Love Vs McDermott

[Celtics18]

There's nothing crazy about watching a lot of Paul Pierce, Doug. 

[Celtics4ever]

Love is a proven NBA player.   McDermott could be Wally S or Adam Morrison depends on how it goes.   I think he has mental toughness which Morrison lacked.   But he only athletic to the common man not NBA players.  He struggled against tall athletic guys in the Baylor game.   I think he will have the same problems in the NBA.   You can have the best shot ever and if you get it blocked every time it doesn't help one bit.

[NorthernLightning]

Roy, I can't find the clip on youtube, but Wally really did say that Doug has a better post game than Wally did "at any point in my career", and he called Doug's post-game McHale-like in it's completeness of a skillset.

McDermott might have the most post moves of anybody in this draft, and his Dirk-fadeaway is a late but lethal and improving weapon.

This guy is going to have every move in the basketball lexicon, and shoot at excellent percentages from all over.

Within the next year McDermott will practice and develop an automatic 10 foot floater, and his scoring skill set will be almost complete, and he'll just keep getting better and better with shots of a higher and higher degree of difficulty.

[Roy H.]

Roy, I can't find the clip on youtube, but Wally really did say that Doug has a better post game than Wally did "at any point in my career", and he called Doug's post-game McHale-like in it's completeness of a skillset.

I have no idea how their post games compared.  I remember that Wally had a decent post-game, and as mentioned above, there's no shame in being compared to Wally Sczerbiak.  McDermott could very well be better; I just haven't watched enough, and I don't remember Wally coming out of college well enough.

I think it's probably hyperbole to compare McDermott's post game to McHale's, though.  In the last 30 years, there are fewer than five guys who can be mentioned in the same sentence as McHale in terms of their skill in the post, and none of them are small forwards.

[NorthernLightning]

I'm watching that Creighton Baylor game right now. It's getting totally overblown.

I think Creighton's game plan was to come out and get the other guys involved early with all the attention on McDermott. He wasn't getting many touches, and he should have been working the post in the first half.

Part his fault and part his father's fault, because McDermott was being defended by a small guard. Then McDermott picked up an early second foul, so he ended up playing 4-5 minutes less than he usually did. And still ended up with 15 points on .500 shooting, in a supposedly horrible game, lol.

Give me a break. Waaaaaay over-analyzed.

[NorthernLightning]

Roy, I can't find the clip on youtube, but Wally really did say that Doug has a better post game than Wally did "at any point in my career", and he called Doug's post-game McHale-like in it's completeness of a skillset.

I have no idea how their post games compared.  I remember that Wally had a decent post-game, and as mentioned above, there's no shame in being compared to Wally Sczerbiak.  McDermott could very well be better; I just haven't watched enough, and I don't remember Wally coming out of college well enough.

I think it's probably hyperbole to compare McDermott's post game to McHale's, though.  In the last 30 years, there are fewer than five guys who can be mentioned in the same sentence as McHale in terms of their skill in the post, and none of them are small forwards.

Well, Wally was talking about completeness of skill set, not overall effectiveness, even though McDermott's was incredibly effective in college.

McHale is obviously taller and has longer arms. But McDermott will be posting up SFs and SGs and a few PFs, and he won't spend entire games down there.

It's just a major and under-appreciated part of his game that we would be foolish to overlook because we don't want to get stuck with the next Adam Morrison.

There's a lot of old Paul Pierce in McDermott, and that includes most of the skillset.

[csfansince60s]

TP for your passion for McDermott, northern lightning and for so zealously defending your premise.

Not sure I agree with you, but you gave 23 out of 49 posts in this thread.

That's got to be a record! Wow.

[NorthernLightning]

Speaking of records, that reminds me of Doug McDermott

I'm a big fan of a lot of guys outside the top 4.

Smart, Gordon, Nurkic, Anderson, Saric, TJ Warren, Porzingis, and McDermott.

I hope to end up with two of them.

But one thing I realize is that athleticism is easier to replace than all time caliber skill.

I looove Aaron Gordon, but there are more great athletes available late in the draft and the DLeague than there are legendary scorers with complete arsenals.

And part of why I love Gordon so much is his outstanding motor, you can count on him to produce to the max every minute he is on the floor, up to 40+ mpg.

But the thing is, McDermott has the same non-stop motor, and he'll be even more exhausting for defenses because he is always in motion and MUST be accounted for at all times.

Another big reason I like Aaron Gordon is his outstanding work ethic and intangibles. Well, ... McDermott has the same outstanding work ethic and intangibles.

And when you get down to it, the gap between Gordon and McDermott's athleticism is smaller than the gap between McDermott and Gordon's skills.

McDermott at worst will be a slightly below average on ball defender, but an above average team defender, so he's probably better than Melo defending 3s or Love defending 4s, or at least not worse.

[Celtics18]

Your efforts are appreciated, but your son is going to do just fine without your help, Mrs. McDermott. 

[fitzhickey]

For real?

Like others have said, good on ya for sticking to your guns.

But McDermott hasn't even played a Summer League game. You're comparing him to an elite NBA player.

He will never rebound as well as Love, nor will he score nearly as much.

[NorthernLightning]

He won't put up the rebounding numbers of Love, but he won't be playing PF. Sully and KO will.

[footey]

There's nothing crazy about watching a lot of Paul Pierce, Doug.

McDermott has a sweet step-back move, no doubt modeled off of Pierce, the master.

[D.o.s.]

It's got to be noted that Creighton's offense was a mythical beast that essentially puts all of McDermott's college numbers in doubt. That team was crazy (in a good way) when it came to chucking threes -- which are long twos in the NBA, lest we forget.

[NorthernLightning]

Mythical beast. Hmm. Nope, pretty sure it happened, and that one guy shot the ball at a time. No group 3 point shots that I'm aware of.

One thing about great shooters is they tend to give everybody else more confidence with their shot. When we had Ray Allen, everybody shot will a little more swagger. Pierce never went through a month + long funk like he did when Ray left, in the time leading up to Rondo's injury.

Everybody seems to shoot better when playing with an amazing shooter. And two or three great/good shooters can feed off of each other, like the Creighton guys or the UCLA guys, or the Splash Bros, or Paul Pierce and Ray Allen, or Reggie Miller and Chuck Person, Or McDermott, KO, along with inspired teammates like Bradley and Sully. Shooting well is contagious, and the opposite tends to hold true.

Having a go-to consistent confidence boosting shooter like Doug goes a long way.

[Fafnir]

It's got to be noted that Creighton's offense was a mythical beast that essentially puts all of McDermott's college numbers in doubt. That team was crazy (in a good way) when it came to chucking threes -- which are long twos in the NBA, lest we forget.

Their offense was interesting, it basically was a 4 out 1 in offense with McDermott as their Dwight Howard.

Only he'd also pop out for 3s and take fast break trailer threes too. Their problem was Manigat couldn't hit a shot to save the team late in the year and once Gibbs hurt his knee they had only one person capable of dribble penetration.

His post game is pretty good, but it was only effective because they put small guys on him to avoid giving up 3s. I don't anticipate it having much success in the NBA if teams just guard him like they would most SFs. He has real problem getting the dang ball though if aggressively denied.