Will Embiid "back" into being picked by Celtics?

[footey]

Embiid did not show up at the combine, and has not released any medical records on his back so far.  According to Chad Ford, he has the right under medical privacy laws not to share his medical file with any teams, and his agent may use this right to keep him from being drafted by a team (hello, Milwaukee? Utah?) that he does not want to play for.  According to Ford, no way a team drafts him without first reviewing his medical records.

Just something to keep in mind if he likes the Celtics, and they don't land a top 3 pick.  He would obviously be a great fit here, and having Rondo as his PG who can feed him easy buckets might look quite attractive to him.

[saltlover]

I think we'll have a better feel for this after the lottery.  If Milwaukee or Utah win #1 overall, I doubt agents will refuse those teams the medical records.

[footey]

I think we'll have a better feel for this after the lottery.  If Milwaukee or Utah win #1 overall, I doubt agents will refuse those teams the medical records.

If he doesn't want to play there, he might. Why not?

[CelticD]

...and his agent may use this right to keep him from being drafted by a team (hello, Milwaukee? Utah?) that he does not want to play for.

how does that work? once a team he doesnt want to play for has already picked, he could just reveal his medical records to the teams he wants to play for?

[oldutican]

Doesn't he lose money if he is picked 5th rather than 1st? That would discourage him from trying to avoid the team with top pick.

[footey]

...and his agent may use this right to keep him from being drafted by a team (hello, Milwaukee? Utah?) that he does not want to play for.

how does that work? once a team he doesnt want to play for has already picked, he could just reveal his medical records to the teams he wants to play for?

It's not what he would do after he is picked, but before. If a team does not have access to his medical records before selecting him, it is not likely they will pick him.

[footey]

Doesn't he lose money if he is picked 5th rather than 1st? That would discourage him from trying to avoid the team with top pick.

Yes, but I don't think the salary slot between the 1st and 5th pick is very dramatic, and only applies to his rookie contract.  I doubt a player with his projected stardom would relinquish this type of control over the slotted difference in salary.

[footey]

He is represented by Arn Tellum, notorious for controlling information to get his clients to a particular team in the draft. For example, he represented Kobe in 1996, and refused a number of pre-draft workouts with teams so that he could get him taken by the Lakers pursuant to a trade with the Charlotte Hornets. 

He has a lot of ties to Los Angeles (helped Clippers move from San Diego to LA, and the Lakers connection I just mentioned with Kobe). Here is hoping he doesn't use his ploy to convince Milwaukee or another top 3 team to swap first round picks with the Lakers so that the Lakers can draft him, although I don't know what the Lakers could possibly offer (assuming they are slotted 6-8), besides Kobe!! future first round picks would be pretty weak upgrade.

[oldutican]

The difference over 4 years in the 1st and 5th pick appears to be $7.5 million. Not chump change.
http://www.spotrac.com/draft-tracker/nba/

[CelticD]

...and his agent may use this right to keep him from being drafted by a team (hello, Milwaukee? Utah?) that he does not want to play for.

how does that work? once a team he doesnt want to play for has already picked, he could just reveal his medical records to the teams he wants to play for?

It's not what he would do after he is picked, but before. If a team does not have access to his medical records before selecting him, it is not likely they will pick him.

nah i get that. but im sayin sumthin like withdrawing medical info so u dont get drafted by a team you dont like seems like it can backfire easily. cuz that may also deter teams that he wants to play for from drafting him.

[LooseCannon]

...and his agent may use this right to keep him from being drafted by a team (hello, Milwaukee? Utah?) that he does not want to play for.

how does that work? once a team he doesnt want to play for has already picked, he could just reveal his medical records to the teams he wants to play for?

It's not what he would do after he is picked, but before. If a team does not have access to his medical records before selecting him, it is not likely they will pick him.

nah i get that. but im sayin sumthin like withdrawing medical info so u dont get drafted by a team you dont like seems like it can backfire easily. cuz that may also deter teams that he wants to play for from drafting him.

He would be selectively sharing his medical records only with teams that he is willing to be drafted by and forces teams he doesn't like to be willing to take him without looking at his medical records if they want to draft him.

[colincb]

Ignoring conspiracy theories and the unlikely odds that we stay at 5, there's a chance.  Supposedly Wiggins is atop many draft boards, with Parker not far beyond as the "surest" thing in the draft.  Chris Ford has been trumpeting Exum to ORL which leaves UTA picking 4th with a choice between Randle, Embiid, Smart, Gordon, and Vonleh. According to a post on one UTA board, Ford says Embiid wants to play right away which would seemingly rule out UTA (and ORL) with Favors and Kanter both listed as Centers.

HOWEVER, it's moot until the lottery and while Wiggins appears likely in the top 2, I wouldn't rule Embiid going before Parker who is rumored to be 20 LBs overweight (not smart if true).

[hwangjini_1]

Doesn't he lose money if he is picked 5th rather than 1st? That would discourage him from trying to avoid the team with top pick.

this gives the cumulative salary for each first round draft slot for their first 4 years. being the #1 overall would give a player about $7,000,000 over the 5th pick by the end of the first 4 years. so, yes, it is a lot of money.

but then on the other hand, being picked 5th by a team you like still provides you with over $14,000,000 after four years, so it does not appear as if poverty will be knocking at your door after 4 years.

the web page has a more readable version and more info, should you wish to go there.

http://chickennoodlehoop.com/category/2014-nba-draft/

Pick   Year 1   Year 2   Year 3   Year 4

1   $5,510,640    $11,269,320   $17,275,920   $21,784,935

2   $4,930,560    $10,083,000   $15,457,320   $19,507,138

3   $4,427,640    $9,054,600   $13,880,760   $17,545,281

4   $3,992,040    $8,163,720   $12,515,040   $15,831,526

5   $3,615,000    $7,392,720   $11,333,040   $14,358,962

6   $3,283,320    $6,714,360   $10,293,240   $13,051,828

7   $2,997,360    $6,129,600   $9,396,720    $11,933,834

8   $2,745,840    $5,615,280   $8,608,320    $10,949,783

9   $2,524,200    $5,161,920   $7,913,280    $10,081,519

10   $2,397,840    $4,903,560   $7,517,160    $9,584,379

11   $2,277,960    $4,658,400   $7,141,440    $9,476,691

12   $2,164,080    $4,425,600   $6,784,440    $9,348,958

13   $2,055,840    $4,204,200   $6,445,080    $9,210,019

14   $1,953,120 $3,994,200   $6,123,120    $9,068,341

15   $1,855,320    $3,794,160   $5,816,400    $8,916,541

16   $1,762,680    $3,604,680   $5,526,000 $8,476,884

17   $1,674,480    $3,424,320   $5,249,520    $8,063,263

18   $1,590,720    $3,253,080   $4,986,960    $7,669,944

19   $1,519,200    $3,106,680   $4,762,560    $7,334,342

20   $1,458,360    $2,982,360   $4,572,000 $7,050,024

21   $1,400,040    $2,863,080   $4,389,120    $6,991,868

22   $1,344,120    $2,748,720   $4,213,800    $6,931,701

23   $1,290,360    $2,638,800   $4,045,320    $6,864,908

24   $1,238,640    $2,533,080   $3,883,200    $6,791,717

25   $1,189,200    $2,431,920   $3,728,160    $6,714,416

26   $1,149,720    $2,351,160   $3,604,320 $6,498,589

27   $1,116,600    $2,283,360   $3,500,400    $6,314,722

28   $1,109,760    $2,269,440   $3,479,040    $6,279,667

29   $1,101,600    $2,252,880   $3,453,720    $6,233,965

30   $1,093,680    $2,236,560   $3,428,640    $6,188,695

[footey]

The difference over 4 years in the 1st and 5th pick appears to be $7.5 million. Not chump change.
http://www.spotrac.com/draft-tracker/nba/

More than I thought.  But if he used the control of the information to work out a trade (say between Milwaukee at 1, the Celtics at 5), Embiid would be the first pick but end up in Boston.  Remember, Milwaukee would not necessarily know whether Boston has access to the report (I'm assuming they would). Obviously there is a lot of speculation here, but that is what makes it fun. This is as close as we get to playing GM!!

[pearljammer10]

Has any player even done this before in the NBA to anyone's knowledge? It just doesn't seem logical to me...

To willingly take yourself out of the running to be the first, second, or third pick in a draft, regardless of what team it is, seems a little absurd to me.