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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2014, 04:39:42 PM »

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I am glad we are seeing Kelly get some minutes this year. The guy may never be an all star PF but he could easily be a rotation level big playing 20+ mpg.

His rebounding looks about average and he is a good shooter that will improve. His defense is suspect now, but I tell myself he is just a rookie. I think his best asset is his passing.

He is definitely capable of shooting 40% from the 3pt line. He will also be an 80%+ FT shooter IMO. It will take a couple years to develop just like the rest of his game.
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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2014, 05:08:53 PM »

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I'm kind of surprised that people get down on Olynyk so easily. Rookies in general, and certainly big men, typically struggle early in their NBA careers.

He's averaging 8 points and 5 boards. Has had games of 21 points, 15 & 11, 14 & 10.

Can handle the ball very well, great passer.

Let him add 15-20 pounds of strength and get this year and next under his belt and see what happens.

It wouldn't surprise me to see him average 12-15 points a night next season, along with 6-8 boards in about 30 minutes a night.

That would be a pretty good year #2 to me. 

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2014, 05:18:27 PM »

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I think KO shows his head is there and understands what he needs to do on offense and defense. He needs more repetitions and get physically fit to make the next step.

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2014, 05:20:37 PM »

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It wouldn't surprise me to see him average 12-15 points a night next season, along with 6-8 boards in about 30 minutes a night.
If he averages 30+ minutes a night, I'd be shocked if we win more than 38-40 games.
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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2014, 05:38:25 PM »

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Yep, hit the weights, come back about 10-15 pounds stronger. Leaner, stronger.

I don't know Kozlodoev, I think paired with the right defenders around him, we could be a very good team.

Similar to how you'd need to put good shooters on either side of Perkins. in the front court.

I think Olynyk will get better defensively and their are ways to hide his deficiencies on D - while benefiting from his offensive ability.

 

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2014, 05:43:35 PM »

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Yep, hit the weights, come back about 10-15 pounds stronger. Leaner, stronger.

I don't know Kozlodoev, I think paired with the right defenders around him, we could be a very good team.

Similar to how you'd need to put good shooters on either side of Perkins. in the front court.

I think Olynyk will get better defensively and their are ways to hide his deficiencies on D - while benefiting from his offensive ability.
It's been discussed ad nauseum, but I'll point out again that he's likely not going to get leaner than he already is. Stronger, maybe. Do expect additional body fat with that, though, as with all muscle-building regimens.

Also, unless we stumble into Embiid by sheer dumb luck, I don't see how you're  going to get a pairing next season that works. And you have to consider that Olynyk is not good enough offensively to compensate for pairing him with a complete offensive zero that can rebound and cover up for his defensive deficiencies. But yes, all this is not impossible -- I just don't see it happening next season.
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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2014, 05:55:58 PM »

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His confidence is shot somewhat.   Some games he does very poorly and it shows in his body language.   Other games he did well and carried himself well.  I hate guys like this because when things go well they do great but when the going gets tough not so much.   I like even keep guys who deliver consistently.   I do not care for Green because of this same reason.

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2014, 06:12:23 PM »

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His confidence is shot somewhat.   Some games he does very poorly and it shows in his body language.   Other games he did well and carried himself well.  I hate guys like this because when things go well they do great but when the going gets tough not so much.   I like even keep guys who deliver consistently.   I do not care for Green because of this same reason.

The guy is a rookie. Geez.

In his jr yr in college he was mr consistentcy. I expect the same next season.

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2014, 06:13:24 PM »

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It wouldn't surprise me to see him average 12-15 points a night next season, along with 6-8 boards in about 30 minutes a night.
If he averages 30+ minutes a night, I'd be shocked if we win more than 38-40 games.

More like 28-30
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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2014, 06:27:22 PM »

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I'm interested to see how he develops.  As I've said before, when I first started watching him I thought he was a stiff that might not even make it in the nba.  So I've been pleasantly surprised as he's gotten better and more consistent.  If he can get his midrange game going, he actually could end up pretty decent.  If nothing else, a rotation guy that can score off the bench.  Those guys don't grow on trees.

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2014, 06:54:15 PM »

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As a rule, it's understood that a player's career arc is determined based on his output during his rookie season. There is no room for improvement of any kind. This theory was proved most clearly by Perkins & Bradley.   

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2014, 07:11:11 PM »

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I'm willing to give him a little time to develop before I determine his ceiling offensively or defensively and its impact on the team - which will likely take more than just next season - but that applies for the overall improvement of the team anyway, so I'm fine with watching the development.

I disagree that gaining strength means adding body fat. My experience says you can gain considerable strength by getting leaner. Kevin love is an example. So is Perkins. 

Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2014, 07:15:06 PM »

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His confidence is shot somewhat.   Some games he does very poorly and it shows in his body language.   Other games he did well and carried himself well.  I hate guys like this because when things go well they do great but when the going gets tough not so much.   I like even keep guys who deliver consistently.   I do not care for Green because of this same reason.

The guy is a rookie. Geez.

In his jr yr in college he was mr consistentcy. I expect the same next season.

Aren't you part of the problem with this though?  How can you say "but he's only a rookie" when these were your thoughts before the season started:

16 pts, 7 reb, 2 assist, 1 block and 1 stl avg
Shooting over 50 fg and close to 80 ft percentages

First all rookie team and roy winner

I admit he's only a rookie, but how can you get mad at people for having high expectations when you were one of the main people pumping him up?

Look back at the other posts in the Kelly Olynyk 2013-2014 predictions thread, or even the who will be the #2 scoring option thread where Olynyk finished 2nd behind Rondo. It's pretty easy to see why some people's expectations of Kelly Olynyk were so high, they kept hearing about how well his unique skill set would immediately translate to the NBA, plus he had such a great summer league that people extrapolated to think he would be the next Dirk Nowitzki.
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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2014, 08:41:45 PM »

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Looking through that thread, it looks like fantankerous almost nailed it:
8ppg/4.5rpg/2apg/.44fg/.36 3%

Actual splits: 7.1ppg/4.8rpg/1.7apg/.42%fg/.29 3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/olynyke01.html#per_game::none
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Re: What if KO was a 40% 3PFG shooter?
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2014, 09:10:15 PM »

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Look back at the other posts in the Kelly Olynyk 2013-2014 predictions thread, or even the who will be the #2 scoring option thread where Olynyk finished 2nd behind Rondo.

Those threads are comedy gold.  We should go back to old prediction threads more.  Might keep us humbler.  Except for fantankerous I guess  :)

...to answer the OP's question, if KO was a 40% 3 pt shooter he'd be a much better player.  I'd settle for 35 though.