Kevin Love per Wojnarowski

[Chief Macho]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

[CoachBo]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

[D.o.s.]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

[CoachBo]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

Probably the same people who think Rondo's better than Kevin Love.

Thanks for reminding me. A hearty laugh a day is good for the health.

[gpap]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

If the Celts could acquire Love and then one or two other decent pieces, they'd be alot better than the Atlanta Hawks in the lackluster East.

[D.o.s.]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

Probably the same people who think Rondo's better than Kevin Love.

Thanks for reminding me. A hearty laugh a day is good for the health.

Clearly you don't watch enough Timberwolves games.

I remain convinced that a larger reason why  CB posters don't shovel on the usual shots at Love (complains about calls, doesn't play defense, injury prone, stat padder, etc.) are because they don't have the regular opportunity to see him in action.

[Monkhouse]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

Probably the same people who think Rondo's better than Kevin Love.

Thanks for reminding me. A hearty laugh a day is good for the health.

Clearly you don't watch enough Timberwolves games.

I remain convinced that a larger reason why  CB posters don't shovel on the usual shots at Love (complains about calls, doesn't play defense, injury prone, stat padder, etc.) are because they don't have the regular opportunity to see him in action.

I have watched about 56 games of the Wolves...

Do you know exactly what I see? I see a PG that is afraid to take shots, and has turned it over once or twice a game due to the inability to be confident in his shot. Martin can't guard a fly, and Pekovic is a slow lumbering Center who seems always a step late contesting players who beat Martin/Rubio on the drive....

Do you know when Love is off the floor, the Wolves look absolutely lost on offense?

[D.o.s.]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

Probably the same people who think Rondo's better than Kevin Love.

Thanks for reminding me. A hearty laugh a day is good for the health.

Clearly you don't watch enough Timberwolves games.

I remain convinced that a larger reason why  CB posters don't shovel on the usual shots at Love (complains about calls, doesn't play defense, injury prone, stat padder, etc.) are because they don't have the regular opportunity to see him in action.

I have watched about 56 games of the Wolves...

Do you know exactly what I see? I see a PG that is afraid to take shots, and has turned it over once or twice a game due to the inability to be confident in his shot. Martin can't guard a fly, and Pekovic is a slow lumbering Center who seems always a step late contesting players who beat Martin/Rubio on the drive....

Do you know when Love is off the floor, the Wolves look absolutely lost on offense?

For sure.

I'll readily concede the fact that Love is probably the best PF that's available (and probably the fifth or sixth best in the league, depending on who qualifies as a 4). I don't think that adding him to this roster makes our team all that much better than the current T-Wolves squad, who were nothing special to watch last season -- and that's after watching all but 10 or 12 of their regular season games last year.

I think that the primary need for the C's is to find a wing player who can create his own shot, not the uber-stretch 4 that Love is. And, again, if he does end up in Celtics green, I'll root for him, but I don't think he'll be the bump that many are predicting.

Obviously, I'm happy to be wrong about that.

[Monkhouse]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

Probably the same people who think Rondo's better than Kevin Love.

Thanks for reminding me. A hearty laugh a day is good for the health.

Clearly you don't watch enough Timberwolves games.

I remain convinced that a larger reason why  CB posters don't shovel on the usual shots at Love (complains about calls, doesn't play defense, injury prone, stat padder, etc.) are because they don't have the regular opportunity to see him in action.

I have watched about 56 games of the Wolves...

Do you know exactly what I see? I see a PG that is afraid to take shots, and has turned it over once or twice a game due to the inability to be confident in his shot. Martin can't guard a fly, and Pekovic is a slow lumbering Center who seems always a step late contesting players who beat Martin/Rubio on the drive....

Do you know when Love is off the floor, the Wolves look absolutely lost on offense?

For sure.

I'll readily concede the fact that Love is probably the best PF that's available in trade talks. I don't think that adding him to this roster makes our team all that much better than the current T-Wolves squad, who were nothing special to watch last season -- and that's after watching all but 10 or 12 of their regular season games last year.

I think that the primary need for the C's is to find a wing player who can create his own shot, not the uber-stretch 4 that Love is. And, again, if he does end up in Celtics green, I'll root for him, but I don't think he'll be the bump that many are predicting.

Obviously, I'm happy to be wrong about that.

I understand your concerns. But the issue isn't just obtaining Love. Its a step in the right direction towards Banner #18. The only thing I care about is us winning. Grabbing Love will not only elevate our games, in the weak EC, a team of Rondo/Love/Asik can easily be a 3rd-5th team. There is nothing wrong with that, because 3 things.

1) Rondo is infinitely better than Rubio. I swear the 56 games I've watched of Rubio... He constantly looks for a open man. Rondo is a better player, because while he looks for the open man, Rondo also sees openings in the defense. Rubio can't drive. If anyone tries to tell me that, I'll say you're lying, and have no clue how insecure Rubio is about his overall offensive game.

2) I think people need to tamper expectations of Love. We don't know if he can succeed as the go to guy. What I do know is Love/Rondo will be a deadly duo. I think Rondo is 2x better than Rubio. In all honesty, the roster of the Timberwolves don't have good defenders. Love still held his own defensively on the boards, and was still pretty decent in defending post ups from other bigs.

3) Getting Love is not just a step in the right direction, it gives us the superstar/Allstar we needed for so long. Plus, this opens up new doors for free agents who are interested in joining Rondo/Love.

[Neurotic Guy]

Does anyone else think it's pretty amazing that a year after blowing up our core, we are (a) in possession of enough assets to trade for a legit MVP candidate without surrendering our best player, and (b) viewed as an attractive destination for that player?

Regardless of what happens, I think you have to give Ainge tons of credit for putting us in this situation.

I think it lends support to letting a gm have time on the job.   Ainge obviously learned a ton from his early run and figured out a way to quickly re-position himself with the current rules.   It's also  just more proof that a sports franchise is only as good as it's front office and owners relationship.

Excellent post, and I agree completely.

Yet a lot of folks here don't get it - they think, and want, Ainge to draft his way out of the current downturn. I've read multiple "forget Love and keep our assets" posts from people who just don't get it.

There are also the posters that think adding Love to this team in place of our current assets would make us about as good as the Atlanta Hawks, but probably worse.

Probably the same people who think Rondo's better than Kevin Love.

Thanks for reminding me. A hearty laugh a day is good for the health.

Clearly you don't watch enough Timberwolves games.

I remain convinced that a larger reason why  CB posters don't shovel on the usual shots at Love (complains about calls, doesn't play defense, injury prone, stat padder, etc.) are because they don't have the regular opportunity to see him in action.

I have watched about 56 games of the Wolves...

Do you know exactly what I see? I see a PG that is afraid to take shots, and has turned it over once or twice a game due to the inability to be confident in his shot. Martin can't guard a fly, and Pekovic is a slow lumbering Center who seems always a step late contesting players who beat Martin/Rubio on the drive....

Do you know when Love is off the floor, the Wolves look absolutely lost on offense?

For sure.

I'll readily concede the fact that Love is probably the best PF that's available (and probably the fifth or sixth best in the league, depending on who qualifies as a 4). I don't think that adding him to this roster makes our team all that much better than the current T-Wolves squad, who were nothing special to watch last season -- and that's after watching all but 10 or 12 of their regular season games last year.

I think that the primary need for the C's is to find a wing player who can create his own shot, not the uber-stretch 4 that Love is. And, again, if he does end up in Celtics green, I'll root for him, but I don't think he'll be the bump that many are predicting.

Obviously, I'm happy to be wrong about that.

Is there any one single attainable player that will give the C's a bump to contention?   I don't think so.   If the C's mentality is a 1-2 year rebuild as opposed to a 4-6 year rebuild, there isn't a single player attainable player that will turn this around alone. 

Love, for the right price, is a fantastic piece.  The right price is that the C's retain the assets to  snag another star-level swingman and a defensive center.

[D.o.s.]

I agree with both of those posts, and especially this bit:

Love, for the right price, is a fantastic piece.  The right price is that the C's retain the assets to  snag another star-level swingman and a defensive center.

Even if I still hate the idea of bringing him to the Celtics because he's yucky. 

[Monkhouse]

I agree with both of those posts, and especially this bit:

Love, for the right price, is a fantastic piece.  The right price is that the C's retain the assets to  snag another star-level swingman and a defensive center.

Even if I still hate the idea of bringing him to the Celtics because he's yucky. 

B-B-B-But... all you need is LOVE!

[D.o.s.]

The second most annoying Beatles song ever, narrowly beaten out by Yellow Submarine.


...we all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine...

[Smokeeye123]

I trust Ainge and company over any of the couch GMs on here. If he trades for Love I trust it's the right move. If he doesn't, I trust that it's the right move.

[2short]

The second most annoying Beatles song ever, narrowly beaten out by Yellow Submarine.


...we all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine...

there is nothing you can sing that can't be sung?? cmon
yellow submarine was for kids