Rondo skips trip to sacramento

[Eja117]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

this is not about college or hs or the pros. Its what about the coach wants.  If one coach is ok you come to practice 10 minutes late bc you had to grab coffee etc etc. then your lucky. If you got a coach that can't tolerate you coming in even one minute late, you got to respect his ways

Popovich is a guy that has a tight control of his ship. We all seen him yell at Duncan , Parker he doesn't give a [dang] who you are. But those guys don't go crying and threat to leave via FA as soon the opportunity comes. They respect him . If Rondo did what he did under pops, you think this would be all ok?

If Duncan wasn't going to play and took the night off to go be with his family I seriously doubt Pops would even say anything about that. Remember when he left them all at home when they were totally healthy and the league fined him? A guy who's willing to be fined to give his guy the night off probably won't fuss if he just takes it on a night he had off anyway.

Also comparing Pops to Brad seems a little off to me.

[D.o.s.]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

this is not about college or hs or the pros. Its what about the coach wants.  If one coach is ok you come to practice 10 minutes late bc you had to grab coffee etc etc. then your lucky. If you got a coach that can't tolerate you coming in even one minute late, you got to respect his ways

Popovich is a guy that has a tight control of his ship. We all seen him yell at Duncan , Parker he doesn't give a [dang] who you are. But those guys don't go crying and threat to leave via FA as soon the opportunity comes. They respect him . If Rondo did what he did under pops, you think this would be all ok?

If Duncan wasn't going to play and took the night off to go be with his family I seriously doubt Pops would even say anything about that. Remember when he left them all at home when they were totally healthy and the league fined him? A guy who's willing to be fined to give his guy the night off probably won't fuss if he just takes it on a night he had off anyway.

Also comparing Pops to Brad seems a little off to me.

Well they are both head coaches in the NBA. So, clearly, it's foolproof.

[BballTim]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

[chambers]

It's a sticky situation.
If he wasn't the captain it wouldn't be as much of a big deal. But he is the captain. Even if he is missing the game, he gets paid to be a Celtic and his presence there with the team on road trips is important for the growth of this team.

I'm okay with him doing it once and realizing it was probably a mistake because he is the captain of the Boston Celtics and he should still travel with them and sit on the bench with them.

[Eddie20]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

The point is that is that Ainge met with the guy at fault. The guy who spoke to the coach before HE decided to skip a trip. As for the quote, it's pretty obvious what he is saying. And pretty similar to the Stevens quote about him.

“Leaders are human. And human beings are fallible,” Stevens said. “Not saying he is or isn’t in this circumstance, but I am saying that the best leaders that I’ve ever been around, played for or been on a team that I’ve been on or that I’ve worked for, when they have made mistakes, it’s how they responded that made them so special."

[BballTim]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

The point is that is that Ainge met with the guy at fault. The guy who spoke to the coach before HE decided to skip a trip. As for the quote, it's pretty obvious what he is saying.

  It is pretty obvious what he's saying. "I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance". It's also pretty obvious that you're completely ignoring this and deciding he means the opposite.

[D.o.s.]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

The point is that is that Ainge met with the guy at fault. The guy who spoke to the coach before HE decided to skip a trip. As for the quote, it's pretty obvious what he is saying.

  It is pretty obvious what he's saying. "I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance". It's also pretty obvious that you're completely ignoring this and deciding he means the opposite.

That reads  awfully close to a "it's not you, it's me" type disclaimer in context of the rest of the quote.

[BballTim]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

The point is that is that Ainge met with the guy at fault. The guy who spoke to the coach before HE decided to skip a trip. As for the quote, it's pretty obvious what he is saying.

  It is pretty obvious what he's saying. "I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance". It's also pretty obvious that you're completely ignoring this and deciding he means the opposite.

That reads  awfully close to a "it's not you, it's me" type disclaimer in context of the rest of the quote.

  You can read anything you want into what was said. How about "leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."? There are 3 leaders involved in the situation, right? Rondo, Stevens and Ainge. If all of them "learned something" from the incident, it's fairly likely that Rondo wasn't the only one who might have made a mistake.

[D.o.s.]

Agreed. If anything, I think that it's Stevens who needs to have learned something from this. Namely that when you're dealing with grown men who are professionals, you don't need them to request permission like you do with teenagers in college athletics.

My 2cents.

[Eddie20]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

The point is that is that Ainge met with the guy at fault. The guy who spoke to the coach before HE decided to skip a trip. As for the quote, it's pretty obvious what he is saying.

  It is pretty obvious what he's saying. "I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance". It's also pretty obvious that you're completely ignoring this and deciding he means the opposite.

That reads  awfully close to a "it's not you, it's me" type disclaimer in context of the rest of the quote.

  You can read anything you want into what was said. How about "leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."? There are 3 leaders involved in the situation, right? Rondo, Stevens and Ainge. If all of them "learned something" from the incident, it's fairly likely that Rondo wasn't the only one who might have made a mistake.

If you want to spin it that way, ok. I obviously expect nothing else from you on all things Rondo.

If it were a death in the family or the birth of a child I would be much more sympathetic. However, we are talking about a birthday party. Not even for a child, but for himself. Aside from the self righteous nature of the act, is this the type of message a captain should be sending his teammates? Should Olynyk and Anthony be expected to practice on Boxing Day? Where does it end? If this were anybody else on the team they'd be hammered on here, but when it comes to Rondo objectivity seems to go by the wayside from a certain few.

[D.o.s.]

If you want to spin it that way, ok. I obviously expect nothing else from you on all things Rondo.

If it were a death in the family or the birth of a child I would be much more sympathetic. However, we are talking about a birthday party. Not even for a child, but for himself. Aside from the self righteous nature of the act, is this the type of message a captain should be sending his teammates? Should Olynyk and Anthony be expected to practice on Boxing Day? Where does it end? If this were anybody else on the team they'd be hammered on here, but when it comes to Rondo objectivity seems to go by the wayside from a certain few.

I'm going to ask you the same question I asked someone else earlier - do you/have you ever try/tried to get the day off of work for your birthday?

[Tr1boy]

If you want to spin it that way, ok. I obviously expect nothing else from you on all things Rondo.

If it were a death in the family or the birth of a child I would be much more sympathetic. However, we are talking about a birthday party. Not even for a child, but for himself. Aside from the self righteous nature of the act, is this the type of message a captain should be sending his teammates? Should Olynyk and Anthony be expected to practice on Boxing Day? Where does it end? If this were anybody else on the team they'd be hammered on here, but when it comes to Rondo objectivity seems to go by the wayside from a certain few.

I'm going to ask you the same question I asked someone else earlier - do you/have you ever try/tried to get the day off of work for your birthday?

Yes but if you cant get it off are you going to miss work? Stevens didnt agree or accept with what rondo did. He is force to agree or let the matter slide

Like eddie20 said anyone else they would get burnt.

[Tr1boy]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/02/28/rajon-rondo-wrong-this-time/1ZajtNlGl8fkAoaxTq2i4O/story.html

I agree with the writer

[D.o.s.]

See, that Globe journalist is doing is a lazy, knee-jerk #HotSportsTake.


Look at the leap Gasper makes here:

Some Celtics supporters would like to sweep this incident under the parquet, pointing out that Rondo didn’t get arrested, wave a gun at anyone, or strike his spouse. He went to a birthday party.

This is the nadir we’ve now reached in society? We’re supposed to give an athlete credit for not behaving like a criminal or miscreant? Rondo-philes, you’re working too hard to deploy the intellectual countermeasures here.

This is about more than taking a birthday break. It’s about whether Rondo is the type of personality you can build a team around. It’s about whether he is maturing or just getting older.

No. It's not. The only reason it would be about it being "more than taking a birthday break" is because Gasper's article doesn't get the soapbox he thinks it deserves otherwise. The false corollary he brings up is astounding. We're not supposed to applaud Rondo because he didn't get arrested or whatever, we're not giving it much mind because it's not a big deal.



Rondo skipped a game he wasn't going to play in, possibly without getting permission from his coach.
*makes vigorous self-simulation gesture*
So what?

[BballTim]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

  I would assume he talked to both Stevens and Rondo, wouldn't you? But where did I say that Stevens would need to meet with Danny? And how [dang]ing do you think a quote where Danny declined to say that Rondo made a mistake or that he was punished in any way is?

The point is that is that Ainge met with the guy at fault. The guy who spoke to the coach before HE decided to skip a trip. As for the quote, it's pretty obvious what he is saying.

  It is pretty obvious what he's saying. "I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance". It's also pretty obvious that you're completely ignoring this and deciding he means the opposite.

That reads  awfully close to a "it's not you, it's me" type disclaimer in context of the rest of the quote.

  You can read anything you want into what was said. How about "leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."? There are 3 leaders involved in the situation, right? Rondo, Stevens and Ainge. If all of them "learned something" from the incident, it's fairly likely that Rondo wasn't the only one who might have made a mistake.

If you want to spin it that way, ok. I obviously expect nothing else from you on all things Rondo.

  If you think anything about your posts concerning Rondo sound any more unbiased or objective than you think my posts are you're sadly mistaken.

If it were a death in the family or the birth of a child I would be much more sympathetic. However, we are talking about a birthday party. Not even for a child, but for himself. Aside from the self righteous nature of the act, is this the type of message a captain should be sending his teammates? Should Olynyk and Anthony be expected to practice on Boxing Day? Where does it end? If this were anybody else on the team they'd be hammered on here, but when it comes to Rondo objectivity seems to go by the wayside from a certain few.

  So you hammered KG any time he wasn't with the team when he was injured or wasn't on the bench when he wasn't playing? Or (more likely) you barely even noticed. Did PP always travel with the team when he wasn't playing, or don't you know? Have you been checking to make sure that all of the injured players on the roster attend every game? How many games has Bradley missed where he wasn't on the bench? Vitor? Sully? Be specific, and let me know which particular games they missed.

  Bet you can't, because if any player besides Rondo is missing from the bench they don't get skewered, it generally goes unnoticed. If you don't think that's true, point me to the threads we see every time a player who isn't playing isn't on the bench. Otherwise you're right that it's a case of people losing their objectivity when it comes to Rondo, just not the people you think.