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Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2014, 07:11:53 PM »

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I never said that a player can't be a 'nice' player if he can't hit the 3 at a great rate.  Stop putting words in my mouth. 

I am questioning your logic that he will somehow improve as a 3 point shooter once he gets in the NBA because he will have more 'room' to shoot.  Like I said in all the other posts...

Maybe expecting logic is too much.  Maybe we really should draft Randle and play him as a wing (like your other post) as well.  He can rotate with TJ Warren.
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Didn't i already state to you that he is being double teamed frequently right now. What space does he have to shoot the three?? He has hands all over him

In the nba is he going to be double teamed?? I also stated to you when he has some space he can make the three at a decent rate

Do you get it?
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Yeah TJ Warren is getting double teamed beyond the 3 point line all the time.  If he was, he should be leading the nation in assists.  Give me a break with this stuff. 

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2014, 07:26:28 PM »

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Of all the objections you might have to Warren, this one seems silly. he doesn't have nba 3 point range, but who cares.  He has excellent touch and a really solid outside game as well.  He essentially shoots like Dwayne wade.  Maybe he improves and adds a little range.  It's common.

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2014, 10:11:23 PM »

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His stock just sky rocketed!!  Despite getting double teamed and consistently fouled with virtually NO calls by McAdoo, he still drops 36 on UNC.

Man, some of the foul calls against him were utter bull crap.

UNC will not go far in the NCAA tourney with their FT shooting!!!

BTW, I told everyone that Syracuse was a paper tiger and I am sure that no one believed me.  Just saying:-)))

Smitty77

P.S. Sorry for the ramble.  I am peeved that my Wolfpack just got jobbed by the refs AT stinking HOME.  Boy, those refs must have been from around the corner in Chapel Hill!!!!!  I think they had UNC jerseys on underneath the strips.  How in the world does the leading scorer in the ACC who also leads the ACC in FG% NOT get the calls vs. McAdoo, the most overrated BUST in the country????????????????????????????????????????

TJ Warren is a stud and he should be lottery bound!  UNC will be just fine come tourney time, they have one of the best resumes in the country and haven beaten some of the best teams college basketball has to offer ( Duke, Kentucky, UL, MSU). 

McAdoo overrated?  I think you may be the only person in the country that had him rated?

I am sure the Wolfpack will do just fine in the NIT:)  Just be happy that Hairston got kicked off the team because if he was on this team, it would be a wrap and Roy's boys would be cutting down the nets again for the 3rd time in a decade...

I think that UNC should be glad that they did NOT get the death penalty in BOTH basketball and football for players taking courses that were NOT even courses!!!  That is a FACT!!!  And if you think that I am the ONLY one that had McAdoo rated highly, you are gravely mistaken.  Go back and look at where he was rated coming out of high school and get back to me with an apology please.

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hahaha...McAdoo was highly rated out of high school, he is now a junior, the cat is out of the bag.  He was overrated, you are a little late to the game.  Death penalty for the hoops team? give me a break, you clearly have hatred/ jealously for UNC hoops, I can understand when your favorite team will always be a punching bag for a real program...

I do HATE UNC.  You are correct there TT!!!!  My oldest daughter and my oldest brother are Chemical Engineering grads from NC State.  That being said, my second daughter is a senior at UNC and had two classes with James Michael when he was a freshmen and they were fairly good friends, so I am VERY WELL aware of his career, thanks!!!!  I don't just hate Tarheel basketball, I hate every sport at Carolina.

FACTS are stubborn things TT:

http://www.carolinasucks.com/pn/html/index.php

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/83897/unc-prof-not-dropping-academic-scandal

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/01/03/Cheaters

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/17/athlete-cheating-mars-unc-s-reputation.html

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/19794788/north-carolina-cheated-and-prospered-and-now-its-time-for-the-reckoning

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/11/17/2490476/insider-unc-tolerated-cheating.html

Hey TT, continue to live in denial.  I am SURE that you are NOT open-minded enough to read these links and be informed.  You seem like the typical Carolina fan that will always think the UNC can do NO wrong!!

Smitty77

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2014, 10:23:16 PM »

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His stock just sky rocketed!!  Despite getting double teamed and consistently fouled with virtually NO calls by McAdoo, he still drops 36 on UNC.

Man, some of the foul calls against him were utter bull crap.

UNC will not go far in the NCAA tourney with their FT shooting!!!

BTW, I told everyone that Syracuse was a paper tiger and I am sure that no one believed me.  Just saying:-)))

Smitty77

P.S. Sorry for the ramble.  I am peeved that my Wolfpack just got jobbed by the refs AT stinking HOME.  Boy, those refs must have been from around the corner in Chapel Hill!!!!!  I think they had UNC jerseys on underneath the strips.  How in the world does the leading scorer in the ACC who also leads the ACC in FG% NOT get the calls vs. McAdoo, the most overrated BUST in the country????????????????????????????????????????

TJ Warren is a stud and he should be lottery bound!  UNC will be just fine come tourney time, they have one of the best resumes in the country and haven beaten some of the best teams college basketball has to offer ( Duke, Kentucky, UL, MSU). 

McAdoo overrated?  I think you may be the only person in the country that had him rated?

I am sure the Wolfpack will do just fine in the NIT:)  Just be happy that Hairston got kicked off the team because if he was on this team, it would be a wrap and Roy's boys would be cutting down the nets again for the 3rd time in a decade...

I think that UNC should be glad that they did NOT get the death penalty in BOTH basketball and football for players taking courses that were NOT even courses!!!  That is a FACT!!!  And if you think that I am the ONLY one that had McAdoo rated highly, you are gravely mistaken.  Go back and look at where he was rated coming out of high school and get back to me with an apology please.

Smitty77

hahaha...McAdoo was highly rated out of high school, he is now a junior, the cat is out of the bag.  He was overrated, you are a little late to the game.  Death penalty for the hoops team? give me a break, you clearly have hatred/ jealously for UNC hoops, I can understand when your favorite team will always be a punching bag for a real program...

Here is one from today for your viewing pleasure TT, from Business Week:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-02-27/in-fake-classes-scandal-unc-fails-its-athletes-whistle-blower



Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2014, 07:04:57 AM »

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I like Warren a lot.  Efficient with his moves and has a diverse arsenal of shots in the paint.  It's the efficiency of his moves that I like best because I doubt he's going to be a team's no.1 offensive option and have the freedom to play with the ball a lot.  He's going to have to be quick and decisive with his moves and he is.  He's compares a little bit to DeShaun Thomas from Ohio State in the sense that both scored a ton of points in a major conference and yet weren't rated commensurately to their scoring average.  He's a better athlete though, so he has a better chance.


If only he was a better long-range shooter.  That's the one thing that's going to drop his stock.  He must have had Rashard Lewis clips playing on loop because unfathomably, he has as long a windup.  He brings the ball up from his knees.  He unloads the shot quickly but he doesn't so much as shoot from his legs as from his hips.  His has a very weird shot.

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2014, 08:19:34 AM »

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Mocks have him in mid to late teens.

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2014, 09:59:35 AM »

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I like Warren a lot.  Efficient with his moves and has a diverse arsenal of shots in the paint.  It's the efficiency of his moves that I like best because I doubt he's going to be a team's no.1 offensive option and have the freedom to play with the ball a lot.  He's going to have to be quick and decisive with his moves and he is.  He's compares a little bit to DeShaun Thomas from Ohio State in the sense that both scored a ton of points in a major conference and yet weren't rated commensurately to their scoring average.  He's a better athlete though, so he has a better chance.


If only he was a better long-range shooter.  That's the one thing that's going to drop his stock.  He must have had Rashard Lewis clips playing on loop because unfathomably, he has as long a windup.  He brings the ball up from his knees.  He unloads the shot quickly but he doesn't so much as shoot from his legs as from his hips.  His has a very weird shot.
I have seen Warren play a lot. He has deep shooting range, although an unorthodox form. He is a way better 3 point shooter than his numbers would show. He also will take the big shots, as I watched him play for an entire season on the number one HS team in the country against world class 19u players every night.

Because Brewster Academy was so deep, he actually came off the bench for most of his senior year, but always ended up with a 25 plus point night even though he did not start.

Brewster's previous 3 small forwards before TJ, were CJ Fair, Melvin Ejim and Will Barton. Every night Warren was going up against current or future NBA players in by far the best HS/prep conference in America.

TJ Warren plays against the best at Duke during the summers, as he is tight with Nolan Smith. Warren also comes from a great basketball background. His dad played at NC State and David West's brother was his AAU coach. He was Roy Williams number one recruit target two years ago. All have said the same thing about his shooting form "it works so we are not going to mess with it."

No player in college basketball has a higher % of touches per possession than Warren. Yet he is an extremely efficient scoring at nearly 24 a game, while averaging less than two dribbles per possession. In other words, the ball does not stick with TJ, unlike some other volume scorers.

He simply is underrated. I think you know his numbers and he easily could be ACC player of the year. He is also a good rebounder and defender. He has had seven 30 point games to date this year and no other ACC player has had more than two, yet he has not won a single ACC player of the week award? What would ESPN be saying if Jabari Parker was putting up these numbers?

Will be interesting to see how he does in the NBA? So many unknowns with all these guys but I would not bet against hard workers like Warren and Vonleh.

 
 

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Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2014, 10:46:54 AM »

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I like Warren a lot, too.  After Embiid, Parker, Wiggins, Randle, and Exum, I'd consider Warren in the next tier of players.  I'd take him over Gordon.  I'm not sold on Marcus Smart, either.

I could see Warren going top 10, and maybe to us.  Like many on here, I can see that "professional scorer" in him, and think it'll translate.  As to not shooting the NBA three, many people come into the league not very good at it and become much better at it with practice.  Not unusual at all.

Hoping we get a top 5 pick, but would consider Warren outside that.

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2014, 12:05:11 PM »

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I have him going 12 in how I think GMs will pick draft night .......but if I was choosing I might take him over several other guys in the top 10  depending on who is left after the first five picks go down.

Beginnings of a Rip Hamilton  maybe.


I still think the ultimate choice for DA will be take Randle ( what's left) from the cream of the draft ,   Or punt the pick backwards .

Need to really watch as much Randle as possible .

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2014, 11:49:12 PM »

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I have him going 12 in how I think GMs will pick draft night .......but if I was choosing I might take him over several other guys in the top 10  depending on who is left after the first five picks go down.

Beginnings of a Rip Hamilton  maybe.


I still think the ultimate choice for DA will be take Randle ( what's left) from the cream of the draft ,   Or punt the pick backwards .

Need to really watch as much Randle as possible .

Randle didn't have a great game today. Still pulled down 15 points. He is such a load to handle under the basket.

It's been a while i've seen a college player who has the combination of power, explosiveness, and better than avg quickness. He gets fouled frequently and sometimes hard and it doesn't even phase him one bit.   

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2014, 10:44:44 PM »

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TJ Warren is lighting up Pitt tonight. In addition to being a scoring machine he's rebounding, is an alert defender, and has made some nice passes to setup easy buckets for teammates. I've watched him a couple of times this season and would be very happy if he's the SF the C's get in the draft.

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« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2014, 11:02:14 PM »

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TJ Warren is lighting up Pitt tonight. In addition to being a scoring machine he's rebounding, is an alert defender, and has made some nice passes to setup easy buckets for teammates. I've watched him a couple of times this season and would be very happy if he's the SF the C's get in the draft.
Too bad he has such limited outside shooting range as someone was saying??? Yes, it seems like his outside range is currently limited to about 25 feet.
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Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2014, 11:52:04 PM »

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Sorry, I posted an old link and didn't know how to delete the post.  ???

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2014, 11:55:18 PM »

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This could end the sense of the thread for now. http://blogs.newsobserver.com/statenow/warren-puts-nba-on-hold-will-return-for-nc-state

Observe the date of the article...and the content. It's from last April.... ;D

TP anyway!

Re: TJ Warren will go in lottery NOW
« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2014, 09:48:17 AM »

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Just a mere 41 points on 16-22 shooting (3-5 3s) last night in a win over Pitt!

He can't shoot threes?  I admit it's not the prettiest shot...

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/C143AB2C3D1052480982651453440_1393905211605a026cf45b8.mp4.mp4?versionId=DQJsadu2tpmOSS5Z3Dvx6ppu9SaVsOBS