Simmon's Love and Melo to the Celtics Scenario

[ebrick0340]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

If Danny could pull this off, I would name my first son after him (lol.)

Would be great talent/age-wise but no chance Rondo re-signs in Cleveland. Also a bit skeptical that three score-first #1 options playing together would work better than keeping Rondo, whose game lends itself to playing with scorers much better than Irving's. Also, when Allen/Pierce/Garnett got together, they were 10+ year vets who were willing to sacrifice personal stats for a title. Might be much tougher to convince a 21 year-old Irving, a 25 year-old Love, and an Anthony who has averaged 20 shots per game during his career.

[CoachBo]

Why would we care about giving up Sullinger to get Love? Even the most wildly optimistic projection of Sullinger is to get to Love's level. You absolutely trade that potential for the real thing right now.

If Sullinger really is that good you're paying him in just 2 seasons anyway and you risk him not even being that good. Love is already at that level.

This is moaning about how Big Al was too much to give up for KG.

Right, its a no brainer that Sully would be in the deal for Love.  They wouldn't play well together anyways.  I think Simmons made a mistake to not include Sully as a part of his trade scenario, because I think he would almost have to be.  Sully would allow Minnesota to fill Love's spot immediately with a cheaper option who does some of the same things, just not as well.  It would be important for selling it to their fans.

The thing is, I think a deal of Sully/Green/Bogans and a first rounder or two would be a great deal for Minnesota, and they could even get better immediately because of it.  Green and Sully would just be a very good fit for what they need and have been missing, and then they get a pick or two to try to supplement and build for the future. 

I have even convinced myself that the C's could possibly make the deal without including their own lottery pick this year.

You're headed in the right direction. I want to keep this year's pick if it ends up top 5.

I move Rondo, Sullinger, Bogans and a future 1 to Minny for Love and Rubio.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ludkf9w

Then, you draft and you watch big contracts evaporate over the next two years.

Champions next year? No. More moves required.

But the foundation is there.

[Fafnir]

Rubio isn't good enough PG to keep Love in Minnesota, why would he be good enough to keep him in Boston?

[The One]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

Irving - Melo - Love is significantly worse than Rondo - Melo - Love.

I think it's an offensive three-headed monster that could not be stopped.  Has there ever been anything even comparable?

[Fafnir]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

Irving - Melo - Love is significantly worse than Rondo - Melo - Love.

I think it's an offensive three-headed monster that could not be stopped.  Has there ever been anything even comparable?

Gilbert-Caron-Antwan?

[CoachBo]

Rubio isn't good enough PG to keep Love in Minnesota, why would he be good enough to keep him in Boston?

Rubio has nothing whatsoever to do with Love wanting out of Minnesota.

[Fafnir]

Rubio isn't good enough PG to keep Love in Minnesota, why would he be good enough to keep him in Boston?

Rubio has nothing whatsoever to do with Love wanting out of Minnesota.

So you think his supporting cast has "nothing" to his desire to leave?

[LarBrd33]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

Irving - Melo - Love is significantly worse than Rondo - Melo - Love.

No it isn't.

[Monkhouse]

Rubio isn't good enough PG to keep Love in Minnesota, why would he be good enough to keep him in Boston?

Rubio has nothing whatsoever to do with Love wanting out of Minnesota.

Love likes Rubio, but Rubio isn't a scoring threat. Hes basically Rondo if Rondo couldn't drive, hit the mid range, or even score. Rubio is probably one of the worst point guards at scoring, which is probably why hes so reliant on his passing nowadays.

I wouldn't get rid of Rondo if we got Love/Melo. He would be able to get them the great touches and passes that the two of them would need.

But to get both would take a exorbitant amount, and I don't know if we'll be able to get enough pieces to bolster our bench, or Center/SG.

[gpap]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

Irving - Melo - Love is significantly worse than Rondo - Melo - Love.

How do you figure?

I am hearing some doozies today on this thread (lol!)

"Don't want Melo"..."Irving, Love and Melo would be worse than Rondo, Love and Melo."

Is there a full moon out today?

[Chris]

Rubio isn't good enough PG to keep Love in Minnesota, why would he be good enough to keep him in Boston?

Rubio has nothing whatsoever to do with Love wanting out of Minnesota.

So you think his supporting cast has "nothing" to his desire to leave?

Exactly.  Rubio isn't necessarily the problem.  But when Rubio is arguably your second best player, that is a huge problem.  He just is not very good.  It is one of the best kept secrets that he is one of the worst starting PGs in the league right now. 

[The One]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

No.  Not buying this.

Irving - Melo - Love are all #1 options on their teams and are top, TOP, players.

Only Gilbert was a #1 option and barely a top player.


Irving - Melo - Love is significantly worse than Rondo - Melo - Love.

I think it's an offensive three-headed monster that could not be stopped.  Has there ever been anything even comparable?

Gilbert-Caron-Antwan?

Not buying it...that threesome compared to Kyrie, Melo, and Love is like comparing Mothra to Godzilla.

See what I did there?   

[Gari]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

I see Rondo-Melo-Love a better match. I think it's gonna be hard to find a focus on offense if there are three scorers on the court. A distributor + 2 scorers are more likely to work out. I think melo and love will be more intrigued to play with rondo given his ability to get them open shots, rather than watching irving dominating the ball and chucking shots.

On another note, if Danny is able to pull off the trade for  love, I can't see how melo's gonna refuse to take a little pay-cut to join this great core. He's 30 and he doesn't have many years left his prime to pursue a championship. In the weak east, they can easily get to the top 3 seed and sneak to the nba finals.

[D.o.s.]

That threesome would be great.  Trading Rondo for Kyrie would be a dream come true.

Irving - Melo - Love...AMAZING!

Irving - Melo - Love is significantly worse than Rondo - Melo - Love.

I think it's an offensive three-headed monster that could not be stopped.  Has there ever been anything even comparable?

Gilbert-Caron-Antwan?

In the Princeton, no less.

[kozlodoev]

Let me say this again, in case you missed it last time. NO. MELO. Kthxbye.

Why not?

I mean I highly doubt Melo ever ends up in green, but why would you not want him on the Celtics?

He's an offensive all-star.

There is nothing about Carmelo Anthony's game, attitude or personality that I like or that will make me want him on my team.

I'd be inclined to agree with you on the attitude front, but I think it's fair to say that Paul Pierce had some similar baggage at one point.

I'm not saying that I know for sure that Melo could change if he were in a better environment, but I think it's possible.

Honestly the one thing I've seen about him that is most concerning is his late-game performance. I don't trust his judgment or killer instinct in those situations.

Beyond that concern his overall performance this year, in a very difficult environment, has been nothing short of spectacular.

I've never seen Pierce quit in a game, and I've never seen Pierce implode as spectacularly in crunch time as Carmelo often does. In fact, I have zero trust that giving the ball to Carmelo will win me a game that's on the line.

In my book, he remains a taller version of Stephon Marbury, and I invariably see him imploding in the same manner over time.