Poll: Who do you want at #6?

[hpantazo]

I think it's Gordon if they stay at six.

I see Gordon as a safe pick but with low upside. Saric on the other hand has the highest upside but the biggest risk.

[esel1000]

Marcus Smart, all day every day with Gordon second.

I love his competitiveness, it's the anti Green. Good size, good defender. Very tough. His biggest problem is a consistent jumper but it can be developed.

[Eja117]

Leaning towards Gordon. His athleticism seems off the charts. He could be another Derrick Williams or Gerald Green, but any player can bust. Embiid could be the next Oden. Wiggins could be the next Gerald Green. Jabari could be the next nobody.

They could all bust.  If ya gotta bust you may as well bust on a guy that can jump to the moon.

[Tr1boy]

"His biggest problem is a consistent jumper but it can be developed."

I think his jump shot is not bad actually. Decent form. It's his shot selection that is the problem more than anything

[fitzhickey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxXictCDDqA

Like him a lot now

[crimson_stallion]

Vonleh is definately my #1 pick.

He's got the mobility and outside shooting touch to play PF, and the length, strength, toughness, post game.and shotblocking ability to play center.  Hes got the elite reboumding skills for either position.

I think he's a very low risk player.  Hes got a his attitude so there's little risk of him becoming a demarcus cousins attitude guy.  If his low post game struggles against NBA size then hes got q silky smooth jumper (out to three point range) as a backup, and hes also skilled at gettimg to the line (where he shoots a nice percentage).

His versatile offensive game combined with his great rebounding means he'll most likely be a double-double guy in the nba, and given his age (18) the sky is the limit.

Second choose is Smart, because after Parker he's probably the next best scorer in the top 10,  and Boston could use that extra offensive spark.

[playdream]

Vonleh is definately my #1 pick.

He's got the mobility and outside shooting touch to play PF, and the length, strength, toughness, post game.and shotblocking ability to play center.  Hes got the elite reboumding skills for either position.

I think he's a very low risk player.  Hes got a his attitude so there's little risk of him becoming a demarcus cousins attitude guy.  If his low post game struggles against NBA size then hes got q silky smooth jumper (out to three point range) as a backup, and hes also skilled at gettimg to the line (where he shoots a nice percentage).

His versatile offensive game combined with his great rebounding means he'll most likely be a double-double guy in the nba, and given his age (18) the sky is the limit.

Second choose is Smart, because after Parker he's probably the next best scorer in the top 10,  and Boston could use that extra offensive spark.

We already have KO and Sully at PF and i think he is too short to play C
so.. not a good fit for us

[fandrew]

I say we spread horrible rumors about Embiid's health. He drops to us and we pick him at 6   

[Evantime34]

I think it's Gordon if they stay at six.

I see Gordon as a safe pick but with low upside. Saric on the other hand has the highest upside but the biggest risk.

I don't understand this line of thinking. Gordon is the youngest player in the draft and potentially the most athletic with raw offensive skills. To me that means he has the highest upside.

Saric is a 6'10 forward with ok athleticism. Why is he a high upside pick when his biggest talent is skill. It is much harder to improve your athleticism than your skill.

[fandrew]

I would probably pick Vonleh, though, in all seriousness. If KO shows in summer league the strength and ability to play Center (not my ideal situation but this would be viewing next year as a year 2 of rebuilding) than I would have Sully at the 4 and KO at the 5 next year, with Vonleh playing off the bench at the 4 and some at the 5, with Fav playing any extra minutes at the 5.

But with Sully, KO, and Vonleh... sigh... one would have to be traded at some point in a deal for a true center at some point, I think.

I wish that Vonleh was a 7 footer, he would be a no brainer... but he would probably go in the top 3 too.

[DraftSmart33]

In my mind its between Smart and Gordon.  Not only are they the best fits to our current roster, but in my opinion are the most talented and have the largest upside (Vonleh being a dark horse).  Smart at this point is underrated and I think people forget how young Gordon is.  He won't be 19 until this September.  Not only is Gordon a supreme athlete with an NBA niche (defense) but he has good ball skills and played in a complex offense system in which he often directed his teammates.  Not only could his jumper develop (which isn't that big of an if) it's not unreasonable to think he might grow a little more. At very least he should start putting on mass pretty easily.  He was 6'7 when graduated from high school and is 6'9 right now.

[hpantazo]

I think it's Gordon if they stay at six.

I see Gordon as a safe pick but with low upside. Saric on the other hand has the highest upside but the biggest risk.

I don't understand this line of thinking. Gordon is the youngest player in the draft and potentially the most athletic with raw offensive skills. To me that means he has the highest upside.

Saric is a 6'10 forward with ok athleticism. Why is he a high upside pick when his biggest talent is skill. It is much harder to improve your athleticism than your skill.

well, the line of thinking that an athlete with poor skills is going to come in and develop great skills just because he's a year younger than a few other guys makes no sense. How many players with great athleticism have been taken in drafts for that reason and have worked out? How many have been busts? The list is huge for busts, I can't think of any that have developed into stars. Gordon's NBAdraft.net profile also clearly states that he will be a great role player, but anyone who drafts him and is expecting a star player will be disappointed.

Saric on the other hand has the skills to become a superstar, he has the much higher upside imo. You can't teach talent, you either have it or you don't/ Ask Bradley, Gerald Green, Javale McGhee, Harold Minor, etc etc how far athleticism gets you and if you can develop talent and skill once you are already 18 and over and in the NBA. It's not like these guys just started playing basketball a few years ago like Embiid, and even Embiid is miles ahead of them on skill.

[pokeKingCurtis]

I think it's Gordon if they stay at six.

I see Gordon as a safe pick but with low upside. Saric on the other hand has the highest upside but the biggest risk.

I don't understand this line of thinking. Gordon is the youngest player in the draft and potentially the most athletic with raw offensive skills. To me that means he has the highest upside.

Saric is a 6'10 forward with ok athleticism. Why is he a high upside pick when his biggest talent is skill. It is much harder to improve your athleticism than your skill.

well, the line of thinking that an athlete with poor skills is going to come in and develop great skills just because he's a year younger than a few other guys makes no sense. How many players with great athleticism have been taken in drafts for that reason and have worked out? How many have been busts? The list is huge for busts, I can't think of any that have developed into stars. Gordon's NBAdraft.net profile also clearly states that he will be a great role player, but anyone who drafts him and is expecting a star player will be disappointed.

Saric on the other hand has the skills to become a superstar, he has the much higher upside imo. You can't teach talent, you either have it or you don't/ Ask Bradley, Gerald Green, Javale McGhee, Harold Minor, etc etc how far athleticism gets you and if you can develop talent and skill once you are already 18 and over and in the NBA. It's not like these guys just started playing basketball a few years ago like Embiid, and even Embiid is miles ahead of them on skill.

Yup.

The general rule for general rules is never fixate on general rules.

Because there are always exceptions.

Cool upside, bro [Gerald Green, Javale McGee...etc.]

[DraftSmart33]

I think it's Gordon if they stay at six.

I see Gordon as a safe pick but with low upside. Saric on the other hand has the highest upside but the biggest risk.

I don't understand this line of thinking. Gordon is the youngest player in the draft and potentially the most athletic with raw offensive skills. To me that means he has the highest upside.

Saric is a 6'10 forward with ok athleticism. Why is he a high upside pick when his biggest talent is skill. It is much harder to improve your athleticism than your skill.

well, the line of thinking that an athlete with poor skills is going to come in and develop great skills just because he's a year younger than a few other guys makes no sense. How many players with great athleticism have been taken in drafts for that reason and have worked out? How many have been busts? The list is huge for busts, I can't think of any that have developed into stars. Gordon's NBAdraft.net profile also clearly states that he will be a great role player, but anyone who drafts him and is expecting a star player will be disappointed.

Saric on the other hand has the skills to become a superstar, he has the much higher upside imo. You can't teach talent, you either have it or you don't/ Ask Bradley, Gerald Green, Javale McGhee, Harold Minor, etc etc how far athleticism gets you and if you can develop talent and skill once you are already 18 and over and in the NBA. It's not like these guys just started playing basketball a few years ago like Embiid, and even Embiid is miles ahead of them on skill.

This idea that Gordon doesn't have skills is ridiculous.   Being an elite defender at multiple positions is a skill, ball handling is a skill, rebounding is a skill, basketball I.Q is a skill, and athleticism is a skill.  His shot isn't effective right now but that certainly doesn't mean that he isn't an effective player.

Saric has DUI's over seas, appears to be a borderline head case (arguing with his coaches), may not come over, and plays in a league that many believe is worse than our D league.  Their is a good chance he won't be able to guard the 3 (too slow) or the 4 (too weak) in the NBA.  Could he be a great player..sure, but I think we have plenty of examples of foreign players being busts. 

[DraftSmart33]

Smart = Gordon > Vonleh > Randle