We're not getting Love

[ctrey]

Please everyone just stop. We do not have the assets and the team that would be left if we did steal him from the Wolves would not win a thing, putting Love right back where he was, just further east. Here is a rather astute take from ESPN writer Amin Elhassan


Boston Celtics

Trade bait: Jared Sullinger, Brandon Bass, Joel Anthony, Keith Bogans, picks

Pitch: The Celtics have a wealth of future picks from Brooklyn as well as an unprotected 2015 first-rounder from the Clippers and a protected 2015 first-rounder from Philly. Plus, the C's can offer some mildly interesting young talents like Sullinger, expiring deals in Bass and Anthony and Bogans' nonguaranteed $5.3 million deal. Love would play with Rajon Rondo in the East. But the offer to Minnesota and the prospects for Love pale in comparison to potential deals from other suitors.

There you have it. He rightly lists the Bulls, Warriors and Rockets as the teams who could honestly get him. Teams that have better talent to win now and a better perceived future. I am fairly convinced Love goes to Houston. It is warm, he admires McHale, the guy who picked him and groomed him along with the fact there are no state taxes in Houston.

Either way, In Chicago, Golden State or Houston, those teams have the ability to give Minnesota plenty of talent and picks while remaining title contenders right away. We do not. If we trade the house for Love, we would have nothing else to get the third star needed to beat any title contender.

[Fafnir]

What does Houston have that would interest the Wolves other than James Harden?

Parsons and Terrence Jones aren't getting it done, not without draft considerations that Houston doesn't have to give.

[Goldstar88]

Please everyone just stop. We do not have the assets and the team that would be left if we did steal him from the Wolves would not win a thing, putting Love right back where he was, just further east. Here is a rather astute take from ESPN writer Amin Elhassan


Boston Celtics

Trade bait: Jared Sullinger, Brandon Bass, Joel Anthony, Keith Bogans, picks

Pitch: The Celtics have a wealth of future picks from Brooklyn as well as an unprotected 2015 first-rounder from the Clippers and a protected 2015 first-rounder from Philly. Plus, the C's can offer some mildly interesting young talents like Sullinger, expiring deals in Bass and Anthony and Bogans' nonguaranteed $5.3 million deal. Love would play with Rajon Rondo in the East. But the offer to Minnesota and the prospects for Love pale in comparison to potential deals from other suitors.

There you have it. He rightly lists the Bulls, Warriors and Rockets as the teams who could honestly get him. Teams that have better talent to win now and a better perceived future. I am fairly convinced Love goes to Houston. It is warm, he admires McHale, the guy who picked him and groomed him along with the fact there are no state taxes in Houston.

Either way, In Chicago, Golden State or Houston, those teams have the ability to give Minnesota plenty of talent and picks while remaining title contenders right away. We do not. If we trade the house for Love, we would have nothing else to get the third star needed to beat any title contender.

Completely agree, Thank You

[pokeKingCurtis]

I agree. We're not getting enough love just because we lost the lottery.

We have so many first round picks. We're in a pretty good position.

We deserve some love from the media, even from our own fans.

 

[Goldstar88]

Golden State makes the most sense

[Monkhouse]

GSW makes the most sense, but they aren't giving up Klay imo.

A big 3 of Iggy, Curry, Love is a pretty sick 3 pt shooting team from every suitable position of PG, SF, PF.

The Celtics can get Love, it just depends on whether or not the Wolves want to rebuild or completely blow it up.

[BleedGreen1989]

This back and forth stuff is pretty entertaining.

[Fafnir]

Golden State makes the most sense

Only if Minnesota thinks it can build around Lee + some combination of Harrison/Thompson and is okay with not getting draft picks.

I think that'd be a very strange deal to take, unless they think that they can try and make a playoff run around that team which is pretty nuts.

[Monkhouse]

Golden State makes the most sense

Only if Minnesota thinks it can build around Lee + some combination of Harrison/Thompson and is okay with not getting draft picks.

I think that'd be a very strange deal to take, unless they think that they can try and make a playoff run around that team which is pretty nuts.

I heard Magic may be thinking of joining in on a 3 way, but I don't see how that helps the Wolves as the Magic isn't giving up any serious picks... The 3 way trade supposedly gives GSW Arron Affalo, but what does the Wolves get in return? Barnes, Lee, Thompson, a draft pick is a pretty good deal imo. I would take that if I'm Saunders. Even if I think Thompson is one of the most overrated shooting guards in the league.

[nyceltsfan]

Our group of picks with Green, Sully, Bradley and Olynyk can be an attractive basket of talent/potential talent to use as trade bait.  One thing that I have learned from watching the NBA is that in order to win a championship, or compete for one, you need elite level talent surrounded by very good role players.  Kevin Love is close to elite talent and if I were Minnesota, I would either want elite talent back or the chance to draft elite talent.  Chandler Parsons and Terrence Jones are what they are and will not be elite talent.  If Minnesota wants to trade with Houston to build a championship team, they will have to get a good basket of picks back as part of the trade (unless Houston is willing to deal Howard or Harden).  The GS trio mentioned are also good players, but not elite talent.  Same with the Bulls.

The current state of the NBA is that teams acquiring elite talent do not trade elite talent and therefore, the picks become the most potential value in a trade for elite talent.  Additionally, the picks that the Celtics have to offer come from multiple teams, which lessens Minnesota's risk of receiving low draft picks in a potential deal with Boston.

For the record, I am on board with a Love trade, as long as that is not the end and we are able to bring in another all star.

[Fafnir]

Golden State makes the most sense

Only if Minnesota thinks it can build around Lee + some combination of Harrison/Thompson and is okay with not getting draft picks.

I think that'd be a very strange deal to take, unless they think that they can try and make a playoff run around that team which is pretty nuts.

I heard Magic may be thinking of joining in on a 3 way, but I don't see how that helps the Wolves as the Magic isn't giving up any serious picks... The 3 way trade supposedly gives GSW Arron Affalo, but what does the Wolves get in return? Barnes, Lee, Thompson, a draft pick is a pretty good deal imo. I would take that if I'm Saunders. Even if I think Thompson is one of the most overrated shooting guards in the league.

That sounds like a fan made three-team trade to make things work. What in the world is left to give to the Magic for Affalo? Are the Wolves shipping out Pekovic or Rubio?

I'm not high on that trade offer simply because Klay is due for an extension and you can zero cap flexibility till Lee/Martin's deals are done for a team that won't sniff the playoffs.

Minnesota needs at least 2 of 3 things in a Love deal:

1. Talent
2. Cap flexibility
3. Draft picks

GSW deal only offers one of those things, and due to Thompson's deal coming up costs them the second.

[ctrey]

Here is what was said regarding Houston:

Houston Rockets

Trade bait: James Harden, Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Terrence Jones, Troy Daniels

Pitch: Houston will sell the Wolves on Harden being the only All-NBA player dangled in an offer, along with an elite defensive big in Asik and any other selection from the end of the roster. Like Golden State, the Rockets' strength is they can give up proven talent to help Minnesota win in the present. Unlike Golden State, Houston can throw in a combination of first-rounders moving forward. In this scenario, Love plays alongside a dominant defensive big in Howard and plays for the man who drafted and coached him in Kevin McHale.

I would also add the fact there are no state taxes in Texas, big bump in money made. Houston has the ways and means to make it happen.

[BballTim]

Please everyone just stop. We do not have the assets and the team that would be left if we did steal him from the Wolves would not win a thing, putting Love right back where he was, just further east. Here is a rather astute take from ESPN writer Amin Elhassan


Boston Celtics

Trade bait: Jared Sullinger, Brandon Bass, Joel Anthony, Keith Bogans, picks

Pitch: The Celtics have a wealth of future picks from Brooklyn as well as an unprotected 2015 first-rounder from the Clippers and a protected 2015 first-rounder from Philly. Plus, the C's can offer some mildly interesting young talents like Sullinger, expiring deals in Bass and Anthony and Bogans' nonguaranteed $5.3 million deal. Love would play with Rajon Rondo in the East. But the offer to Minnesota and the prospects for Love pale in comparison to potential deals from other suitors.

There you have it. He rightly lists the Bulls, Warriors and Rockets as the teams who could honestly get him. Teams that have better talent to win now and a better perceived future. I am fairly convinced Love goes to Houston. It is warm, he admires McHale, the guy who picked him and groomed him along with the fact there are no state taxes in Houston.

Either way, In Chicago, Golden State or Houston, those teams have the ability to give Minnesota plenty of talent and picks while remaining title contenders right away. We do not. If we trade the house for Love, we would have nothing else to get the third star needed to beat any title contender.

  I read tons of posts exactly like this when KG was on the market and we had no chance at all of getting him.

[Fafnir]

Here is what was said regarding Houston:

Houston Rockets

Trade bait: James Harden, Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Terrence Jones, Troy Daniels

Pitch: Houston will sell the Wolves on Harden being the only All-NBA player dangled in an offer, along with an elite defensive big in Asik and any other selection from the end of the roster. Like Golden State, the Rockets' strength is they can give up proven talent to help Minnesota win in the present. Unlike Golden State, Houston can throw in a combination of first-rounders moving forward. In this scenario, Love plays alongside a dominant defensive big in Howard and plays for the man who drafted and coached him in Kevin McHale.

Minnesota has Pekovic signed to a long term deal and Asik is expiring, why would they want him? They also have Rubio, why would they want a backup combo guard like Lin who's going to be a FA?

Jones, Harden, and the picks are the only attractive assets and they'll be low picks and I don't see Harden moving. Would you trade Love for Jones + 2 low first rounders?

I would also add the fact there are no state taxes in Texas, big bump in money made. Houston has the ways and means to make it happen.

"Ways and means to make it happen"

So magic tricks and strippers? Seriously I'm not sure what this paragraph is saying.

[ctrey]

What does Houston have that would interest the Wolves other than James Harden?

Parsons and Terrence Jones aren't getting it done, not without draft considerations that Houston doesn't have to give.

They can give picks, plus Jones is really quite good. Better than Sully right now. Granted he has been healthy and Sully has not in the grand scheme of things.

Also Love can dictate where he wants to go. If he says, Houston or nowhere cause I won't sign, they are stuck. He controls the cards. Love, Parsons and Howard would be a terrifying team even in the loaded west.