat game last night and one thing became clear.  The Celts will not be winning a title with Lebron is in his prime.  Not with Kevin Love and not with Carmello Anthony.  Lebron will always be able to attract good role players to his team, wherever he goes.

The Celtics should be planning for the time when Lebron is past his prime.  In other words, don't trade multiple draft picks for a chance to make the second round of the playoffs now.

Keep making picks, keep developing young players.  This way the Cs will be well positioned as a contender in 3-5 years, when Lebron is beatable.  He is not beatable right now.

Dallas beat Miami with Jason Terry turning LeBron inside out in the 4th quarter.  The Spurs also had them beat before an epic choke job which no one in the media will call a choke job because it's the Spurs.

Mike

Very good point. Last year, the Spurs beat themselves in the finals.

Also (and this is not directed at the OP but just a general question), if we are just going to assume that Lebron is going to dominate the leauge in the next 3-4 years, then why are we watching?

[celtsfanforlife]

I want to be the next dynasty, not play second (or third or fourth) fiddle to the current dynasty.

[gpap]

I want to be the next dynasty, not play second (or third or fourth) fiddle to the current dynasty.

Understandable. Not sure if anyone will agree with this statement, but I think it's safe to say Lebron, Bosh and Wade teaming up has been the worse thing that could've ever happened to the NBA.

It's shrunk down the competition from other teams, led the league to favor and feed the Heat monster because it's making the league so much money and thus has other fan bases feeling resigned to "we're not going to compete for the next 3-5 years anyway."

I mean in the 80s, imagine if Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan all decided to play on the same team. How do you think the rest of the league would've felt about that?

[Clench123]

The Celtics are about 1 thing, right?  Championships.  I watched the Heat game last night and one thing became clear.  The Celts will not be winning a title with Lebron is in his prime.  Not with Kevin Love and not with Carmello Anthony.  Lebron will always be able to attract good role players to his team, wherever he goes.

The Celtics should be planning for the time when Lebron is past his prime.  In other words, don't trade multiple draft picks for a chance to make the second round of the playoffs now.

Keep making picks, keep developing young players.  This way the Cs will be well positioned as a contender in 3-5 years, when Lebron is beatable.  He is not beatable right now.

I'm sorry but this is an awful idea.  So every time the league has a one-in-a-lifetime player, every other team should just cower and lay down huh?

[celtsfanforlife]

No. Not cower and lie down. We are at a crossroads here.  Just saying that it makes no sense to sacrifice our future for the present at this time.  I want to be the next Heat team.  That happens by drafting well at 6, getting a little lucky in next year's draft or getting lucky with the Nets picks, and developing young players.  It does not happen by trading for Kevin Love.

[staticcc]

I want to be the next dynasty, not play second (or third or fourth) fiddle to the current dynasty.

Understandable. Not sure if anyone will agree with this statement, but I think it's safe to say Lebron, Bosh and Wade teaming up has been the worse thing that could've ever happened to the NBA.

It's shrunk down the competition from other teams, led the league to favor and feed the Heat monster because it's making the league so much money and thus has other fan bases feeling resigned to "we're not going to compete for the next 3-5 years anyway."

I mean in the 80s, imagine if Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan all decided to play on the same team. How do you think the rest of the league would've felt about that?

Are you comparing Magic and Bird to Wade and Bosh!? Really?

[gpap]

I want to be the next dynasty, not play second (or third or fourth) fiddle to the current dynasty.

Understandable. Not sure if anyone will agree with this statement, but I think it's safe to say Lebron, Bosh and Wade teaming up has been the worse thing that could've ever happened to the NBA.

It's shrunk down the competition from other teams, led the league to favor and feed the Heat monster because it's making the league so much money and thus has other fan bases feeling resigned to "we're not going to compete for the next 3-5 years anyway."

I mean in the 80s, imagine if Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan all decided to play on the same team. How do you think the rest of the league would've felt about that?

Are you comparing Magic and Bird to Wade and Bosh!? Really?

Please note the context with which I said it. The league's best players all teaming up on one team.

[Celtics18]

Personally, I couldn't disagree more strongly with the sentiments expressed in the OP.  I want to see the Celtics put out a team that is as competitive as possible as soon as possible.  Titles aren't guaranteed, no matter how strong a team you put together. 

To me, the fact that Lebron James is out there dominating is all the more reason to try to put together a team that might have a shot (however long that shot is) of dethroning his Heat. 

I mean how pathetic would be it be if every team in the league just gave up because they didn't think they could beat the mighty King James?

My answer is:  Very pathetic. 

[SHAQATTACK]

No. Not cower and lie down. We are at a crossroads here.  Just saying that it makes no sense to sacrifice our future for the present at this time.  I want to be the next Heat team.  That happens by drafting well at 6, getting a little lucky in next year's draft or getting lucky with the Nets picks, and developing young players.  It does not happen by trading for Kevin Love.

I don't see this at all.

This is leaving too much to luck.  If and when you can get a young starlike Love.  You do it .....make it so ...if all possible...they are rare and the right circumstances rarely fall to the Celtics.

What you are doing is floating along and hoping the Celtics stumble on a gem....out of a pile of gravel.