Report: C's unlikely to return to 4-year, $24mill deal for Bradley

[BleedGreen1989]

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24552112/report-celtics-unlikely-to-return-to-4-year-24-million-offer-for-bradley

One of the biggest question marks of the offseason.

I personally would love to have Avery back, at around $5mill.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Meh. Whatever DA wants to do. he can get rid of everyone on the team for all I care IF it makes us better.

[wdleehi]

Didn't Bradley recently say he had not received a contract offer from the Celtics yet?  That they were "waiting for the market" to set his price.



I still think if he gets more then half the value of the MLE, his agent did well for him.  I do want him back for the Celtics. 

[Moranis]

nor should they.  They never should have even offered 4 years, 24 million for a role player on a team full of role players. 

[slamtheking]

nor should they.  They never should have even offered 4 years, 24 million for a role player on a team full of role players. 

agreed.  $12 for 3 years would be about right for him.

[the_Bird]

...  I can't say I was overwhelmed with Bradley's performance last year, but he's a 23 year old kid that's increased his scoring average every year, has been one of the best defensive guards in the league, and who hit 40% of his three pointers last year.  He also seems like a good kid, who doesn't get himself in trouble off the court and who seemed to respond well to coaching.

He's got flaws, notable the injuries.  He looked to be jacking some shots last year, but it's hard to know if that was something he was forcing or something the coaching staff wanted him to do (he was one of the C's best offensive players). 

But, if you think you're getting this kid for 3/$12....  forget about that.  Too young, too talented, too much upside.  He'd fit on a young team like the C's looking to rebuild, or as a bulldog defensive combo guard for contenders.  If he'd sign a 3/$12M deal, you'd sign him to that in a cocaine heartbeat, but that's irrelevant because that's not happening.  The question is whether Danny wants to match when the offers start coming in at the full MLE or above.

[pearljammer10]

Best news I've heard all year.

[wdleehi]

...  I can't say I was overwhelmed with Bradley's performance last year, but he's a 23 year old kid that's increased his scoring average every year, has been one of the best defensive guards in the league, and who hit 40% of his three pointers last year.  He also seems like a good kid, who doesn't get himself in trouble off the court and who seemed to respond well to coaching.

He's got flaws, notable the injuries.  He looked to be jacking some shots last year, but it's hard to know if that was something he was forcing or something the coaching staff wanted him to do (he was one of the C's best offensive players). 

But, if you think you're getting this kid for 3/$12....  forget about that.  Too young, too talented, too much upside.  He'd fit on a young team like the C's looking to rebuild, or as a bulldog defensive combo guard for contenders.  If he'd sign a 3/$12M deal, you'd sign him to that in a cocaine heartbeat, but that's irrelevant because that's not happening.  The question is whether Danny wants to match when the offers start coming in at the full MLE or above.

What team is offering that type of money? 

[Eja117]

I don't think he'll be back. It only takes one team to over pay. He's young and continues to improve and plays really really good D (or at least he used to).

They should make him a fair offer ...like 5.5mill per for 3 years....then subtract the money by 25% because in four years he's never played more than 60 games. Then put health based incentives in there for him to catch up. If he doesn't like it that's why we have a ton of draft picks.

[the_Bird]

...  I can't say I was overwhelmed with Bradley's performance last year, but he's a 23 year old kid that's increased his scoring average every year, has been one of the best defensive guards in the league, and who hit 40% of his three pointers last year.  He also seems like a good kid, who doesn't get himself in trouble off the court and who seemed to respond well to coaching.

He's got flaws, notable the injuries.  He looked to be jacking some shots last year, but it's hard to know if that was something he was forcing or something the coaching staff wanted him to do (he was one of the C's best offensive players). 

But, if you think you're getting this kid for 3/$12....  forget about that.  Too young, too talented, too much upside.  He'd fit on a young team like the C's looking to rebuild, or as a bulldog defensive combo guard for contenders.  If he'd sign a 3/$12M deal, you'd sign him to that in a cocaine heartbeat, but that's irrelevant because that's not happening.  The question is whether Danny wants to match when the offers start coming in at the full MLE or above.

What team is offering that type of money?

Let me hit my Rolodex and I'll let you know.

I don't see any reason that AB would only get about half of Tony Allen's contract (TA was what, 4/$20?).  TA's more valuable defensively because he's bigger and can match up against more players, but he's also eight years older, has no real "upside" at this point, has had his own injury issues over the years...  and shot 12% and 23% from deep these past two years.  AB's a flawed player, but AB >>> TA offensively.

And...  pretty much any team in the league can use a player like AB, either in a starting role like for the C's last year, or as a third guard who can be a game-changer defensively.

3/$12 is a pipe dream.

[Celtics18]

I want Avery back.

[Eddie20]

Bradley catches a lot of criticism here, but he's improving yearly and according to both Ainge and Stevens he will focus on attacking and creating from the pick and roll all summer. If he takes that next step, which I wouldn't doubt, then we can be getting a real bargain on him. Regardless, he's still a very young player (23) that averaged 15 ppg on 44% from the field, 80% from the line, and 40% from 3's. If he were on another team we would probably think of him in a lot higher regard.

[D.o.s.]

Bradley catches a lot of criticism here, but he's improving yearly and according to both Ainge and Stevens he will focus on attacking and creating from the pick and roll all summer. If he takes that next step, which I wouldn't doubt, then we can be getting a real bargain on him. Regardless, he's still a very young player (23) that averaged 15 ppg on 44% from the field, 80% from the line, and 40% from 3's. If he were on another team we would probably think of him in a lot higher regard.

If he were on another team half of the forum would want to trade him for Rondo and the other half would denigrate him relentlessly.

[Moranis]

a full MLE offer is a bit less than the 4 years, 24 million already offered to Bradley.  I could see a contender offering him that as a combo first guard off the bench type player, but I can't see a team with cap space offering Bradley a big contract.  He isn't that type of player. 

[the_Bird]

Bradley catches a lot of criticism here, but he's improving yearly and according to both Ainge and Stevens he will focus on attacking and creating from the pick and roll all summer. If he takes that next step, which I wouldn't doubt, then we can be getting a real bargain on him. Regardless, he's still a very young player (23) that averaged 15 ppg on 44% from the field, 80% from the line, and 40% from 3's. If he were on another team we would probably think of him in a lot higher regard.

The criticism is both valid and overdone.  AB's a flawed player, but he's 23...  he's gotten better, he'll keep getting better.  And, he does a lot of things really well already.  I'd like to have him back, I think Danny would like to have him back, but he's going to get some offers this summer.