Simmon's Love and Melo to the Celtics Scenario

[quidinqui33]

Dang it...this got me all giddy.  Rondo, Love, and Melo. Whether something like this happens or not, I love that we've got options!

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-nba-bag-volume-1/

Here is the interesting excerpt.
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Like Love in Minnesota, Rondo can leave Boston in July 2015. And like Love, you can’t trade him unless it’s a team that (a) has assets to give back, and (b) could entice him into staying. Harder than you think. Houston and Dallas don’t have the assets. New York DEFINITELY doesn’t have the assets. A “Rondo to Sacramento for Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Derrick Williams’s expiring and the right for Boston to swap picks once in 2014, 2015 or 2016” deal makes sense on paper — and was seriously discussed last week, too — until everyone remembered that you’d have a better chance of seeing Rondo host an ABC late-night talk show of him playing Connect Four with celebrities called Connect Rondo than you would of seeing him spend the rest of his prime, five years, in Sacramento with Boogie Cousins.

So, what do you do? Well, aren’t you better off keeping Rondo — one of the league’s 15 to 20 best players when healthy — and finding him an All-Star teammate? Enter Kevin Love. They did it in 2007 with Paul Pierce and they could easily do it again: by paying a premium price for a second All-Star, suddenly it becomes MUCH easier to get that third All-Star. The Celtics couldn’t have convinced KG to play with just Pierce … but Ray Allen and Paul Pierce? The rest was history.

OK, so what happens if Boston throws its shamrock-shaped Asset Penis on the table and trumps everybody? Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love. And they could throw in Brandon Bass and Keith Bogans’s immediately waivable deal to make the contracts work. Oh, and if Minnesota were more interested in one or more of those future Brooklyn picks that Boston owns (unprotected in 2016 and 2018, pick swap in 2017), the Celts could discuss that, too. Remember, they have a WAR CHEST of picks: 10 in five years, including Brooklyn’s draft right as they’re entering the “Deron and Joe are old and Brook Lopez wears a suit to every game” phase of the Prokhorov era. You team up Love and Rondo and suddenly it’s 10 times easier to land that third All-Star. (You reading, Carmelo?) And yes, that deal could potentially net the Timberwolves three top-15 picks in a monster draft. Odds of it happening: 3-to-1.

The big picture: If Love is loyal to a fault, he’ll stay in Minnesota. If he wants to jump to the Lakers, he should wait a year, anyway. If he wants to play in a big market and contend for a title, Chicago makes sense … unless he thinks Derrick Rose will never be the same. But if this were a poker table, the Celtics would have the biggest stack of chips right now. If any current NBA player appreciates stuff like “Celtic Pride,” “That’s a great organization that looks out for its dudes” and “wearing the same jersey that Russell and Bird wore,” it’s Kevin Love.

My best guess: I think Love rides it out in Minnesota, then jumps to the Lakers in 2015. But I wouldn’t rule out the Celtics. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

[Quetzalcoatl]

He is such a homer; I wonder what his handle is on this site

[LarBrd33]

How would he presume we get MElo at that point?  Melo tells the Knicks he wants to play in Boston and they can either accept Jeff Green + leftover picks or he'll leave them with nothing and sign with another team?

Funny this scenario has us keeping Sully... basically the only player on this team other than Rondo worth any salt.

I still say it's more likely both players end up in LA.  Kobe's coming back.. they'll have something like 23 mil in cap space to sign Melo outright.  Then they can just offer Nash's expiring + their own pick (also projected top 5) + whatever else crap they can dig up and bring Love home to Lakerland.  It's inevitable anyways... Love will just sign with them in 2015.  They'll have the cap space to do it... THeoretically the Lakers will end up with Kobe, Melo (or LeBron) + A top 5 pick + Love... hello Laker dynasty.

We'll probably be stuck with like... a sub .500 team lead by Rondo, Sully and like.. Doug McDermott or something.

[Lucky17]

Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love.

Um, how is Boston getting Atlanta's pick this year?

[nostar]

Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love.

Um, how is Boston getting Atlanta's pick this year?

We get the less good ATL/BKN pick because of the KG/PP trade.

[cb8883]

Interesting stuff I'll admit. But adding lower tiered stars to a core including Rondo makes the Celtics a treadmill squad. All three are extremely overrated. Take the pick and enjoy whatever it brings. A quick fix won't work this time.

[Lucky17]

Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love.

Um, how is Boston getting Atlanta's pick this year?

We get the less good ATL/BKN pick because of the KG/PP trade.

So, Brooklyn is suddenly a lottery team?

[rondohondo]

Interesting stuff I'll admit. But adding lower tiered stars to a core including Rondo makes the Celtics a treadmill squad. All three are extremely overrated. Take the pick and enjoy whatever it brings. A quick fix won't work this time.

I want to keep the pick too(if it's top 4 or 5), but if you have a chance to land Love AND Melo, you absolutely do it . Two of the top 10 scorers in the league with Rondo? I would definitely be down for that .

Just have to add defense at the center and SG position( I assume we wouldn't be able to resign Bradley), and some bench player you are a contender , no doubt .

[bobbyv]

Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love.

Um, how is Boston getting Atlanta's pick this year?

We get the less good ATL/BKN pick because of the KG/PP trade.

So, Brooklyn is suddenly a lottery team?

No, we just get whoever has the worse (lower draft number) pick. If Brooklyn has the 16th pick and Atlanta 18th, we'd get the 18th pick.

And I don't think Simmons as far fetched as some may believe. If we could have gotten rid of one more contract (Bass or Green), we could have signed Melo to a max (although I'd give him 16-17 per year like Pierce instead of the 20mil+ he's eligible to get). Then attracting Love would be relatively easy.

Resign Bradley for no more than 6 mil, and finally get a defensive center (mandatory due to Melo's and Love's limitations) and that's easily a championship contender, high powered offense that would overcome their defensive limitations.

[D.o.s.]

'shamrock shaped asset penis' is pretty good.

I agree with the best guess.

[Neurotic Guy]

I like to read feasible scenarios for brigning two stars to Boston to join Rondo.  I don't really see the Carmelo to Boston rationale in this excerpt -- other to say he's more likely to come here with two stars aboard.  Is Simmon's thinking the C's would have the cap-space to sign him?  If so, I'd like to see numbers on that with Rondo, Love, Green and Wallace on the payroll.  Trading for Melo means unloading all of the potential Nets riches. 

Rondo, Love and Melo at 28, 26 and 30 respectively.  I think I like it. It's a core that can be built around and easily more of a potential contender than the dice roll of draft possibilities (unless we get top 3 this year). 

[Lucky17]

Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love.

Um, how is Boston getting Atlanta's pick this year?

We get the less good ATL/BKN pick because of the KG/PP trade.

So, Brooklyn is suddenly a lottery team?

No, we just get whoever has the worse (lower draft number) pick. If Brooklyn has the 16th pick and Atlanta 18th, we'd get the 18th pick.

Right. So, how in the heck is that pick going to be anywhere close to #13, as Simmons estimates? The only way that's possible is if both ATL and BRK finish in the lottery.

That pick is going to end up being closer to the 18-22 range, the way Brooklyn has played in the last few weeks.

[bobbyv]

Let’s say the Celtics lose the 2014 lottery and end up with a pick between no. 3 and no. 5. They could send that pick to Minny along with Atlanta’s first-rounder (probably ending up in the 13-to-18 range) and their 2015 Clippers pick for Love.

Um, how is Boston getting Atlanta's pick this year?

We get the less good ATL/BKN pick because of the KG/PP trade.

So, Brooklyn is suddenly a lottery team?

No, we just get whoever has the worse (lower draft number) pick. If Brooklyn has the 16th pick and Atlanta 18th, we'd get the 18th pick.

Right. So, how in the heck is that pick going to be anywhere close to #13, as Simmons estimates? The only way that's possible is if both ATL and BRK finish in the lottery.

That pick is going to end up being closer to the 18-22 range, the way Brooklyn has played in the last few weeks.

Good question, would have helped if I'd actually read the article lol.

[gpap]

If this happened, I'd be the happiest person in the world!!

[gpap]

Interesting stuff I'll admit. But adding lower tiered stars to a core including Rondo makes the Celtics a treadmill squad. All three are extremely overrated. Take the pick and enjoy whatever it brings. A quick fix won't work this time.

Treadmill squad??

I think a team of Rondo, Melo and Love inevitably wins an NBA title and is a top 3 team in the East for years to come.