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Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2014, 04:52:40 PM »

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We all saw what Simmons said about this last month:

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Here?s the problem with trading Rondo ? he?s never re-signing in Sacramento, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland or wherever. None of those teams are overpaying to rent Rondo for a year. Boston?s best chance on decent value: If Houston flames out in Round 1, maybe send Rondo there for Jeremy Lin?s expiring deal, Chandler Parsons and Houston?s first-rounder. I can?t see them doing better, especially with how Rondo has looked lately ? he?s been their best tanking asset down the stretch, hands down. Nobody else comes close. ****ty attitude, sloppy ballhandling, horrific defense, inexplicable decision-making, ugly shooting ? he?s doing it all. Down the stretch, it?s like he studied tape of the game Tony threw in Blue Chips, then said, ?I?m gonna throw in Brandon Jennings?s shot selection for good measure.? If we get the no. 1 pick, they should retire Rondo?s number next October.

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Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2014, 04:56:17 PM »

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We all saw what Simmons said about this last month:

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Here?s the problem with trading Rondo ? he?s never re-signing in Sacramento, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland or wherever. None of those teams are overpaying to rent Rondo for a year. Boston?s best chance on decent value: If Houston flames out in Round 1, maybe send Rondo there for Jeremy Lin?s expiring deal, Chandler Parsons and Houston?s first-rounder. I can?t see them doing better, especially with how Rondo has looked lately ? he?s been their best tanking asset down the stretch, hands down. Nobody else comes close. ****ty attitude, sloppy ballhandling, horrific defense, inexplicable decision-making, ugly shooting ? he?s doing it all. Down the stretch, it?s like he studied tape of the game Tony threw in Blue Chips, then said, ?I?m gonna throw in Brandon Jennings?s shot selection for good measure.? If we get the no. 1 pick, they should retire Rondo?s number next October.

Trying to make Bill Simmons the most hated person on this blog, eh?

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6-24 this season with Rondo on the court. 

That's a 16 win pace had he played all season. 

I don't think teams are lining up to trade for him.  I don't think he'll be moved.  I'm sure he's available, though. 

Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2014, 04:56:59 PM »

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Its simply due diligence. Most if not every GM is probably and has probably called on Rondo at one point in time or another over the last 4 years. My guess is the calls go something like this:

Danny: Hello

Other GM: Het Danny! Its _______________

Danny: Oh hey, what's up?

Other GM: Is Rondo available.

Danny: Depends. Are you offering me just one player that is better than Rondo? Yes

Other GM: No. I just have a couple guys who's salary matches Rondo's. What do you want

Danny: How about Lin + Asik's expiring and Parsons for Rondo and Green Wallace.

Other GM: Okay.  I'll think about it.
Fixed

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Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2014, 05:00:29 PM »

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We all saw what Simmons said about this last month:

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Here?s the problem with trading Rondo ? he?s never re-signing in Sacramento, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland or wherever. None of those teams are overpaying to rent Rondo for a year. Boston?s best chance on decent value: If Houston flames out in Round 1, maybe send Rondo there for Jeremy Lin?s expiring deal, Chandler Parsons and Houston?s first-rounder. I can?t see them doing better, especially with how Rondo has looked lately ? he?s been their best tanking asset down the stretch, hands down. Nobody else comes close. ****ty attitude, sloppy ballhandling, horrific defense, inexplicable decision-making, ugly shooting ? he?s doing it all. Down the stretch, it?s like he studied tape of the game Tony threw in Blue Chips, then said, ?I?m gonna throw in Brandon Jennings?s shot selection for good measure.? If we get the no. 1 pick, they should retire Rondo?s number next October.

Trying to make Bill Simmons the most hated person on this blog, eh?

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6-24 this season with Rondo on the court. 

That's a 16 win pace had he played all season. 

I don't think teams are lining up to trade for him.  I don't think he'll be moved.  I'm sure he's available, though.

I'm sure almost everybody in the league is available for the right price.  If folks are shopping for Rondo, the price will be very high as it has always been.  That's why he's been a Celtic for eight years now.

I love how some folks consistently read that as Danny being desperate to get rid of Rondo, but nobody else wants him so we've been stuck with him all these years. 

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Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2014, 05:18:01 PM »

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Its simply due diligence. Most if not every GM is probably and has probably called on Rondo at one point in time or another over the last 4 years. My guess is the calls go something like this:

Danny: Hello

Other GM: Het Danny! Its _______________

Danny: Oh hey, what's up?

Other GM: Is Rondo available.

Danny: Depends. Are you offering me just one player that is better than Rondo? Yes

Other GM: No. I just have a couple guys who's salary matches Rondo's. What do you want

Danny: How about Lin + Asik's expiring and Parsons for Rondo and Green.

Other GM: Okay.  I'll think about it.
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5 years later and still calling for a Rondo trade and think Ainge is actually shopping him, huh LB? How many deadlines have to pass with Rondo on this team and how many seasons have to start with Rondo on this team before it sinks in that your idea that Ainge is constantly shopping Rondo is a fantasy?

No way Ainge makes that trade you just "fixed" my post with. None whatsoever.
Definitely not a fantasy.  Rondo has been available for years.  Nobody has been willing to give up anything for him, though.  Ainge wouldn't have just traded him for the sake of trading him.

I don't think he'll be traded this offseason.  Doubt anyone will offer anything worthwhile.  I think we'll keep him until he's a free agent.

  Obviously a fantasy. Everything in your post is pure speculation, and the fact that your predictions about Rondo being on his way out the door have been wrong time after time doesn't help bolster your claim either.


Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2014, 05:28:18 PM »

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Remember that time Menphis offered Conkey, Gay  for Rondo. But nope, he's totally undervalued around the league and Danny would trade him for just about anything
« Last Edit: May 04, 2014, 05:34:12 PM by KCattheStripe »

Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2014, 05:46:35 PM »

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I didn't see it when he said that about Rondo.  Was he ever even a fan of the guy?  He talked about Rondo like he's talking about a pointguard of a team he really hates.  Wow.

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Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2014, 05:49:41 PM »

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More Rondo rumors  :(
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Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2014, 05:51:26 PM »

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Its simply due diligence. Most if not every GM is probably and has probably called on Rondo at one point in time or another over the last 4 years. My guess is the calls go something like this:

Danny: Hello

Other GM: Het Danny! Its _______________

Danny: Oh hey, what's up?

Other GM: Is Rondo available.

Danny: Depends. Are you offering me just one player that is better than Rondo? Yes

Other GM: No. I just have a couple guys who's salary matches Rondo's. What do you want

Danny: How about Lin + Asik's expiring and Parsons for Rondo and Green.

Other GM: Okay.  I'll think about it.
Fixed
5 years later and still calling for a Rondo trade and think Ainge is actually shopping him, huh LB? How many deadlines have to pass with Rondo on this team and how many seasons have to start with Rondo on this team before it sinks in that your idea that Ainge is constantly shopping Rondo is a fantasy?

No way Ainge makes that trade you just "fixed" my post with. None whatsoever.

He would obviously move him for the right price. The problem is that most C's fans have unrealistic expectations of Rondo would fetch in a trade. Rondo's value, coming off of knee surgery, lacking explosiveness, having a contract that will soon expire, and looking for max to near max money isn't as an attractive asset as some might think. Conversely, it's now as low as some might perceive. However, as usually the case, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

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When asked if he has spoken with Rondo about the guard?s long-term future in Boston, Ainge said: ?Listen, I tell everybody the same, whether it?s KG [Kevin Garnett], Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, whatever, I really love and respect all the guys but I can?t ever promise anybody that [a trade] won?t happen. That?s not my job. My job is not assure them [they?re staying] but to do what I think is best for the Celtics. I don?t have an intention or plan [to trade Rondo] but I can never make that sort of promise.

Re: Really.. noone saw this? Hou to call on Rondo?
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2014, 06:02:11 PM »

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Not sure BS offense plays to rondo's strengths. May need to change the offense or change the player.

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« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2014, 06:36:13 PM »

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Someone please tell me how Rondo helps Rockets. They need depth, better defense and scoring balance. They lose defense with Asik and offense with Parsons.

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« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2014, 06:46:34 PM »

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Nothing against Rondo,  I really like him a lot and hope he stays. .."but somehow I'm just not seeing him surviving a trade out of multiple players by Danny draft night or this summer..


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« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2014, 07:01:32 PM »

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Its simply due diligence. Most if not every GM is probably and has probably called on Rondo at one point in time or another over the last 4 years. My guess is the calls go something like this:

Danny: Hello

Other GM: Het Danny! Its _______________

Danny: Oh hey, what's up?

Other GM: Is Rondo available.

Danny: Depends. Are you offering me just one player that is better than Rondo? Yes

Other GM: No. I just have a couple guys who's salary matches Rondo's. What do you want

Danny: How about Lin + Asik's expiring and Parsons for Rondo and Green.

Other GM: Okay.  I'll think about it.
Fixed
5 years later and still calling for a Rondo trade and think Ainge is actually shopping him, huh LB? How many deadlines have to pass with Rondo on this team and how many seasons have to start with Rondo on this team before it sinks in that your idea that Ainge is constantly shopping Rondo is a fantasy?

No way Ainge makes that trade you just "fixed" my post with. None whatsoever.

He would obviously move him for the right price. The problem is that most C's fans have unrealistic expectations of Rondo would fetch in a trade.

  The real problem is that C's fans have no idea what Rondo would fetch in a trade. You think the fact that Rondo didn't play better than he did coming back from a knee injury means he has low value. I'd say that the fact that he's been such a star in the playoffs shows the opposite. I could pull up tons of articles talking about how high Danny's asking price for Rondo is, much higher than the garbage offers discussed here. I might even be able to dig up one that quoted another GM claiming that Danny would ask for a lot in return for Rondo "as he should".

  But what's the point? We won't know unless a trade happens, and all the posts insisting they have Rondo's value pegged only convince themselves and the people who agree with them. To top it off there"s a catch-22 aspect to things because the people who want to trade him think he's not worth a lot so they come up with deals that generally make terrible sense from a basketball point of view.

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« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2014, 07:21:16 PM »

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If Morey is asking for Rondo AND for the Cs to take on Asik+Lin he needs to send Parsons PLUS their first round picks every othe year until 2050.

The notion that those 14M off-the cap that Lin and Asik will make combined next year isn't money because it doesn't count against the cap is funny, but still nonsense.

Rondo will be a Celtic because no GM is willing to send Ainge's asking price for Rondo.

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« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2014, 08:08:24 PM »

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I like Parsons, but he definitely isn't [alone] worth Rondo. We have one all-star caliber player. The additional plus is he could be a real draw for another all-star. If we trade him for Parsons, we are just making ourselves worse.

Now if they want to make a Green for Parsons switch, I will definitely listen.

Asik and Parson for Rondo and Bass.
I think history has shown that the team who gets the best player in a deal, is the"winner" so to speak. Rondo is an all-star and a champion. I would never do this trade.