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Re: Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2014, 04:23:11 PM »

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I like AB and want to see him back next year.

I am confident that DA also likes AB but is going to let his free agency play out in hopes of bettering the Cs negotiating point. Let the market dictate his value. I ultimately think he will sign around the 6mill per year previously mentioned and settle into a role of 6th man bringing both defensive energy and scoring off the bench.
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Re: Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2014, 05:19:03 PM »

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I dont know what NBA Finals you all watched in 2010, but Tony Allen was on the Celtics team that I watched.  So youre whole we made the finals without Tony Allen theory just went right out the window.

I think youre thinking of James Posey.  We did make the Finals without him after Ainge let him walk
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Re: Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2014, 05:34:37 PM »

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sign and trade? maybe with Chicago?

Re: Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2014, 05:55:33 PM »

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nor should they.  They never should have even offered 4 years, 24 million for a role player on a team full of role players.

Yup....that pretty much is the bottom line.

We need To dump the baggage , and sign a couple serious elite talent , THEN fill in the blanks with role players.

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« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2014, 11:02:05 PM »

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I suspect that Ainge would match a full MLE contract, but his goal is to try to get Bradley on something shorter than four years or with the fourth year unguaranteed.  If I were Ainge, I would consider overpaying a bit to get the final year unguaranteed or mostly unguaranteed.

Bradley's next contract should be based on the premise that he can raise his 3P% to 41-42% and add 1-3 ppg.

A 17 a game scorer who plays elite defense would be a little more than the MLE.

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« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2014, 11:56:42 PM »

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nor should they.  They never should have even offered 4 years, 24 million for a role player on a team full of role players.

Yup....that pretty much is the bottom line.

We need To dump the baggage , and sign a couple serious elite talent , THEN fill in the blanks with role players.

What's being ignored is that to get something, you usually need to give something and that means you need something to give.  You need talent to attract talent.  To make a trade, you need something someone else wants.  Let Bradley walk and not only is that yet another hole on the roster to fill but it's one less asset for a any future deal.  Cap space is useless if no one wants to be on your team.

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« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2014, 12:44:36 AM »

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sign and trade? maybe with Chicago?

I could see sending Bradley to the Tom Thibodeau Finishing School for Backup Point Guards, a fine institution featuring such esteemed alumni as Nate Robinson, DJ Augustine, Kirk Henrich, and John Lucas III?

At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2014, 07:25:06 AM »

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I like Gary Harris in the draft as a cheaper option to Bradley if we let him walk. Unfortunately, 5 is too early to draft GH and 17 is probably too late.
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Re: Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley
« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2014, 08:26:21 AM »

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Bradley screwed himself big time by turning that contract down in the first place. 

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« Reply #54 on: May 07, 2014, 08:39:59 AM »

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I suspect that Ainge would match a full MLE contract, but his goal is to try to get Bradley on something shorter than four years or with the fourth year unguaranteed.  If I were Ainge, I would consider overpaying a bit to get the final year unguaranteed or mostly unguaranteed.

Bradley's next contract should be based on the premise that he can raise his 3P% to 41-42% and add 1-3 ppg.

A 17 a game scorer who plays elite defense would be a little more than the MLE.
who is going to pay him that?
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Re: Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley
« Reply #55 on: May 07, 2014, 09:29:10 AM »

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I suspect that Ainge would match a full MLE contract, but his goal is to try to get Bradley on something shorter than four years or with the fourth year unguaranteed.  If I were Ainge, I would consider overpaying a bit to get the final year unguaranteed or mostly unguaranteed.

Bradley's next contract should be based on the premise that he can raise his 3P% to 41-42% and add 1-3 ppg.

A 17 a game scorer who plays elite defense would be a little more than the MLE.
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« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2014, 09:47:46 AM »

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Bradleys in the Jeff green category with me...tired of waiting for the potential to come through.  Ready to lve on and give someone else a shot.

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« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2014, 01:54:45 PM »

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Bradley is a volume shooter and the more shot he takes his defense becomes worse
he will regret for turning down the previous contract

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« Reply #58 on: May 08, 2014, 08:30:04 AM »

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nor should they.  They never should have even offered 4 years, 24 million for a role player on a team full of role players.

Yup....that pretty much is the bottom line.

We need To dump the baggage , and sign a couple serious elite talent , THEN fill in the blanks with role players.

Ok, so lets say you "dump the baggage" so to speak.  Who exactly do you intend on starting at the SG spot in Bradley's absence, assuming we dont get Wiggins/Exum/Smart in the draft?

Take in to account the fact that Boston has Bradley's bird rights, so they can go over the cap to sign him.  That's not the case for any other free agents, which means (after all the cap holds etc) if Boston lets AB walk, they proboably won't be able to pay more than the MLE for a replacement SG.  Who in next year's free agent class do you see who we could sign for ~$5M at most, who would be more productive than Bradley?

That's not even taking into account his upside.

Answer is: nobody.

On a Per 36-minute basis Bradley is a 17 PPG (45%/40%/80%), RPG player who ranks top 10 among shooting guards in almost every statistical category (except assists) and who was an All-Defensive Team selection only one season back, and who is only 23 years old.

Nobody is getting him for the MLE.  Somebody will offer him at least $7M, and he may get as much as $8M-$10M.

The fact that he is young and a role player actually fits Boston perfectly.  Boston is in a rebuilding period and what are they looking for?  Young players with upside.  Bradley took major strides in his game last season, and if he continues to impove at that rate the next team that signs him will get a major bargain.

Think of how much Eric Gordon is being paid right now regardless of his injury history (which is just as bad a AB's).  Then consider the fact that Bradley scored just as much as Gordon last season, but did so with greater efficiency.  Then factor in that Bradley actually plays defense.  Yeah...$6M is a pipe dream. 

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« Reply #59 on: May 08, 2014, 08:30:26 AM »

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Bradley screwed himself big time by turning that contract down in the first place.

Why?  He's going to get more than that on the free agent market.