Rockets - Celtics Trade Rumor (weak source)

[fairweatherfan]

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Last time we heard the Celtics+Rockets were in advanced trade talks, it turned out to be Houston shenanigans.  Is this Rondo talk more Houston shenanigans?  Discuss!!

[esel1000]

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Last time we heard the Celtics+Rockets were in advanced trade talks, it turned out to be Houston shenanigans.  Is this Rondo talk more Houston shenanigans?  Discuss!!

I hope so based on the current offers... If the Rockets want Rondo, you don't expect less than Jones and Parsons end of story. Oh and picks. Rondo would give them a big 3, you have to give to get

[Tr1boy]

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Last time we heard the Celtics+Rockets were in advanced trade talks, it turned out to be Houston shenanigans.  Is this Rondo talk more Houston shenanigans?  Discuss!!

lol.

Honestly the Rockets are fools not to do anything. They will be in serious penalty situation with their cap or their team will have no supporting players next season

Nobody wants asik or lin.  The only team it looks like that has the cap space to take them in are the Celtics. Rockets should consider adding CP and get the deal done =P

[LooseCannon]

For those who think  Morey is a genius and Rondo is overrated, if Houston is serious about acquiring Rondo, does that decrease your opinion of Morey or increase your opinion of Rondo?

[Birdman]

I really think Asik will be traded..but to what team?

[LarBrd33]

The Rockets are a terrible trade partner... I feel like a trade involving Rondo would only be worth it if you at least got Parsons and on top of that high first rounders, which the Rockets  don't have... any other trades would be a joke, and the idea that Morey wouldn't include Parsons in a deal for Rondo is a sad. Unless something really changes here like a 3rd team gets involved I'll bet this goes nowhere. DA is not a stupid man

Rondo + Green for Asik,Lin, Parsons, 2014 1st , 2016 1st  works for me. I hope it happens

I doubt this much would be sent our way  .....but if Rondo. Has to go .......then I would be good with this haul.

That would be a great trade for Boston. 

[BballTim]

Asik, Lin, Jones, Smith or Beverly, 2014 1st

for

Rondo, Bass, Pressey (since he would likely be waived anyway)


I think this is a reasonable trade.  Not a homerun, but certainly solid value even without Parsons.

  If we're getting back someone who's likely to be a top level player then it's a reasonable trade. Who are we getting that fits the bill?

Why would a team trade for Rondo and give the celts a top level player back in return??

When have you ever seen that happen in basketball?

Guys like Williams, Harden were traded for picks and prospects.  What makes Rondo so much better then them, that we deserve to get back alot more?

   What's the motivation for trading Rondo, aside from your wanting him off the roster? Do we just want to make the team worse? Both of those teams would have been better if they'd kept the stars they traded away. They were pretty much forced to make the trades they did. We don't have to.

The Thunder lost the deal because they traded a very young player (Harden was around 22), but I think you need to examine the Jazz/Brooklyn trade more closely. The Jazz acquired Harris, Favors, 2011 1st rd pick (#3), and the 2013 1st rd pick (#21). With the 3rd pick the Jazz selected Kanter and the other pick was later traded away to Minny. However, the point is that the Jazz would not have been better with Williams (27 at the time of the deal), and we could only pray we could get that type of return for Rondo (who turns 28 in a couple of days).

  Yes, because as far as you can tell the Jazz are *much* better now than they were when Deron was there.

How short sighted of you. Utah tried time and time again to win with Deron and couldn't. Even worse he turned out to be a coach killer, at least in the only circumstances that mattered to management (in Utah with Sloan). They traded him and in a matter of less than five years are poised to turn the corner and become stronger than before. Look at Deron now. If you're the Jazz, do you do that deal again? Yes x1000000

  They traded Deron because he was a coach killer, not because they couldn't win with him. 5 straight playoff trips, 2 conference semis and 1 conference finals. They look to be poised to turn the corner, same as the Cavs or the Bucks or the Kings. Let me know when they have as much success as they did with Deron. I won't wait up.

Zero Finals appearances, never mind any rings.

  Fine. Tell me when you expect rings, or at least finals appearances, from the current Jazz team. Be as specific as possible. Again, if that's too difficult, let me know how long you expect it to take them to eclipse the success they had with Deron.

[Tr1boy]

For those who think  Morey is a genius and Rondo is overrated, if Houston is serious about acquiring Rondo, does that decrease your opinion of Morey or increase your opinion of Rondo?

How can someone draft Royce White and be considerd a genius?

[LarBrd33]

The Rockets are a terrible trade partner... I feel like a trade involving Rondo would only be worth it if you at least got Parsons and on top of that high first rounders, which the Rockets  don't have... any other trades would be a joke, and the idea that Morey wouldn't include Parsons in a deal for Rondo is a sad. Unless something really changes here like a 3rd team gets involved I'll bet this goes nowhere. DA is not a stupid man

Rondo + Green for Asik,Lin, Parsons, 2014 1st , 2016 1st  works for me. I hope it happens

I doubt this much would be sent our way  .....but if Rondo. Has to go .......then I would be good with this haul.

That would be a great trade for Boston.

Follow it up by trading Sully, Humph's expiring and all our 2014 picks for Kevin Love.

Then trade Bradley and picks for Hayward.

Trot out an All-White Guy lineup of C - Asik, PF - Love, SF - Parsons, SG - Hayward, PG - Lin...   Nothing but white guys.

[LooseCannon]

Honestly the Rockets are fools not to do anything. They will be in serious penalty situation with their cap or their team will have no supporting players next season

If the Rockets signed a first-round pick and also used the full MLE on a player, they would probably still be under the luxury tax threshold.

[BballTim]

The Rockets are a terrible trade partner... I feel like a trade involving Rondo would only be worth it if you at least got Parsons and on top of that high first rounders, which the Rockets  don't have... any other trades would be a joke, and the idea that Morey wouldn't include Parsons in a deal for Rondo is a sad. Unless something really changes here like a 3rd team gets involved I'll bet this goes nowhere. DA is not a stupid man

Rondo + Green for Asik,Lin, Parsons, 2014 1st , 2016 1st  works for me. I hope it happens

I doubt this much would be sent our way  .....but if Rondo. Has to go .......then I would be good with this haul.

That would be a great trade for Boston.

  That would be super, we could be like the Rockets only without Dwight or Harden. I guess that's better than the trades that would make us somewhat like the Kings without Cousins or Detroit without Drummond. Hopefully Danny's shooting for something better.

[LarBrd33]

The Rockets are a terrible trade partner... I feel like a trade involving Rondo would only be worth it if you at least got Parsons and on top of that high first rounders, which the Rockets  don't have... any other trades would be a joke, and the idea that Morey wouldn't include Parsons in a deal for Rondo is a sad. Unless something really changes here like a 3rd team gets involved I'll bet this goes nowhere. DA is not a stupid man

Rondo + Green for Asik,Lin, Parsons, 2014 1st , 2016 1st  works for me. I hope it happens

I doubt this much would be sent our way  .....but if Rondo. Has to go .......then I would be good with this haul.

That would be a great trade for Boston.

  That would be super, we could be like the Rockets only without Dwight or Harden. I guess that's better than the trades that would make us somewhat like the Kings without Cousins or Detroit without Drummond. Hopefully Danny's shooting for something better.

Asik and Parsons would be phenomenal in Stevens system.  They both shoot really high percentages.  Asik is supposedly a great defender.    You'd still have lots and lots and lots of assets leftover.

Theoretically you could still end up in the bottom 5 to add a superstar scorer to play with these guys.

Houston isn't giving up Parsons, though. 

[Tr1boy]

Honestly the Rockets are fools not to do anything. They will be in serious penalty situation with their cap or their team will have no supporting players next season

If the Rockets signed a first-round pick and also used the full MLE on a player, they would probably still be under the luxury tax threshold.

But you have to understand if they don't get far enough this year , and they virtually have the same team next year, how much better can they get??

It's also risky for them to pick up Parsons option (less than 1 million) and hope that he stays the year after. 

[BballTim]

Asik, Lin, Jones, Smith or Beverly, 2014 1st

for

Rondo, Bass, Pressey (since he would likely be waived anyway)


I think this is a reasonable trade.  Not a homerun, but certainly solid value even without Parsons.

  If we're getting back someone who's likely to be a top level player then it's a reasonable trade. Who are we getting that fits the bill?

Why would a team trade for Rondo and give the celts a top level player back in return??

When have you ever seen that happen in basketball?

Guys like Williams, Harden were traded for picks and prospects.  What makes Rondo so much better then them, that we deserve to get back alot more?

   What's the motivation for trading Rondo, aside from your wanting him off the roster? Do we just want to make the team worse? Both of those teams would have been better if they'd kept the stars they traded away. They were pretty much forced to make the trades they did. We don't have to.

The Thunder lost the deal because they traded a very young player (Harden was around 22), but I think you need to examine the Jazz/Brooklyn trade more closely. The Jazz acquired Harris, Favors, 2011 1st rd pick (#3), and the 2013 1st rd pick (#21). With the 3rd pick the Jazz selected Kanter and the other pick was later traded away to Minny. However, the point is that the Jazz would not have been better with Williams (27 at the time of the deal), and we could only pray we could get that type of return for Rondo (who turns 28 in a couple of days).

  Yes, because as far as you can tell the Jazz are *much* better now than they were when Deron was there.

How short sighted of you. Utah tried time and time again to win with Deron and couldn't. Even worse he turned out to be a coach killer, at least in the only circumstances that mattered to management (in Utah with Sloan). They traded him and in a matter of less than five years are poised to turn the corner and become stronger than before. Look at Deron now. If you're the Jazz, do you do that deal again? Yes x1000000

  They traded Deron because he was a coach killer, not because they couldn't win with him. 5 straight playoff trips, 2 conference semis and 1 conference finals. They look to be poised to turn the corner, same as the Cavs or the Bucks or the Kings. Let me know when they have as much success as they did with Deron. I won't wait up.

Tim can you give me your plan as to when we will be good again?

I assume you want to give Rondo the max after next season. Then what? We are not likely get a high draft pick, its 50-50 FA will want to come over to play for us. So what is your plan for us to get better?

  Let me know what players are going to be available either through trade or as FAs leaving their teams over the next 3 years or so and I'll let you know. I'd say we'll draft a couple of players and probably make a couple of trades for now.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

The Rockets are a terrible trade partner... I feel like a trade involving Rondo would only be worth it if you at least got Parsons and on top of that high first rounders, which the Rockets  don't have... any other trades would be a joke, and the idea that Morey wouldn't include Parsons in a deal for Rondo is a sad. Unless something really changes here like a 3rd team gets involved I'll bet this goes nowhere. DA is not a stupid man

Rondo + Green for Asik,Lin, Parsons, 2014 1st , 2016 1st  works for me. I hope it happens

I doubt this much would be sent our way  .....but if Rondo. Has to go .......then I would be good with this haul.

That would be a great trade for Boston.

Follow it up by trading Sully, Humph's expiring and all our 2014 picks for Kevin Love.

Then trade Bradley and picks for Hayward.

Trot out an All-White Guy lineup of C - Asik, PF - Love, SF - Parsons, SG - Hayward, PG - Lin...   Nothing but white guys.

Well, Lin's ethnically Chinese and Taiwanese, which I don't think is considered white.