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Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2014, 03:39:51 PM »

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Unless you are a role player away, or can get a star for cheap, the priority now is saving money.

Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2014, 03:40:20 PM »

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Maybe the fallout from the Perk trade made a lot of playoff teams less willing to make risky mid-season trades and more inclined to keep their deals to tinkering around the edges.

Perhaps that's a factor.  I think the biggest factor is probably the new repeater penalties with the luxury tax.  Teams are only willing to dip into the luxury tax is they really think they can win THIS SEASON, and they're reluctant to take on future salary if they even think it might force them into the luxury tax.
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Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2014, 03:40:55 PM »

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I'd offer Bradley more than the MLE.  I'd consider offering more per year if he would take three years rather than four or else I would ask for the fourth year to be mostly unguaranteed.

I'd like having a contract that would be expiring or could be treated as if it were expiring in the summer of 2016.
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Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2014, 03:58:29 PM »

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Maybe the fallout from the Perk trade made a lot of playoff teams less willing to make risky mid-season trades and more inclined to keep their deals to tinkering around the edges.

Perhaps that's a factor.  I think the biggest factor is probably the new repeater penalties with the luxury tax.  Teams are only willing to dip into the luxury tax is they really think they can win THIS SEASON, and they're reluctant to take on future salary if they even think it might force them into the luxury tax.

Even the lakers dont want to mess around with the repeater tax.

Miami was willing to move picks just to get Joel Anthony's remaining 3.8 million off the cap.

The repeater tax is changing everyhing . .....outside of Brooklyn. We will see how much the knicks are willing to keep spending,

Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2014, 03:59:51 PM »

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Unless you are a role player away, or can get a star for cheap, the priority now is saving money.

Yeah......owners are wanting to max the revenues ......pushing to earn every fine possible......so you line up star talent to sell seats and tee shirts and sell TV time ..

Guys who are marketable ....like Blake Griffin ,  are highly prized for just more than basketball.

I expect the fight , or throwing money to become more intense as competition for certain stars heats up.


Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2014, 04:10:44 PM »

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This is why I still think Green is overpaid. Sure he's not a disaster contract because he stays healthy and still produces, but nobody is taking on your long term deals these days. Flexibility is the name of the game.

It would have been different if he had become more of a go-to guy that teams viewed as a potential third piece to push them over the top, but he hasn't shown that kind of improvement in his game and now he probably never will.

Also, as far as non-skills stuff goes Green's quiet (some say "sleepy") demeanor, boring name, and lack of any leadership qualities further decrease his value. He's never going to sell tickets or generate excitement with your fan base. That kind of stuff can be important when a franchise considers a deal.

On the plus side, revenues are expected to go up in the future with new TV deals on the horizon and the salary cap should bump up a bit.



Yep . . . Green's deal is fair if you already have 3 or 4 really great starters in place and all you need is a wing who can be a complementary scorer and hold his own on defense while occasionally having a big scoring night when the matchups are in his favor.

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Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2014, 04:12:20 PM »

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I'd offer Bradley more than the MLE.  I'd consider offering more per year if he would take three years rather than four or else I would ask for the fourth year to be mostly unguaranteed.

I'd like having a contract that would be expiring or could be treated as if it were expiring in the summer of 2016.


Honestly, we're not winning anything next year.  I'd rather start Chris Johnson or one of the guys we draft this summer at the 2 all season and wait until we have the core stars in place before we decide which supporting players we're going to invest $$ in.
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Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2014, 06:20:09 PM »

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I'd offer Bradley more than the MLE.  I'd consider offering more per year if he would take three years rather than four or else I would ask for the fourth year to be mostly unguaranteed.

I'd like having a contract that would be expiring or could be treated as if it were expiring in the summer of 2016.


Honestly, we're not winning anything next year.  I'd rather start Chris Johnson or one of the guys we draft this summer at the 2 all season and wait until we have the core stars in place before we decide which supporting players we're going to invest $$ in.
I agree but it is difficult to pull off.  Unless we pull a Mia and pull multiple stars in at once, then we would need at least one star or a good team to be able to pull even one star to the team.

Stars are not coming to a team to start over.  It will take a tightrope act to get it done.

Re: Welcome to the New CBA
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2014, 07:09:38 PM »

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I'd offer Bradley more than the MLE.  I'd consider offering more per year if he would take three years rather than four or else I would ask for the fourth year to be mostly unguaranteed.

I'd like having a contract that would be expiring or could be treated as if it were expiring in the summer of 2016.


Honestly, we're not winning anything next year.  I'd rather start Chris Johnson or one of the guys we draft this summer at the 2 all season and wait until we have the core stars in place before we decide which supporting players we're going to invest $$ in.
Stars are not coming to a team to start over.  It will take a tightrope act to get it done.

That's why getting those stars in the draft or trading draft assets for those stars is so important.
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