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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2014, 11:20:30 AM »

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Get value for him while you can, before other teams realize he's injury prone.  I'm certain we're not going to pay him what his agent thinks he's worth so package him now.  I would be willing to give Atlanta Jeff Green (but only with Wallace), and Bradley for Carroll, Brand, Lou Will and that Nets pick.  Don't know if the salaries would match but I wouldn't mind having Williams in place of AB. If you want a scoring 2 he's one of the better ones.  Defense is a whole different story.  I would have kept Brooks honestly.  He's young and just needed time to learn how to play defense after being in Jersey since being drafted.

Marshon Brooks is 2 years older than Bradley, is terrible defensively, and offensively doesn't know how to make good decisions. Yes he can score, but he can't pass, and is virtually a taller, less able defender, and overrated prospect by many GM's.

I wouldn't do that trade. I think Green and Bradley is at least worth more than that.
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2014, 11:21:21 AM »

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Avery Bradley's.  .......schooling ....learning to shoot while playing for the Boston Celtics ....

Ruff stuff if you care about winning

But does wonders for a tanking season.



He is worth maybe 1/2. ..... What he is expecting to get .   no way.......give me Johnson at Bradley s present salary .

Let him go with Green for cap space and picks.

Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2014, 11:21:36 AM »

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Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, DeMarr Derozan etc....at least those guys can make layups. Not only does Avery miss contested layups, he misses wide open ones as well. Seriously, his finishing ability and ball handling are D-League level. He can make wide open jumpers, but if anyone puts a hand in his face the ball will ricochet off the side of the backboard.

Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2014, 11:33:08 AM »

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Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, DeMarr Derozan etc....at least those guys can make layups. Not only does Avery miss contested layups, he misses wide open ones as well. Seriously, his finishing ability and ball handling are D-League level. He can make wide open jumpers, but if anyone puts a hand in his face the ball will ricochet off the side of the backboard.

Yup ...all this......and he gets blocked on layups or cuts besides the ones he misses.

He is a elite defensive stopper.   Telling him to stop the lock down defense and shoot ......well

That's the same as saying

Tank the Season


Worse he is terrible passer , telegraphs passes,  timing is way off ,  very poor point guard skills for NBA level.

He is a game changer if he is allowed to beast on defense and add what he can offensively .  Over wise ,  he has poor skill set and is short. For a shooting guard on a team with NO Center ....ugh

Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2014, 11:35:34 AM »

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Being like this will make you pretty close to garbage offensively.

It's really not.  Do you get tired of that level of hyperbole?  Really raises the stakes all the time.

His offensive game isn't garbage.  It just isn't.  He's being asked to take a lot of shots (again, someone has to) and he's doing fine with that.  His shooting certainly has looked way better.
We don't know know what he's being asked. For all I care, he takes a million shots just because trying to move the ball has always panned out as an abject disaster for him.

Yeah, perhaps his shooting has "looked better" ... for a 10-game stretch here or there. But over the last three seasons, he shot .370, .360, and .390 on jump shots. This is pretty awful, really.

Sure, he can contribute with the corner three and the backdoor cut with reasonable efficiency. But I've never, ever, seen a guard who looks so hopeless with the ball in his hands for more than 2 seconds.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2014, 11:45:21 AM »

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Being like this will make you pretty close to garbage offensively.

It's really not.  Do you get tired of that level of hyperbole?  Really raises the stakes all the time.

His offensive game isn't garbage.  It just isn't.  He's being asked to take a lot of shots (again, someone has to) and he's doing fine with that.  His shooting certainly has looked way better.
We don't know know what he's being asked. For all I care, he takes a million shots just because trying to move the ball has always panned out as an abject disaster for him.


Whenever Ainge talks about the offense, he says players need to take shots... basically the three that do are Jeff, Avery, and Sullinger.  In talking on Jeff Green in his interview, he said Jeff wasn't the number one option scorer and mentioned Sullinger and Avery ahead of him.  Listen to the last interview to hear it.  It's been talked about before that.  They are asking Avery to shoot the ball.  Again, someone has to shoot the ball.

Disaster, garbage, any other ones?  Maybe his passing is a "tragedy"?  "Abomination"?  Not many adjectives to further demean him left.
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2014, 11:52:03 AM »

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Being like this will make you pretty close to garbage offensively.

It's really not.  Do you get tired of that level of hyperbole?  Really raises the stakes all the time.

His offensive game isn't garbage.  It just isn't.  He's being asked to take a lot of shots (again, someone has to) and he's doing fine with that.  His shooting certainly has looked way better.
We don't know know what he's being asked. For all I care, he takes a million shots just because trying to move the ball has always panned out as an abject disaster for him.


Whenever Ainge talks about the offense, he says players need to take shots... basically the three that do are Jeff, Avery, and Sullinger.  In talking on Jeff Green in his interview, he said Jeff wasn't the number one option scorer and mentioned Sullinger and Avery ahead of him.  Listen to the last interview to hear it.  It's been talked about before that.  They are asking Avery to shoot the ball.  Again, someone has to shoot the ball.

Disaster, garbage, any other ones?  Maybe his passing is a "tragedy"?  "Abomination"?  Not many adjectives to further demean him left.
If the coaching staff's idea of a scoring option is Bradley chucking it from 18 feet like there's no tomorrow, they're a bigger "tragedy" than Bradley's shooting.
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2014, 11:56:03 AM »

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This season is about player development and one thing they are trying to develop is Avery Bradley learning to shoot and be more of a useful player on offense.

It's something that needs to be done, just like finding out if Sullinger and Olynyk can learn to be useful three-point shooters.
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2014, 12:11:43 PM »

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This season is about player development and one thing they are trying to develop is Avery Bradley learning to shoot and be more of a useful player on offense.

It's something that needs to be done, just like finding out if Sullinger and Olynyk can learn to be useful three-point shooters.
I have never seen a player who "learned to shoot" by launching a million clunkers in-game.
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2014, 12:17:57 PM »

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This season is about player development and one thing they are trying to develop is Avery Bradley learning to shoot and be more of a useful player on offense.

It's something that needs to be done, just like finding out if Sullinger and Olynyk can learn to be useful three-point shooters.
I have never seen a player who "learned to shoot" by launching a million clunkers in-game.

When I watch Bradley play, it tends to not look like horrible shot selection.
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2014, 12:23:11 PM »

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This season is about player development and one thing they are trying to develop is Avery Bradley learning to shoot and be more of a useful player on offense.

It's something that needs to be done, just like finding out if Sullinger and Olynyk can learn to be useful three-point shooters.
I have never seen a player who "learned to shoot" by launching a million clunkers in-game.

When I watch Bradley play, it tends to not look like horrible shot selection.
When I watch Bradley play, the only shot he seems to want to take is a one-step pull-up 18-footer from the wing. The problem is that's a horrible shot unless you can make it with high regularity, and he can't really.

On the other hand, it's hard to say what's "good shot selection" for Bradley, because the only shot that he's made at a reasonable rate over his career is the corner 3.
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2014, 12:24:44 PM »

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This season is about player development and one thing they are trying to develop is Avery Bradley learning to shoot and be more of a useful player on offense.

It's something that needs to be done, just like finding out if Sullinger and Olynyk can learn to be useful three-point shooters.
I have never seen a player who "learned to shoot" by launching a million clunkers in-game.

When I watch Bradley play, it tends to not look like horrible shot selection.

No one said anything about Avery Bradley's horrible shot selection, I think it is just more of a matter of Avery Bradley being horrible at shooting.

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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2014, 12:28:08 PM »

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I am a huge Avery Bradley fan. His defense is great, his shot selection is solid (how many of those jumpers he takes are contested? not many).

In general I try to avoid threads about him because I don't want to get wrapped up in an argument on how good he is. I think he is having a pretty good year, considering he has been told not to use his biggest asset (full court pressure). He is still young, and he will improve. Right now he is the type of 3 and d player that all teams need, but I expect him to improve and be so much more.

I am certainly getting tired of seeing anti Bradley threads every time he has a bad game.
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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2014, 12:46:56 PM »

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I am a huge Avery Bradley fan. His defense is great, his shot selection is solid (how many of those jumpers he takes are contested? not many).

In general I try to avoid threads about him because I don't want to get wrapped up in an argument on how good he is. I think he is having a pretty good year, considering he has been told not to use his biggest asset (full court pressure). He is still young, and he will improve. Right now he is the type of 3 and d player that all teams need, but I expect him to improve and be so much more.

I am certainly getting tired of seeing anti Bradley threads every time he has a bad game.
He has?
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2014, 02:00:56 PM »

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This season is about player development and one thing they are trying to develop is Avery Bradley learning to shoot and be more of a useful player on offense.

It's something that needs to be done, just like finding out if Sullinger and Olynyk can learn to be useful three-point shooters.
I have never seen a player who "learned to shoot" by launching a million clunkers in-game.

When I watch Bradley play, it tends to not look like horrible shot selection.

No one said anything about Avery Bradley's horrible shot selection, I think it is just more of a matter of Avery Bradley being horrible at shooting.

He has the upside to get better at shooting.  He's not going to get better without taking a lot of shots in NBA games.
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