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Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 10:42:21 AM »

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1. Wiggins to Cleveland
2. Parker to Milwaukee
3. Exum to Philadelphia
4. Smart to Orlando

I think Wiggins goes #1. I expect Milwaukee to go for Parker due to scoring prowess and college performance. I think Philly goes with Exum to pair him together with MCW in the backcourt alongside Noel and Thad Young in the frontcourt.

Orlando more of a toss up but I wouldn't be surprised to see Orlando take Smart over Embiid. (1) Embiid's injury concerns (2) Orlando's need for a new PG (3) they seem to overvalue Vucevic.

No idea what Utah does then at #5. Favors and Kanter already at C. Maybe they try to trade the pick.

So you really think Embiid will fall to the Celtics?

With his back injury + refusal to release medical info?

Yes. Without being cleared by doctors, there is a real chance Embiid is there at Boston's pick.

I can imagine Embiid dodging Cleveland and Milwaukee, but I think he might have to actually shoot himself in the leg to get past Philadelphia. Exum is a huge question mark himself, and the 6ers are probably looking to build around MCW

That is the big selling point for me. I think MCW and Exum would be terrific together.

I believe Exum will end up being a SG anyway. Always a skeptic about big PGs being true PGs especially when like Exum they have been playing in a league with subpar talent and been able to sail by without his PG skills being truly tested. We'll see but I am expecting a ball-handling two guard rather than a PG.

Anyways, either way, good scoring PG or a ball-handling two guard, I think Exum and MCW would be great together. I really like the offensive system Philadelphia was putting in place last year. High pace. Lots of movement in the halfcourt. Multiple ball-handlers / playmakers. Great framework for a two playmaking guard backcourt. So I think having two guards like Exum and MCW would be fantastic in that offense.

The offense. The multi-dimensional games. The size of the guards. I think they are major selling points and would work very well together.

Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 10:45:00 AM »

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Through #17.

1. Cleveland - Joel Embiid
2. Milwaukee - Andrew Wiggins
3. Philly - Jabari Parker
4. Orlando - Dante Exum
5. Utah - Marcus Smart
6. Celtics - Noah Vonleh
7. Lakers - Julius Randle
8. Sacramento - Tyler Ennis
9. Charlotte - Doug McDermott
10. Philadelphia - Aaron Gordon
11. Denver - K.J. McDaniels
12. Orlando - Dario Saric
13. Minnesota - Gary Harris
14. Phoenix - James Young
15. Atlanta - Elfrid Payton
16. Chicago - Nik Stauskas
17. Boston - Jusuf Nurkic

EDIT: I forgot that Chicago had Charlotte's pick.  I still think that Stauskas goes off the board at that spot.
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Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 10:53:12 AM »

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1. Cleveland - Andrew Wiggins
2. Milwaukee - Dante Exum
3. Philly - Joel Embiid
4. Orlando - Marcus Smart
5. Utah - Jabari Parker
6. Celtics - Aaron Gordon
7. Lakers - Julius Randle
8. Sacramento - Noah Vonleh
9. Charlotte - Doug McDermott
10. Philadelphia - Aaron Gordon
11. Denver -Tyler Ennis
12. Orlando - Elfrid Payton
13. Minnesota - Nik Stauskas
14. Phoenix - James Young
15. Atlanta - Jusuf Nurkic
16. Charlotte - Gary Harris
17. Boston - Zach LaVine
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Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19

Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2014, 11:41:31 AM »

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The mock that Kevin posted on the main page just now is strategically very interesting. He has the Celtics taking the long view, looking past 2014-2015 presumably in order to synchronize the arrival of top European talent with more draft high picks from Brooklyn's fall (and our continued tanking?). He has us taking Saric and Kristaps Porzingis, neither of whom is likely to play for us next season.

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2014, 11:44:24 AM »

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The mock that Kevin posted on the main page just now is strategically very interesting. He has the Celtics taking the long view, looking past 2014-2015 presumably in order to synchronize the arrival of top European talent with more draft high picks from Brooklyn's fall (and our continued tanking?). He has us taking Saric and Kristaps Porzingis, neither of whom is likely to play for us next season.

Tankerific.

You're probably right, but I'd hope for Saric to come over this season.  Gonna be a boring season if neither of the guys we take in this draft even play till next year.

Saric would be a lot of fun to watch.
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Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2014, 12:12:12 PM »

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The mock that Kevin posted on the main page just now is strategically very interesting. He has the Celtics taking the long view, looking past 2014-2015 presumably in order to synchronize the arrival of top European talent with more draft high picks from Brooklyn's fall (and our continued tanking?). He has us taking Saric and Kristaps Porzingis, neither of whom is likely to play for us next season.

Tankerific.

You're probably right, but I'd hope for Saric to come over this season.  Gonna be a boring season if neither of the guys we take in this draft even play till next year.

Saric would be a lot of fun to watch.

God, it would be so terrible, but then this time next year would be a complete explosion of optimism. Imagine if we ran it back in 2014-2015 and then added, like, Jahlil Okafor, Dario Saric, Kristaps Porzingis, and Wayne Seldon all at once. It would be a bonanza.

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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2014, 12:29:50 PM »

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The mock that Kevin posted on the main page just now is strategically very interesting. He has the Celtics taking the long view, looking past 2014-2015 presumably in order to synchronize the arrival of top European talent with more draft high picks from Brooklyn's fall (and our continued tanking?). He has us taking Saric and Kristaps Porzingis, neither of whom is likely to play for us next season.

Tankerific.

You're probably right, but I'd hope for Saric to come over this season.  Gonna be a boring season if neither of the guys we take in this draft even play till next year.

Saric would be a lot of fun to watch.


I would really want Saric to stay ideally two years longer over there.  Saric is a great talent, but he's not much more nba ready than most of the other picks in the top 10.  These days, with players coming out so early, it's year 3 before they're really ready to be contributors on a winning NBA team.  Then it's two years until they become expensive.

However, if Saric develops two more years, and is NBA ready when he walks through that door, then you've got a cost-controlled player who's worth it all four years.  That's how you can create payroll flexibility.

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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2014, 12:56:01 PM »

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1. Cleveland - Andrew Wiggins
2. Milwaukee - Dante Exum
3. Philly - Joel Embiid
4. Orlando - Marcus Smart
5. Utah - Jabari Parker
6. Celtics - Aaron Gordon
7. Lakers - Julius Randle
8. Sacramento - Noah Vonleh
9. Charlotte - Doug McDermott
10. Philadelphia - Aaron Gordon
11. Denver -Tyler Ennis
12. Orlando - Elfrid Payton
13. Minnesota - Nik Stauskas
14. Phoenix - James Young
15. Atlanta - Jusuf Nurkic
16. Charlotte - Gary Harris
17. Boston - Zach LaVine

Almost like mines. Def exum goes number 2 to the bucks. But u got AG going twice

Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2014, 01:00:47 PM »

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1. Cleveland - Andrew Wiggins
2. Milwaukee - Dante Exum
3. Philly - Joel Embiid
4. Orlando - Marcus Smart
5. Utah - Jabari Parker
6. Celtics - Aaron Gordon
7. Lakers - Julius Randle
8. Sacramento - Noah Vonleh
9. Charlotte - Doug McDermott
10. Philadelphia - Aaron Gordon
11. Denver -Tyler Ennis
12. Orlando - Elfrid Payton
13. Minnesota - Nik Stauskas
14. Phoenix - James Young
15. Atlanta - Jusuf Nurkic
16. Charlotte - Gary Harris
17. Boston - Zach LaVine

Almost like mines. Def exum goes number 2 to the bucks. But u got AG going twice

To be fair, I heard that picking AG twice actually is Cleveland's plan

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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2014, 01:00:54 PM »

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If Parker goes number 5, I'll be sick. All over a dumb coin toss.
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2014, 01:08:43 PM »

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If Parker goes number 5, I'll be sick. All over a dumb coin toss.

Its a possibility. Rumor is he didnt attend the combine bc he was in poor condition or didnt improve his conditioning

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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2014, 01:12:54 PM »

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If Parker goes number 5, I'll be sick. All over a dumb coin toss.

Its a possibility. Rumor is he didnt attend the combine bc he was in poor condition or didnt improve his conditioning

Or maybe, simply, he had nothing to gain by attending the combine.

Any reputable sources on the conditioning rumors by the way?


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Re: now we can mock draft, at least
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2014, 01:16:02 PM »

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If Parker goes number 5, I'll be sick. All over a dumb coin toss.

Its a possibility. Rumor is he didnt attend the combine bc he was in poor condition or didnt improve his conditioning

Or maybe, simply, he had nothing to gain by attending the combine.

Any reputable sources on the conditioning rumors by the way?

Nope, can't find one.
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2014, 01:26:55 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2014, 01:44:06 PM »

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If Parker goes number 5, I'll be sick. All over a dumb coin toss.

Its a possibility. Rumor is he didnt attend the combine bc he was in poor condition or didnt improve his conditioning

Or maybe, simply, he had nothing to gain by attending the combine.

Any reputable sources on the conditioning rumors by the way?

Nope, can't find one.

Yeah, I didn't so.  Shocking.  ::)


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