Disappointing comments from Paul George

[D.o.s.]

i'm not making excuses for George or the pacers because they suck regardless of the fouls. but I mentioned in the game thread "I saw LeBron get double-teamed, turn around and push George 2 feet." while the ref was standing right there and no call.

I know no one likes to hear "don't blame the refs" or "cry about fouls" but this has been the worst playoffs for refs imo since the kings/lakers.

It's interesting -- I don't recall reading a post like this from you during Game 1.

[gpap]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

[Moranis]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

Hibbert makes no sense for Boston in that situation.

[gpap]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

Hibbert makes no sense for Boston in that situation.

Just sayin', Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard and I could easily see the Pacers trying to unload Hibbert.

I think the question then becomes, does Hibbert get it together with a new team or does he remain as ineffective as he is right now?

[GreenWarrior]

i'm not making excuses for George or the pacers because they suck regardless of the fouls. but I mentioned in the game thread "I saw LeBron get double-teamed, turn around and push George 2 feet." while the ref was standing right there and no call.

I know no one likes to hear "don't blame the refs" or "cry about fouls" but this has been the worst playoffs for refs imo since the kings/lakers.

It's interesting -- I don't recall reading a post like this from you during Game 1.

are you being sarcastic because I've been on the refs this whole post-season?

I have I know. the officiating is a big deal to me because they can be better, they have no reason not to be better, they should be the best out of all the major sports instead they are the most shady. shouldn't happen if they're full-time officials.

but with that said I normally don't like teams/players to complain about the refs. because imo if you let the game come down to officiating you're probably going to lose.

[pearljammer10]

Must be the concussion talking.

[D.o.s.]

i'm not making excuses for George or the pacers because they suck regardless of the fouls. but I mentioned in the game thread "I saw LeBron get double-teamed, turn around and push George 2 feet." while the ref was standing right there and no call.

I know no one likes to hear "don't blame the refs" or "cry about fouls" but this has been the worst playoffs for refs imo since the kings/lakers.

It's interesting -- I don't recall reading a post like this from you during Game 1.

are you being sarcastic because I've been on the refs this whole post-season?

I have I know. the officiating is a big deal to me because they can be better, they have no reason not to be better, they should be the best out of all the major sports instead they are the most shady. shouldn't happen if they're full-time officials.

but with that said I normally don't like teams/players to complain about the refs. because imo if you let the game come down to officiating you're probably going to lose.

No, I just didn't see you post. I agree that the refs should be better -- my personal axe to grind there is an age cap in regards to on-the-floor refereeing.

[pearljammer10]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

Hibbert makes no sense for Boston in that situation.

Just sayin', Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard and I could easily see the Pacers trying to unload Hibbert.

I think the question then becomes, does Hibbert get it together with a new team or does he remain as ineffective as he is right now?

Hibbert really only makes sense for the Celtics is Rondo is still on the team and we are looking at contending on the fly. Hibbert surely can't be a franchise centerpiece on his own, so bringing him on while getting rid of Rondo doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[Moranis]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

Hibbert makes no sense for Boston in that situation.

Just sayin', Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard and I could easily see the Pacers trying to unload Hibbert.

I think the question then becomes, does Hibbert get it together with a new team or does he remain as ineffective as he is right now?

Hibbert really only makes sense for the Celtics is Rondo is still on the team and we are looking at contending on the fly. Hibbert surely can't be a franchise centerpiece on his own, so bringing him on while getting rid of Rondo doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

yeah, that was what I was getting at.  Hibbert makes no sense for Boston without Rondo and a bunch of other win now type moves.  There is no point in paying Hibbert the money he makes on a rebuilding team.  None at all.  I'd much rather pay Monroe that sort of money than Hibbert.

[nacceltic]

In the post game press conference, Paul George blamed tonight's loss on the free throw discrepancy (Miami +17 on the game) and said that he felt Indiana out played Miami.

Anybody who watched that game knows that there is no way Indy out played Miami at all.  The entire game I was texting friends about how lucky Indy was that the deficit was as low as it was.  The only reason the final score was close is because Miami took their foot of the gas pedal in the middle of the 4th quarter when up by 20 points.

Turning the ball over 9 more times than Miami didn't have anything to do with the loss, Paul?

I didn't think George was the type to try to cop out of a loss blaming the refs like that and I was really disappointed.  Shows that he is still a very immature person.  That's the type of thing Lebron would have done a couple years ago.

Completely agree on why Indy lost last night.

We have learned or have been reminded of several things about this Pacers team over the past 2-3 months:

1) Roy Hibbert is still Charmin

2) George Hill is NOT a PG

3) Lance Stephenson is incredibly talented and also a loose cannon

4) The Evan Turner trade ended up being an abomination

5) Paul George, to paraphrase Dennis Green, "Is not who we thought he was"

George still has to grow, big time, as a leader...He has to find balance between being aggressive and too aggressive/forcing offense...George might have the most talent, but the guy that is put on the front line to handle issues and be a leader is David West...It was West who challenged Hibbert during the Washington series.  George's post game comments last night is just the latest example on how he has plenty of room to grow in that department...

We can talk about talent, we can talk about experience...But, the main issue with Indiana is between the ears. They've been incredibly fragile in that area for awhile now.

[action781]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

Hibbert makes no sense for Boston in that situation.

Just sayin', Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard and I could easily see the Pacers trying to unload Hibbert.

I think the question then becomes, does Hibbert get it together with a new team or does he remain as ineffective as he is right now?

Hibbert really only makes sense for the Celtics is Rondo is still on the team and we are looking at contending on the fly. Hibbert surely can't be a franchise centerpiece on his own, so bringing him on while getting rid of Rondo doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I hear what you're saying about bringing him in while getting rid of Rondo... but franchise centerpieces aren't available in a trade for Rondo.  Hibbert is 27 years old, can be a dominant player at his position, and is a classic buy-low candidate right now which is what a smart GM will always do.  If you have that center in place, serviceable-good point guards are much easier to find than good centers.  Kyle Lowry could have been had for a bag of chips last season.

[GreenWarrior]

i'm not making excuses for George or the pacers because they suck regardless of the fouls. but I mentioned in the game thread "I saw LeBron get double-teamed, turn around and push George 2 feet." while the ref was standing right there and no call.

I know no one likes to hear "don't blame the refs" or "cry about fouls" but this has been the worst playoffs for refs imo since the kings/lakers.

It's interesting -- I don't recall reading a post like this from you during Game 1.

are you being sarcastic because I've been on the refs this whole post-season?

I have I know. the officiating is a big deal to me because they can be better, they have no reason not to be better, they should be the best out of all the major sports instead they are the most shady. shouldn't happen if they're full-time officials.

but with that said I normally don't like teams/players to complain about the refs. because imo if you let the game come down to officiating you're probably going to lose.

No, I just didn't see you post. I agree that the refs should be better -- my personal axe to grind there is an age cap in regards to on-the-floor refereeing.

yeah i'm pretty sure I missed game 1...I forget...i'm old. but i'm pretty sure I picked the heat to win in 7...I was wrong, I figured the "Hibbert Dynamic" plus the Pacers want to beat the Heat would have made it a competitive series.

as far as the age cap goes i'm not sure that's relative. during the reg. season I've seen plenty of young refs make bad calls or not make calls they should.

it's sports I don't expect to agree with every call made or not made. but the egregious calls or non-calls that take place right in front of refs is inexcusable and the NBA is losing it's legitimacy as a pro sport and bordering on falling into that "Sports Entertainment" genre.

the last game between the Spurs/Thunder, if the Thunder had lost that game the calls on Perk would have been a pretty big story because they were so egregious. but they won and no ones talking about it. because "Yay! Its a series now".

would not be surprised to see more egregious officiating in the finals. but by then they'll have the Donald Sterling issue to use to gloss over and distract everyone...again.       

[Finkelskyhook]

i'm not making excuses for George or the pacers because they suck regardless of the fouls. but I mentioned in the game thread "I saw LeBron get double-teamed, turn around and push George 2 feet." while the ref was standing right there and no call.

I know no one likes to hear "don't blame the refs" or "cry about fouls" but this has been the worst playoffs for refs imo since the kings/lakers.

It's interesting -- I don't recall reading a post like this from you during Game 1.

are you being sarcastic because I've been on the refs this whole post-season?

I have I know. the officiating is a big deal to me because they can be better, they have no reason not to be better, they should be the best out of all the major sports instead they are the most shady. shouldn't happen if they're full-time officials.

but with that said I normally don't like teams/players to complain about the refs. because imo if you let the game come down to officiating you're probably going to lose.

No, I just didn't see you post. I agree that the refs should be better -- my personal axe to grind there is an age cap in regards to on-the-floor refereeing.

It has to be completely disheartening to watch the best player in the game get ridiculous overt special treatment.  The messiah's travels are so obvious that I played a few of them back to see where the refs were positioned.  The messiah travels in plain sight every time he drives.  It isn't a question of whether or not he's traveling...But how many steps he can get.  Wade's flop was obvious in slow, fast or actual speed. 

I know that a San Antonio-Indiana finals isn't appealing to ratings....But Silver should actually let them play it out on a level playing field.

[Celtics18]

I could definitely see Indiana being interested in Rondo this summer, if Rondo is on the block.

Indy badly needs a point guard.

Like another fan mentioned a while back, suddenly a Rondo for Hibbert trade could make alot of sense for both teams.

Celts need a center, Pacers need a point guard.

Both teams, of course, need a center and a point guard.  The better move for the Celtics would be to get a center to go along with our star point guard, not to trade him in for a center. 

[D.o.s.]

i'm not making excuses for George or the pacers because they suck regardless of the fouls. but I mentioned in the game thread "I saw LeBron get double-teamed, turn around and push George 2 feet." while the ref was standing right there and no call.

I know no one likes to hear "don't blame the refs" or "cry about fouls" but this has been the worst playoffs for refs imo since the kings/lakers.

It's interesting -- I don't recall reading a post like this from you during Game 1.

are you being sarcastic because I've been on the refs this whole post-season?

I have I know. the officiating is a big deal to me because they can be better, they have no reason not to be better, they should be the best out of all the major sports instead they are the most shady. shouldn't happen if they're full-time officials.

but with that said I normally don't like teams/players to complain about the refs. because imo if you let the game come down to officiating you're probably going to lose.

No, I just didn't see you post. I agree that the refs should be better -- my personal axe to grind there is an age cap in regards to on-the-floor refereeing.

yeah i'm pretty sure I missed game 1...I forget...i'm old. but i'm pretty sure I picked the heat to win in 7...I was wrong, I figured the "Hibbert Dynamic" plus the Pacers want to beat the Heat would have made it a competitive series.

as far as the age cap goes i'm not sure that's relative. during the reg. season I've seen plenty of young refs make bad calls or not make calls they should.

it's sports I don't expect to agree with every call made or not made. but the egregious calls or non-calls that take place right in front of refs is inexcusable and the NBA is losing it's legitimacy as a pro sport and bordering on falling into that "Sports Entertainment" genre.

the last game between the Spurs/Thunder, if the Thunder had lost that game the calls on Perk would have been a pretty big story because they were so egregious. but they won and no ones talking about it. because "Yay! Its a series now".

would not be surprised to see more egregious officiating in the finals. but by then they'll have the Donald Sterling issue to use to gloss over and distract everyone...again.       

Game 1, of course, was the game when the Pacers had a +22 free throw advantage over the Heat. I'm not surprised that the conspiracy contingent wasn't louder