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Offline Clench123

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Cuban ...

Probably doesn't want to HE!P the LA teams in any way....he wants to see the Clippers swing on their rope for a long time

Running off the old racist bigot will only help the Clippers in the short and long run.

Cuban see a chance to snag CP3 and other players , and maybe keep the Clippers locked in a cage and court battle with the NBA ....

Thus reducing his competition.


Cuban is very clever .....he is smart enough to know the old turd needs to go ......but keeping him might have its value.

Plus their is surely lots of info on both Cuban and Sterling none of we, the general public are not aware of.

I think off hand he is working the angles against a hated team .

Hmmm...didn't think about that

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Cuban ...

Probably doesn't want to HE!P the LA teams in any way....he wants to see the Clippers swing on their rope for a long time

Running off the old racist bigot will only help the Clippers in the short and long run.

Cuban see a chance to snag CP3 and other players , and maybe keep the Clippers locked in a cage and court battle with the NBA ....

Thus reducing his competition.


Cuban is very clever .....he is smart enough to know the old turd needs to go ......but keeping him might have its value.

Plus their is surely lots of info on both Cuban and Sterling none of we, the general public are not aware of.

I think off hand he is working the angles against a hated team .

Hmmm...didn't think about that

If that is his motive, which I doubt, could completely backfire on him, souring potential FA's against him

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Why do so many people keep treating this as a moral decision by the NBA?  It's a business decision with a moral pretext.  No slippery slope is necessary - if someone threatens the financial well-being of the league by drawing the degree of negative response that Sterling's comments got, they'll be out too.  "But what about this other thing somebody said 10 years ago?"  Didn't get the attention, didn't threaten the business, so no response.

It just happens that racist, sexist, and, increasingly, homophobic statements are a very quick way of drawing that kind of negative response in today's market, far more so than in the past.

Nailed it.

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Maybe they both are secret members of the KKK... ???

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I just hate the generalization here.  No, Mark, we are not ALL racists and prejudice.  I think it's an excuse closet racists use in justifying their racist acts and thoughts. 

Secondly, I don't think there is any equivalence between the black guy in a hoodie and a bald white guy with tattoos in the context of race.  If you change sides of the street when you see a bald white guy with tattoos, you probably changed because you're thinking this is probably one tough or crazy or badass or whatever.  Personally, those are my type of dudes.  But if you change streets because you see a black guy in a hoodie on the street, you probably change because you're thinking THEY rob and steal.  Big difference.

I lost a little respect for Mark Cuban here but in his own words, I want to know who the morons are.

lol wow

no words...

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You really think the players stand to lose more than the ownership in a player's strike over something like this? That's sort of laughable.

I find it laughable that you think the players stand to lose less.

The owners are financially well off to the point of not NEEDING the NBA to make their money. The same cannot be said of most NBA players.

A strike would 100% hurt the players more than the owners in the end.

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basketball players work with their hands.

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I just think Cuban is trying to straddle the fence...I'm not sure where he's coming from, and maybe he doesn't, either.

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Why do so many people keep treating this as a moral decision by the NBA?  It's a business decision with a moral pretext.  No slippery slope is necessary - if someone threatens the financial well-being of the league by drawing the degree of negative response that Sterling's comments got, they'll be out too.  "But what about this other thing somebody said 10 years ago?"  Didn't get the attention, didn't threaten the business, so no response.

It just happens that racist, sexist, and, increasingly, homophobic statements are a very quick way of drawing that kind of negative response in today's market, far more so than in the past.

So it's not a slippery slope, gravity is just pulling us down this remarkably slick, downward-curved surface at increasing velocity!

Even if the NBA didn't view it as a moral decision (and they've done everything to frame it as a moral decision), it doesn't mean it isn't one.  Whether the sheriff gives over his prisoner to the mob because he sympathizes with their case or because he's afraid for himself, the effect is the same: the mob is validated and empowered.

Whatever you think about Sterling the man, the way his team is being taken from him stinks of Orwell.  A private phone conversation recorded and leaked and a tabloid media holding him up for endless 2-minute hates. The endless piling on and self-righteous denunciations. The thrill of ganging up on a dying old ogre and trampling him. The suspicious glares trained on those who express misgivings - like Cuban.

The ends may have been a long time coming for Sterling, but the means are exposing something far more sinister.

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Offline NorthernLightning

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Wrong. Do you know anything about the CEOs of the big media companies? They would have buried this whole thing if they could, but in the modern internet age it is much harder to do.

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I just think Cuban is trying to straddle the fence...I'm not sure where he's coming from, and maybe he doesn't, either.

Maybe he's coming from the perspective of liking being the center of attention and making comments that he knows will be talked about a lot.
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I just think Cuban is trying to straddle the fence...I'm not sure where he's coming from, and maybe he doesn't, either.

Maybe he's coming from the perspective of liking being the center of attention and making comments that he knows will be talked about a lot.
He's a billionaire, as a rule they prefer not to be accountable when they say dumb things. Cuban's been known to say dumb things.

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Why do so many people keep treating this as a moral decision by the NBA?  It's a business decision with a moral pretext.  No slippery slope is necessary - if someone threatens the financial well-being of the league by drawing the degree of negative response that Sterling's comments got, they'll be out too.  "But what about this other thing somebody said 10 years ago?"  Didn't get the attention, didn't threaten the business, so no response.

It just happens that racist, sexist, and, increasingly, homophobic statements are a very quick way of drawing that kind of negative response in today's market, far more so than in the past.

So it's not a slippery slope, gravity is just pulling us down this remarkably slick, downward-curved surface at increasing velocity!

Even if the NBA didn't view it as a moral decision (and they've done everything to frame it as a moral decision), it doesn't mean it isn't one.  Whether the sheriff gives over his prisoner to the mob because he sympathizes with their case or because he's afraid for himself, the effect is the same: the mob is validated and empowered.

Whatever you think about Sterling the man, the way his team is being taken from him stinks of Orwell.  A private phone conversation recorded and leaked and a tabloid media holding him up for endless 2-minute hates. The endless piling on and self-righteous denunciations. The thrill of ganging up on a dying old ogre and trampling him. The suspicious glares trained on those who express misgivings - like Cuban.

The ends may have been a long time coming for Sterling, but the means are exposing something far more sinister.

I see your point.

My mother and I were just discussing Viviano and her appearances on Dr. Phil and ET recently....she's not an innocent pawn in this, either.

But the sad thing, to me, is that Sterling could not make use of the fact that most of us are forgiving people, and a simple thought-out "I'm sorry" would've went a LONG way...would've meant something......ANYONE can change.

CNN and Anderson Cooper gave him ample opportunity to do just that.

I don't think he sees the error of his ways.

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My whole issue with this is what exactly did he say that warrants the lifetime ban and forced sale of team. Idk how many of you actually listened to the 10 minute "tirade" he had but he honestly didn't even use any racial slurs or specifically say he doesn't want blacks in the nba. He said he doesn't want HER going to the game with magic Johnson and "them". So now we assume he means all blacks but what can we go off of assumptions? Obviously the guys a bigot and proved it over the years but listening to this woman poke and prod at him in an attempt to get him to outburst is sickening. The guy sounds like he's on the verge of tears begging her to let it go and leave him alone but nope she keeps pecking. Honestly probably the biggest troll in history. So now we have a nationwide which hunt for a guy who mightve said something racist behind closed doors. And let me make it clear I'm not defending this guy, he's scum, but I can't help but feel like he's getting shafted.

What I wanna know is what are they gonna do if it comes out that a black owner, let's say Jordan for example, says some racist remarks about whites/hispanics/gay/lesbian etc behind closed doors and it comes to light. Are they going to be as strict in that situation? Or will they sweep it under the rug because they are the minority in the nba. I just feel like there's a double standard here
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Why do so many people keep treating this as a moral decision by the NBA?  It's a business decision with a moral pretext.  No slippery slope is necessary - if someone threatens the financial well-being of the league by drawing the degree of negative response that Sterling's comments got, they'll be out too.  "But what about this other thing somebody said 10 years ago?"  Didn't get the attention, didn't threaten the business, so no response.

It just happens that racist, sexist, and, increasingly, homophobic statements are a very quick way of drawing that kind of negative response in today's market, far more so than in the past.

So it's not a slippery slope, gravity is just pulling us down this remarkably slick, downward-curved surface at increasing velocity!

Even if the NBA didn't view it as a moral decision (and they've done everything to frame it as a moral decision), it doesn't mean it isn't one.  Whether the sheriff gives over his prisoner to the mob because he sympathizes with their case or because he's afraid for himself, the effect is the same: the mob is validated and empowered.

Whatever you think about Sterling the man, the way his team is being taken from him stinks of Orwell.  A private phone conversation recorded and leaked and a tabloid media holding him up for endless 2-minute hates. The endless piling on and self-righteous denunciations. The thrill of ganging up on a dying old ogre and trampling him. The suspicious glares trained on those who express misgivings - like Cuban.

The ends may have been a long time coming for Sterling, but the means are exposing something far more sinister.

Have you read Orwell?  Because he's pretty concerned about government control, when here we have a collection of 29 rich business owners hanging a 30th out to dry (in that selling an asset for a billion dollars can possibly seen as such) for their own personal benefit.

It is nothing like Orwell.  We have private entities acting in their own self-interest.  Does it suck for Sterling that his bigotry was exposed to the point where others could no longer pretend it didn't exist?  Sure.  That's life.  He's free to say what he wants, and others are free to react how they want, and the NBA is free to favor the reaction of the majority of its sponsors, employees, and customers over Donald Sterling's wishes.  And Cuban is free to vote whichever way he wants.  If he doesn't want to vote Sterling out on freedom of speech grounds, either due to moral conviction or personal protection as an outspoken person, that's his prerogative.  If he thinks that the possible loss of sponsorship is going to hurt his own business, and wants Sterling out for that, even if he feels uncomfortable, that's his prerogative too.

This issue is not complicated.  Donald Sterling said some very offensive things.  The NBA is in danger of losing tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars because of those things.  They are taking an action to prevent the loss of money.  No more, no less.  Certainly some owners were truly offended.  I'd bet Michael Jordan was.  Probably some other owners weren't as much, but don't want to lose the money, because they're not idiots.  There's no persecution of Donald Sterling.  There are fans who say "I don't want my money going there."  There are companies that don't want to be associated with it, so as not to lose those fans as customers.  And there are players who don't want to help a man who's so willing to denigrate them.  It is simply that most people find him revolting, and their dollars are talking.  No laws are being passed.  No one's rounding up the racists.  Orwellian this is not.