Welcome to the New CBA

[PhoSita]

The trade deadline under the new CBA just isn't going to be that exciting.  There are fewer bad contracts, and fewer teams willing to go for broke by acquiring big contracts.  The luxury tax penalties are too great.

Hand in hand with that is the following bit of new wisdom:

Don't sign players to deals worth more than the MLE unless you expect to keep them until the end of their deal.

If you don't view Brandon Bass, Jeff Green, or (this summer) Avery Bradley as a long term piece, don't sign them. 

Unless you include them in a deal with a major piece like Rondo, you're not going to be able to trade them.  Not even in a salary dump for a 2nd round pick.

1st round picks are held more tightly than ever by teams, and the guys that get moved are on very small contracts, mid-sized expiring deals, and, occasionally (but usually during the summer) major pieces. 

Having cap flexibility means shrugging off your bad contracts by giving up significant assets, or actually having discipline in the first place to not hand out deals to players who aren't going to put you over the top.

[wdleehi]

I have been thinking the MLE has been to much for to many players the way it has been set up.


Pay big money to the top stars, and keep the rest of the contracts small. 

[PhoSita]

If it wasn't clear enough in the initial post, I don't think the Celtics should re-sign Avery Bradley this summer unless he accepts less than $5 million a year.  He's a nice enough player, but he's not a core guy. 

[BleedGreen1989]

Last year the biggest name traded was JJ Redick at the deadline.

The league is just different now, as much as people want to pout and stomp their feet that Bass, Green, ect are still on the roster.

[oldtype]

If it wasn't clear enough in the initial post, I don't think the Celtics should re-sign Avery Bradley this summer unless he accepts less than $5 million a year.  He's a nice enough player, but he's not a core guy.

I'm leaning towards agreeing. The new CBA has made it so that any non-allstar on a significant multiyear deal has nearly 0 trade value. While Bradley's a good player, he should be replaceable at some point if we need to.

[hwangjini_1]

The trade deadline under the new CBA just isn't going to be that exciting.  There are fewer bad contracts, and fewer teams willing to go for broke by acquiring big contracts.  The luxury tax penalties are too great.

Hand in hand with that is the following bit of new wisdom:

Don't sign players to deals worth more than the MLE unless you expect to keep them until the end of their deal.

If you don't view Brandon Bass, Jeff Green, or (this summer) Avery Bradley as a long term piece, don't sign them. 

Unless you include them in a deal with a major piece like Rondo, you're not going to be able to trade them.  Not even in a salary dump for a 2nd round pick.

1st round picks are held more tightly than ever by teams, and the guys that get moved are on very small contracts, mid-sized expiring deals, and, occasionally (but usually during the summer) major pieces. 

Having cap flexibility means shrugging off your bad contracts by giving up significant assets, or actually having discipline in the first place to not hand out deals to players who aren't going to put you over the top.

great points pho, as usual. tp.

i think the days of big time deals at the trade deadline may be dead and buried by the new cba.

instead, teams now are looking to avoid the repeater-tax and are fixated upon stockpiling as many picks as they can. should that be the case, ainge may have played his hand very well so far this season.

[BleedGreen1989]

If it wasn't clear enough in the initial post, I don't think the Celtics should re-sign Avery Bradley this summer unless he accepts less than $5 million a year.  He's a nice enough player, but he's not a core guy.

I'm leaning towards agreeing. The new CBA has made it so that any non-allstar on a significant multiyear deal has nearly 0 trade value. While Bradley's a good player, he should be replaceable at some point if we need to.

I entirely agree.

I wouldn't pay AB more than MLE money.

[heyvik]

Last year the biggest name traded was JJ Redick at the deadline.

The league is just different now, as much as people want to pout and stomp their feet that Bass, Green, ect are still on the roster.

you forgot Bogans

[LooseCannon]

Maybe the fallout from the Perk trade made a lot of playoff teams less willing to make risky mid-season trades and more inclined to keep their deals to tinkering around the edges.

[pearljammer10]

If it wasn't clear enough in the initial post, I don't think the Celtics should re-sign Avery Bradley this summer unless he accepts less than $5 million a year.  He's a nice enough player, but he's not a core guy.

I'm leaning towards agreeing. The new CBA has made it so that any non-allstar on a significant multiyear deal has nearly 0 trade value. While Bradley's a good player, he should be replaceable at some point if we need to.

I entirely agree.

I wouldn't pay AB more than MLE money.

Absolutely not.

[Shamrocker]

If it wasn't clear enough in the initial post, I don't think the Celtics should re-sign Avery Bradley this summer unless he accepts less than $5 million a year.  He's a nice enough player, but he's not a core guy.

I'm leaning towards agreeing. The new CBA has made it so that any non-allstar on a significant multiyear deal has nearly 0 trade value. While Bradley's a good player, he should be replaceable at some point if we need to.

I entirely agree.

I wouldn't pay AB more than MLE money.

Absolutely not.

AB should have signed for $6 million p/yr when he had the chance. That door is closed now, one would think.

[Mr October]

Yup. For a while now i am against most contracts between the MLE and the max.

I think the OP has a good rule. Just to repeat:

Don't sign players to deals worth more than the MLE unless you expect to keep them until the end of their deal.

The exception is when you can get a star to sign under the max, like a curry or rondo.

[The One]

Good points.  Kind of depressing though...means much less activity at the deadline now.

Will the summer activity be ramped up though?

[SHAQATTACK]

If it wasn't clear enough in the initial post, I don't think the Celtics should re-sign Avery Bradley this summer unless he accepts less than $5 million a year.  He's a nice enough player, but he's not a core guy.

I agree with this post.........unless a player is a total keeper.......elite ......"I think you let other people dump huge contracts on average players.

I d rather go after Hayward .....just let AB .....expire ...

At least Bass and Green are not  old like Kobe .....or as expensive

Lots of role players and average joes to buy .".

 save your assets to get elite players t hat fit your team mold


Value of none top 20 players has fell off the cliff,    New better players in the draft have GM s looking at the new models

[obnoxiousmime]

This is why I still think Green is overpaid. Sure he's not a disaster contract because he stays healthy and still produces, but nobody is taking on your long term deals these days. Flexibility is the name of the game.

It would have been different if he had become more of a go-to guy that teams viewed as a potential third piece to push them over the top, but he hasn't shown that kind of improvement in his game and now he probably never will.

Also, as far as non-skills stuff goes Green's quiet (some say "sleepy") demeanor, boring name, and lack of any leadership qualities further decrease his value. He's never going to sell tickets or generate excitement with your fan base. That kind of stuff can be important when a franchise considers a deal.

On the plus side, revenues are expected to go up in the future with new TV deals on the horizon and the salary cap should bump up a bit.