Kevin Love per Wojnarowski

[indeedproceed]

Little to no rim protection? He averages 1.3 blocks per 36 minutes of play (Omer Asik averages 1.4, for comparison), I would like you to check out the second video from the quoted post to show how he has "little to no rim protection".

One of the bigger misconceptions is that blocks=rim protection, or more specifically, that comparable blocks per game or per 36 minutes means comparable rim protection.

But real rim protectors aren't necessarily guys who pile up lots of blocked shots. Most of their work is in altering shots, from either forcing a player into a low% contested shot or from forcing them to pass out of a drive and reset.

Asik is head and shoulders above Jason Smith at rim protection.

[GreenWarrior]

I think we are missing one question here with these scenarios:


Which bad contract do the Celtics take back? 


(and give up the pipe dream of sending out Wallace)



For example
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kqfrpls


Where the Celtics use all three TE.


Love, Martin (TE 1), Shved (TE 2) and Turiaf (TE 3)

for

Bass, Bogan, and Sullinger (plus three picks unless the Celtics offer a top 3 pick this year)

this and we need to know love will sign here before we even trade for him. getting 1 season outta this guy isn't worth it.

[KamikazeK]

I think we are missing one question here with these scenarios:


Which bad contract do the Celtics take back? 


(and give up the pipe dream of sending out Wallace)



For example
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kqfrpls


Where the Celtics use all three TE.


Love, Martin (TE 1), Shved (TE 2) and Turiaf (TE 3)

for

Bass, Bogan, and Sullinger (plus three picks unless the Celtics offer a top 3 pick this year)

this and we need to know love will sign here before we even trade for him. getting 1 season outta this guy isn't worth it.

I disagree. I would pull the trigger anyways and then cash in the rest of our assets to try to build a team around him and Rondo that would make them both want to stick around. You get nowhere if you won't take a risk.

[kozlodoev]

So we're allegedly prepared to offer our first-rounder here. I wonder what else is on the table. Sullinger perhaps?

[Fafnir]

So we're allegedly prepared to offer our first-rounder here. I wonder what else is on the table. Sullinger perhaps?

Sullinger or Olynyk, Minny's preference I imagine. Both are clearly expendable when trading for an All-star who plays the same position. Even if Minny doesn't love either one they're "young talent" which is typically required for these sort of deals.

Those would be the biggest pieces, beyond that I could see additional draft picks being thrown in depending on the negotiations.

[D.o.s.]

I think we are missing one question here with these scenarios:


Which bad contract do the Celtics take back? 


(and give up the pipe dream of sending out Wallace)



For example
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kqfrpls


Where the Celtics use all three TE.


Love, Martin (TE 1), Shved (TE 2) and Turiaf (TE 3)

for

Bass, Bogan, and Sullinger (plus three picks unless the Celtics offer a top 3 pick this year)

this and we need to know love will sign here before we even trade for him. getting 1 season outta this guy isn't worth it.

I disagree. I would pull the trigger anyways and then cash in the rest of our assets to try to build a team around him and Rondo that would make them both want to stick around. You get nowhere if you won't take a risk.

I get the feeling that taking risks and ending up with some kind of intimately transferred disease and taking risks and ending up with Kevin Love on your team probably feel pretty similar.

[MBunge]

If Asik is as easily gettable as it seems, you absolutely trade this year's pick for Love unless you're planning to trade Rondo.  The big 3 this year would all take at least 2 years to fully develop and Embiid make take 4 or 5.  If you've got Asik, Love and Rondo, Boston would become VERY attractive to any superstar looking to win a title.

Mike

[the_Bird]

If Asik is as easily gettable as it seems, you absolutely trade this year's pick for Love unless you're planning to trade Rondo.  The big 3 this year would all take at least 2 years to fully develop and Embiid make take 4 or 5.  If you've got Asik, Love and Rondo, Boston would become VERY attractive to any superstar looking to win a title.

Mike

I think you still need a wing scorer that's better than Jeff Green, but yeah...  that's a nice young (but experienced) core. 

[GreenWarrior]

I think we are missing one question here with these scenarios:


Which bad contract do the Celtics take back? 


(and give up the pipe dream of sending out Wallace)



For example
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kqfrpls


Where the Celtics use all three TE.


Love, Martin (TE 1), Shved (TE 2) and Turiaf (TE 3)

for

Bass, Bogan, and Sullinger (plus three picks unless the Celtics offer a top 3 pick this year)

this and we need to know love will sign here before we even trade for him. getting 1 season outta this guy isn't worth it.

I disagree. I would pull the trigger anyways and then cash in the rest of our assets to try to build a team around him and Rondo that would make them both want to stick around. You get nowhere if you won't take a risk.

it depends on what else we're getting if we're giving up that much. other than melo(which I could do without) I don't think there's much out there that teams are willing to give up. it sounds like a nice dream with not much reality involved.

but I still(even if we were able to)believe it's way too much to give up for one season. i'd rather just do a slow build if that were the case. because 5 - 6 yrs. from now we'd likely be in a similar situation but with a better chance to be better longer than just 1 season. 

if we can do a sign and trade for love it's a different story. 

[DarkAzcura]

I think we are missing one question here with these scenarios:


Which bad contract do the Celtics take back? 


(and give up the pipe dream of sending out Wallace)



For example
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kqfrpls


Where the Celtics use all three TE.


Love, Martin (TE 1), Shved (TE 2) and Turiaf (TE 3)

for

Bass, Bogan, and Sullinger (plus three picks unless the Celtics offer a top 3 pick this year)

this and we need to know love will sign here before we even trade for him. getting 1 season outta this guy isn't worth it.

I disagree. I would pull the trigger anyways and then cash in the rest of our assets to try to build a team around him and Rondo that would make them both want to stick around. You get nowhere if you won't take a risk.

it depends on what else we're getting if we're giving up that much. other than melo(which I could do without) I don't think there's much out there that teams are willing to give up. it sounds like a nice dream with not much reality involved.

but I still(even if we were able to)believe it's way too much to give up for one season. i'd rather just do a slow build if that were the case. because 5 - 6 yrs. from now we'd likely be in a similar situation but with a better chance to be better longer than just 1 season. 

if we can do a sign and trade for love it's a different story.

Totally with you, but Vecsey just tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/PeterVecsey1/status/468411382074183680

[D.o.s.]

This is when we play Consider The Source.

[DarkAzcura]

This is when we play Consider The Source.

Yeah, I knew I'd get that because it is Vecsey, but he was 100% on about the Crawford trade before it happened. That was the most unexpected trade at the most random time, but he called it.

The guy has sources for sure..he's off a lot, but he's connected.

[WeMadeIt17]

Now the owner of the Twolves came out and said no deal before the draft? This is gonna get interesting.

[fairweatherfan]

Now the owner of the Twolves came out and said no deal before the draft? This is gonna get interesting.

Draft day deal is the only way the Wolves could get picks in consecutive years from the same team.  Plus they can see which players are available at whatever pick they get.  It expands their options quite a bit, so not a big surprise.

[Monkhouse]

Now the owner of the Twolves came out and said no deal before the draft? This is gonna get interesting.

Of course hes gonna say that.

Despite any reports or whatever rumors are running amuck, Saunders know Love isn't going to stay. If he doesn't trade before the trade deadline, that is also going to ruin the price and value of Love.

Now the owner of the Twolves came out and said no deal before the draft? This is gonna get interesting.

Draft day deal is the only way the Wolves could get picks in consecutive years from the same team.  Plus they can see which players are available at whatever pick they get.  It expands their options quite a bit, so not a big surprise.

This too.