Danny wants to build around rondo, green,sully (rumor)

[manl_lui]

Smoke screen. Everyone is on the table ready for a trade. DA will say these things, and expect anyone offering a weak offer to re-consider. DA ain't moving Rondo unless for superstars or great prospects/picks, and same applies to Sully.

Green has shown his ability to be the 2nd or 3rd best player. That is still considered an valuable asset, when you factor in his production and his ability to score. For under 10 million, Green is a bargain.

That is just my take though.

perfectly said.

also good point, I think we are still building around Rondo, but knowing Danny, if the right opportunity comes up, he will jump all over that. We will keep getting in assets and young prospects while listening to offers for our players. Danny isn't someone who will low sell someone

[kozlodoev]

makes sense, 3 good all around players, 1 being a upper level player
add in a scary draft pick and sign a top notch free agent and that is a contender

Neither Rondo nor Sullinger are anything close to "good all around players".

I hope you're saying they're better than that. No?

Perhaps you need to check the definition of "all-around"? You're talking about a guard who can't make threes or free throws, and a big who doesn't really block or challenge shots. No matter how good you consider these two players to be, they're not "all-around" due to the fact that you need to alter your game plan to cover for the things they don't do well.

[LooseCannon]

Rondo and Sullinger, with Bradley and/or Green, plus a superstar to be acquired  (probably with draft picks) is a plausible core for a championship team and one that Ainge has a realistic shot of putting together if he just waits for the next available star.

[Nerf DPOY]

Didn't see this posted as a thread, sry if it already has been posted

 http://msn.foxsports.com/ohio/story/nba-beat-raptors-lowry-tops-list-of-potential-trade-pieces-021014

Most executives contacted by FOX Sports Ohio say it seems moreand morelikelythat Ainge and coach Brad Stevens want to build around point guard Rajon Rondo, forward Jeff Green and second-year big man Jared Sullinger, the reigning Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

Everyone else, however, appears to be available. (And even those three aren't considered untouchable.)

Outside of Rondo, Green and Sullinger, forward Brandon Bass and guard Avery Bradley are drawing the most interest. The samegoesfor backup forward Kris Humphries, whose $12 million contractis set to expire.

 


I would probably do a hump, bradley for asik, late 1st trade

I would still trade green if I'm danny, he provides to much scoring for us to tank ...

Makes sense to me. Rondo, Green, and Sully going forward provides a nice young core. If we can use the plethora of first round picks and a few of our other assets to net a big fish defensive center and a legit scoring 2 guard then I like the structure of our future.

Aflallo comes to mind but isnt exactly the superstar we would need to contend with this squad.

Rondo is almost 30 and Green will be 28. That's hardly a young core. Deal them both for picks. Keep Sullinger for now. He's young and if his back holds up he'll probably be comparable to Z-BO

Again with this? It's becoming pathological.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=69457.15

Good thing ESPN generally doesn't know what they are talking about. The Celtics need to trade Rondo. He's going to be 30 soon. Take what you can get for him and move on.

[aingeforthree]

I can easily see why Ainge wants to build around those 3 if this is even true.  I feel the same way.

He's a 2 guard, a big, and a solid bench away from being a contending playoff team. With the assets at hand, he can fill in the blanks very soon.

Just have to stay patience and not make irrational trades just to satisfy the fan base.

[rondohondo]

I can easily see why Ainge wants to build around those 3 if this is even true.  I feel the same way.

He's a 2 guard, a big, and a solid bench away from being a contending playoff team. With the assets at hand, he can fill in the blanks very soon.

Just have to stay patience and not make irrational trades just to satisfy the fan base.

I would say he is a top 5 sg, who can be a go to guy , and a defnisive anchor ,and a bench away from being top 3 in the east.....

[BballTim]

Didn't see this posted as a thread, sry if it already has been posted

 http://msn.foxsports.com/ohio/story/nba-beat-raptors-lowry-tops-list-of-potential-trade-pieces-021014

Most executives contacted by FOX Sports Ohio say it seems moreand morelikelythat Ainge and coach Brad Stevens want to build around point guard Rajon Rondo, forward Jeff Green and second-year big man Jared Sullinger, the reigning Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

Everyone else, however, appears to be available. (And even those three aren't considered untouchable.)

Outside of Rondo, Green and Sullinger, forward Brandon Bass and guard Avery Bradley are drawing the most interest. The samegoesfor backup forward Kris Humphries, whose $12 million contractis set to expire.

 


I would probably do a hump, bradley for asik, late 1st trade

I would still trade green if I'm danny, he provides to much scoring for us to tank ...

Makes sense to me. Rondo, Green, and Sully going forward provides a nice young core. If we can use the plethora of first round picks and a few of our other assets to net a big fish defensive center and a legit scoring 2 guard then I like the structure of our future.

Aflallo comes to mind but isnt exactly the superstar we would need to contend with this squad.

Rondo is almost 30 and Green will be 28. That's hardly a young core. Deal them both for picks. Keep Sullinger for now. He's young and if his back holds up he'll probably be comparable to Z-BO

  Rondo's probably 4-5 years younger than KG and Ray were when we traded for them and we had a 5 year or so window with them on the team. Trading him for a draft pick that's not likely to be close to as good as him is silly.

[2short]

makes sense, 3 good all around players, 1 being a upper level player
add in a scary draft pick and sign a top notch free agent and that is a contender

Neither Rondo nor Sullinger are anything close to "good all around players".

wow
sully good passer, very good rebounder, good scorer, good defender
rondo great passer, very good rebounder for guard, good scorer, good-very good defender

[BballTim]

makes sense, 3 good all around players, 1 being a upper level player
add in a scary draft pick and sign a top notch free agent and that is a contender

Neither Rondo nor Sullinger are anything close to "good all around players".

  Rondo's a great all-around player, although he doesn't fit into the typical "scores well and isn't really above average at anything else" definition you generally see.

[D.o.s.]

I think it still remains to be seen if either Sullinger or Rondo are good defenders, although I'm too busy to check their defensive numbers from this year right now.

[sofutomygaha]

makes sense, 3 good all around players, 1 being a upper level player
add in a scary draft pick and sign a top notch free agent and that is a contender

Neither Rondo nor Sullinger are anything close to "good all around players".

wow
sully good passer, very good rebounder, good scorer, good defender
rondo great passer, very good rebounder for guard, good scorer, good-very good defender

Agree. Kozlo I think you're trying a little too hard to be provocative. Rondo is definitely a very good two-way player, and Sullinger is definitely close to being one or at least on the path to becoming one. It's probably early to talk about whether Sullinger is a good defender, but there's certainly no evidence that he is below average (which for a 2nd year power forward is very positive). The Celtics defense is above-average and it improves when he is on the floor

[Cman]

Smoke screen.

Agreed. It probably means that Green is close to being traded, and Danny's trying to up the value.

[aingeforthree]

I can easily see why Ainge wants to build around those 3 if this is even true.  I feel the same way.

He's a 2 guard, a big, and a solid bench away from being a contending playoff team. With the assets at hand, he can fill in the blanks very soon.

Just have to stay patience and not make irrational trades just to satisfy the fan base.

I would say he is a top 5 sg, who can be a go to guy , and a defnisive anchor ,and a bench away from being top 3 in the east.....

Probably true.  That's why there is no reason to move Green unless someone gives him an overwhelming deal.

He has all the assets to acquire the top 5 SG, a bench, & a defensive anchor in the middle.

Ainge has setup this rebuild quite nicely and it will pay to have patience in the long run.

[BballTim]

I think it still remains to be seen if either Sullinger or Rondo are good defenders, although I'm too busy to check their defensive numbers from this year right now.

  Rondo's got about 7 years of better than average numbers to go along with his 4 years on all-defense teams. He has a couple of top 5 finishes for DPOY as well. Aside from all of that, it's a close call.

[kozlodoev]

makes sense, 3 good all around players, 1 being a upper level player
add in a scary draft pick and sign a top notch free agent and that is a contender

Neither Rondo nor Sullinger are anything close to "good all around players".

wow
sully good passer, very good rebounder, good scorer, good defender
rondo great passer, very good rebounder for guard, good scorer, good-very good defender

Agree. Kozlo I think you're trying a little too hard to be provocative. Rondo is definitely a very good two-way player, and Sullinger is definitely close to being one or at least on the path to becoming one. It's probably early to talk about whether Sullinger is a good defender, but there's certainly no evidence that he is below average (which for a 2nd year power forward is very positive). The Celtics defense is above-average and it improves when he is on the floor

I'm not trying to be provocative. That both Rondo and Sullinger have game-altering flaws which force you to figure out how to actively cover for them is a fact. That you choose to ignore this is not my problem.