Rondo skips trip to sacramento

[BballTim]

I'm just curious.....what kind of a coach says to his best player up for free agency in a year "Hey. I know your whole family is here and it's your birthday and you want to be with them and you're not even supposed to play the Kings tomorrow.....but man it is just really really really important that you be there to watch a completely meaningless game"?

Who does or says that? 

I also don't follow this line of thinking that Rondo has butted heads with every coach he ever had. I mean how come nobody ever says coaches have butted heads everywhere they've gone?  You mean they kept all their players happy all the time?

I bet if you asked Doc or Brad.....hey. We could trade Rondo for ...idk...Mike Conley or Tony Parker straight up they'd yell "Noooooooooo! Are you out of your mind?!"

40 pgs are better?  Shoulda gone with 15. Then we might have actually thought a real live scout said that.

your wrong imo. He is the captain.

What's next, Jeff Green can miss a game when his birthday comes? Then Pressey?

Even though Pressey is not at the level Rondo is, if you as a coach tell him no you can't, then what?  It's like a **** boss giving favoritism to that one hot chick on your team, and blasting others when they do something minor

Stevens is a fair guy. Rookie coach or not, he knows what kind of system and rules he wants in place so that the ship can navigate properly.

  Have you been following the story at all? Rondo didn't miss the game because it was his birthday. They told him not to play because it was the second half of a back to back.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Asked before the Celtics played Atlanta if he thought Rondo should have stayed with the team, Stevens said: "I think the biggest thing right now is for me to move forward, for us to move forward. Obviously, it's something that is a great question to ask, something that I certainly have spent a lot of time thinking about. But at the end of the day, I've passed that point."

Stevens certainly did not accuse the media of blowing the story out of proportion. Stevens said he talked to Rondo before the Sacramento game and again on Monday when the Celtics lost to Utah, but he wouldn't say what they talked about.

"All of that we're handling internally," Stevens said, "but we've sat down and talked. We did that Monday. In my mind, I'm moving forward. Then when Danny gets back to town, they can meet and we'll go from there."

"It wasn't a problem for me," Gerald Wallace said. "He doesn't plan back-to-backs anyway. So I don't see a big deal in it."

Rondo's absence in Sacramento was the talk of sports radio. Asked what he thought of the commotion he caused in the media, Rondo said, "I haven't really read much about it. I heard a lot of comments. Nobody knows the story so you guys keep making up every story you guys possibly can."

Asked what the story was, Rondo replied, "It's my business, it's not yours.

Stevens definitely is not happy about this.  Rondo should just man up and admit what he did was wrong.

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I'm speechless. Wallace sounds like the only guy with sense.

Stevens has spent a lot of time thinking about this?

This?

Good job at handling that internally after not handling it internally and just stating your view publicly...again ....adding that there was  long time spent thinking about a ridiculous topic.....very internal..and Danny's gonna talk to him. Thanks for that.

Almost stealth....



Pic reapplied because first coating did not work.

*Feels scared about Brad handling more stuff internally*

[Eja117]

I'm just curious.....what kind of a coach says to his best player up for free agency in a year "Hey. I know your whole family is here and it's your birthday and you want to be with them and you're not even supposed to play the Kings tomorrow.....but man it is just really really really important that you be there to watch a completely meaningless game"?

Who does or says that? 

I also don't follow this line of thinking that Rondo has butted heads with every coach he ever had. I mean how come nobody ever says coaches have butted heads everywhere they've gone?  You mean they kept all their players happy all the time?

I bet if you asked Doc or Brad.....hey. We could trade Rondo for ...idk...Mike Conley or Tony Parker straight up they'd yell "Noooooooooo! Are you out of your mind?!"

40 pgs are better?  Shoulda gone with 15. Then we might have actually thought a real live scout said that.

your wrong imo. He is the captain.

What's next, Jeff Green can miss a game when his birthday comes? Then Pressey?

Even though Pressey is not at the level Rondo is, if you as a coach tell him no you can't, then what?  It's like a **** boss giving favoritism to that one hot chick on your team, and blasting others when they do something minor

Stevens is a fair guy. Rookie coach or not, he knows what kind of system and rules he wants in place so that the ship can navigate properly.

  Have you been following the story at all? Rondo didn't miss the game because it was his birthday. They told him not to play because it was the second half of a back to back.

Exactly. He already had the day off. They didn't want him to come into work. They wanted him to come in to watch other people work.

[Eja117]

I'm just curious.....what kind of a coach says to his best player up for free agency in a year "Hey. I know your whole family is here and it's your birthday and you want to be with them and you're not even supposed to play the Kings tomorrow.....but man it is just really really really important that you be there to watch a completely meaningless game"?

Who does or says that? 

I also don't follow this line of thinking that Rondo has butted heads with every coach he ever had. I mean how come nobody ever says coaches have butted heads everywhere they've gone?  You mean they kept all their players happy all the time?

I bet if you asked Doc or Brad.....hey. We could trade Rondo for ...idk...Mike Conley or Tony Parker straight up they'd yell "Noooooooooo! Are you out of your mind?!"

40 pgs are better?  Shoulda gone with 15. Then we might have actually thought a real live scout said that.

your wrong imo. He is the captain.

What's next, Jeff Green can miss a game when his birthday comes? Then Pressey?

Even though Pressey is not at the level Rondo is, if you as a coach tell him no you can't, then what?  It's like a **** boss giving favoritism to that one hot chick on your team, and blasting others when they do something minor

Stevens is a fair guy. Rookie coach or not, he knows what kind of system and rules he wants in place so that the ship can navigate properly.

Treating everyone fairly doesn't mean treating everyone the same.  I would absolutely say if any guys are not going to be playing and they have a birthday then they can totally have the day off from watching a game in Sacramento. Except Sully. He totally blew the whole trust thing.

[LilRip]

I'm just curious.....what kind of a coach says to his best player up for free agency in a year "Hey. I know your whole family is here and it's your birthday and you want to be with them and you're not even supposed to play the Kings tomorrow.....but man it is just really really really important that you be there to watch a completely meaningless game"?

Who does or says that? 

I also don't follow this line of thinking that Rondo has butted heads with every coach he ever had. I mean how come nobody ever says coaches have butted heads everywhere they've gone?  You mean they kept all their players happy all the time?

I bet if you asked Doc or Brad.....hey. We could trade Rondo for ...idk...Mike Conley or Tony Parker straight up they'd yell "Noooooooooo! Are you out of your mind?!"

40 pgs are better?  Shoulda gone with 15. Then we might have actually thought a real live scout said that.

your wrong imo. He is the captain.

What's next, Jeff Green can miss a game when his birthday comes? Then Pressey?

Even though Pressey is not at the level Rondo is, if you as a coach tell him no you can't, then what?  It's like a **** boss giving favoritism to that one hot chick on your team, and blasting others when they do something minor

Stevens is a fair guy. Rookie coach or not, he knows what kind of system and rules he wants in place so that the ship can navigate properly.

  Have you been following the story at all? Rondo didn't miss the game because it was his birthday. They told him not to play because it was the second half of a back to back.

Exactly. He already had the day off. They didn't want him to come into work. They wanted him to come in to watch other people work.

it's more about team camaraderie more than anything. even if guys don't play, they still usually travel with the team (unless they're getting treatment or something) and sit on the bench in a suit.

anyway, i don't care for this issue. for one, it seems petty (although i could be wrong and the issue might actually bigger than is being let on), and the other is that stories like this likely end up with having so much spin on it, for better or worse, that the final story that surfaces ends up being so garbled and far from the actual truth.

if Rondo leaves for FA (or is traded) and whispers of how he was difficult to deal with or that he wasn't always there for the team, etc. etc., then it's possible that this story gains some weight as to one of those examples/incidents. Until then though, i don't think there's much to see here.

[CelticG1]

I'm just curious.....what kind of a coach says to his best player up for free agency in a year "Hey. I know your whole family is here and it's your birthday and you want to be with them and you're not even supposed to play the Kings tomorrow.....but man it is just really really really important that you be there to watch a completely meaningless game"?

Who does or says that? 

I also don't follow this line of thinking that Rondo has butted heads with every coach he ever had. I mean how come nobody ever says coaches have butted heads everywhere they've gone?  You mean they kept all their players happy all the time?

I bet if you asked Doc or Brad.....hey. We could trade Rondo for ...idk...Mike Conley or Tony Parker straight up they'd yell "Noooooooooo! Are you out of your mind?!"

40 pgs are better?  Shoulda gone with 15. Then we might have actually thought a real live scout said that.

your wrong imo. He is the captain.

What's next, Jeff Green can miss a game when his birthday comes? Then Pressey?

Even though Pressey is not at the level Rondo is, if you as a coach tell him no you can't, then what?  It's like a **** boss giving favoritism to that one hot chick on your team, and blasting others when they do something minor

Stevens is a fair guy. Rookie coach or not, he knows what kind of system and rules he wants in place so that the ship can navigate properly.

Treating everyone fairly doesn't mean treating everyone the same.  I would absolutely say if any guys are not going to be playing and they have a birthday then they can totally have the day off from watching a game in Sacramento. Except Sully. He totally blew the whole trust thing.

Thats why bottom line during this pretty terrible season they can only "scold" rondo so much on this. What actually happened is such a small thing

Imagine them going to Rondo and saying "you screwed up big time! You dont know how bad you messed up here!"

I mean i underatand disagreeing with Rondo obviously but to  act like this is going to hurt his stock, relationship with players, management, sbows that hes not captain material? Yeah its pretty far fetched.

About as far fetched as people being upset with Paul Pierce playing poker at the casino the night before a playoff game

[BballTim]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

[Celtics4ever]

Explain to him what is expected of a Captain.   To his credit he came to a lot of games when he was injured folks.   I know other guys that would not have done it.

[bballdog384]

Why is this still one of the latest forum topics??

Lets just all fogettabouttit

[Tr1boy]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

this is not about college or hs or the pros. Its what about the coach wants.  If one coach is ok you come to practice 10 minutes late bc you had to grab coffee etc etc. then your lucky. If you got a coach that can't tolerate you coming in even one minute late, you got to respect his ways

Popovich is a guy that has a tight control of his ship. We all seen him yell at Duncan , Parker he doesn't give a [dang] who you are. But those guys don't go crying and threat to leave via FA as soon the opportunity comes. They respect him . If Rondo did what he did under pops, you think this would be all ok?

[hpantazo]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

this is not about college or hs or the pros. Its what about the coach wants.  If one coach is ok you come to practice 10 minutes late bc you had to grab coffee etc etc. then your lucky. If you got a coach that can't tolerate you coming in even one minute late, you got to respect his ways

Popovich is a guy that has a tight control of his ship. We all seen him yell at Duncan , Parker he doesn't give a [dang] who you are. But those guys don't go crying and threat to leave via FA as soon the opportunity comes. They respect him . If Rondo did what he did under pops, you think this would be all ok?

I think you have a naive perception of how the NBA works.

[Eddie20]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

[D.o.s.]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

this is not about college or hs or the pros. Its what about the coach wants.  If one coach is ok you come to practice 10 minutes late bc you had to grab coffee etc etc. then your lucky. If you got a coach that can't tolerate you coming in even one minute late, you got to respect his ways

Popovich is a guy that has a tight control of his ship. We all seen him yell at Duncan , Parker he doesn't give a [dang] who you are. But those guys don't go crying and threat to leave via FA as soon the opportunity comes. They respect him . If Rondo did what he did under pops, you think this would be all ok?

Probably.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8695865/nba-fines-san-antonio-spurs-250000-sitting-players

[hpantazo]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

So who did Ainge have a meeting with? Rondo about missing the trip or Stevens about being a college coach and not knowing how to handle professionals?

"Rondo and I had a very good conversation yesterday," Ainge told CSNNE.com in a phone interview. "I'm satisfied with where things are and as far as I'm concerned, this whole thing is in the past and we're moving forward."

"First of all, leaders make mistakes," said Ainge who declined to say whether Rondo was fined. "And I'm not saying Rondo made a mistake in this particular instance, but leaders in general do make mistakes. All of us learned something from this, and as I said earlier, we're moving on."

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translation:

The three of us know we are tanking, we just had to work out how to put forth the public perception that we are trying to win. Of course we don't need Rondo in Sactown to sit and watch us lose, but we had to make it look like the coach and the captain care. Now we are all on the same page on how to do this for the rest of the season.

[hpantazo]

C'mon..Brad changed his game? They new guy? Who stated his mindset? Not the GM trying to throw a bone just before a team friendly re-sign offer?

I don't see why it's so far-fetched for a rookie NBA coach to change his mind about something that's he's never been a part of before. This is a guy bringing his college ball mentality to the pros, don't forget.

  I agree. He's probably figuring out that he's not coaching college kids and adjusting to his new situation. I think that's an issue for many college coaches who move into the pros, Pitino included.

this is not about college or hs or the pros. Its what about the coach wants.  If one coach is ok you come to practice 10 minutes late bc you had to grab coffee etc etc. then your lucky. If you got a coach that can't tolerate you coming in even one minute late, you got to respect his ways

Popovich is a guy that has a tight control of his ship. We all seen him yell at Duncan , Parker he doesn't give a [dang] who you are. But those guys don't go crying and threat to leave via FA as soon the opportunity comes. They respect him . If Rondo did what he did under pops, you think this would be all ok?

Probably.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8695865/nba-fines-san-antonio-spurs-250000-sitting-players

Yep, it's about public image for the team and the NBA in general, wether it's sitting players for tanking or for resting for the playoffs, fans pay to see stars when they go to games, and if Rondo or Duncan were given permission to take a night off, it's bad for ticket sales. That's basically the bottom line. They can have the night off, but the official reason has to be something else like an injury or sickness.