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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2014, 09:13:57 AM »

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Bradley is still a work in progress.  I don't think he's as bad as some fans think, though. 

For perspective, his efficiency (eFG%) is the same as Bradley Beal's.  He's been shooting more efficiently than Russell Westbrook, John Wall, DeMar Derozan, Dion Waiters, Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis and Michael Carter-Williams.

The kid has some faults, and I don't want to see Danny overpay him.  However, he hasn't been the unmitigated disaster that some have claimed.  Also, I think it's important to remember that he's specifically been coached to shoot more, and to be less aggressive on defense.


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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2014, 09:36:59 AM »

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Who else is suppose to shoot this team lacks an identity. Green isn't a go to scorer every night so AB tries to be. I cant fault him for that. Undersize, injury prone and most importantly risk on over paying are reason to move him but his offense this season isn't on that list for me.
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2014, 10:34:45 AM »

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I hate Avery's game now. It reminds me of Big Baby before he got the boot out of town. Every pass that came into Big Baby's hands, for some reason he felt as though he needed to shoot it instead of keep it moving. Avery is doing the same thing, and hopefully  he gets traded as well.

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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2014, 10:36:52 AM »

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For perspective, his efficiency (eFG%) is the same as Bradley Beal's.  He's been shooting more efficiently than Russell Westbrook, John Wall, DeMar Derozan, Dion Waiters, Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis and Michael Carter-Williams.
That's dandy. How are his points per shot?

Also, you're not exactly making Bradley a compliment by saying he's shooting more efficiently by a list of known volume shooters, half of which can't or don't shoot threes.
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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2014, 10:49:27 AM »

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For perspective, his efficiency (eFG%) is the same as Bradley Beal's.  He's been shooting more efficiently than Russell Westbrook, John Wall, DeMar Derozan, Dion Waiters, Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis and Michael Carter-Williams.
That's dandy. How are his points per shot?

Also, you're not exactly making Bradley a compliment by saying he's shooting more efficiently by a list of known volume shooters, half of which can't or don't shoot threes.

Fans act like Bradley is chucking like one of the worst shooters in the league.  He's not.  He's grouped with some of the bigger "names" in the NBA. 

Bradley has been below-average in terms of his shooting this year, but I think that's to be expected as he's been asked to shoot more.  However, there's a huge chasm between below-average and garbage.  Too many fans put Bradley in the latter category, which is unwarranted.


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Re: Avery Bradley...
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2014, 10:52:13 AM »

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For perspective, his efficiency (eFG%) is the same as Bradley Beal's.  He's been shooting more efficiently than Russell Westbrook, John Wall, DeMar Derozan, Dion Waiters, Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis and Michael Carter-Williams.
That's dandy. How are his points per shot?

Also, you're not exactly making Bradley a compliment by saying he's shooting more efficiently by a list of known volume shooters, half of which can't or don't shoot threes.

Fans act like Bradley is chucking like one of the worst shooters in the league.  He's not.  He's grouped with some of the bigger "names" in the NBA. 

Bradley has been below-average in terms of his shooting this year, but I think that's to be expected as he's been asked to shoot more.  However, there's a huge chasm between below-average and garbage.  Too many fans put Bradley in the latter category, which is unwarranted.
That a player who is at a usage of 23 roughly is considering a chucker makes me long for the days of Walker/Pierce.

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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2014, 10:56:06 AM »

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Avery Bradley isn't even a bad 'chucker.' Yes, he does seem to take a lot of shots, but AB is hitting the mid range pretty efficiently. If thats your best shot, then take it..
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2014, 10:56:24 AM »

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I like last year's version of Avery Bradley better. You know, the one who played tough D, shoots when open, and played within himself. This version, on the other hand, is trolling for a contract. Hope Danny deals him to the highest bidder.


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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2014, 10:58:27 AM »

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For perspective, his efficiency (eFG%) is the same as Bradley Beal's.  He's been shooting more efficiently than Russell Westbrook, John Wall, DeMar Derozan, Dion Waiters, Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis and Michael Carter-Williams.
That's dandy. How are his points per shot?

Also, you're not exactly making Bradley a compliment by saying he's shooting more efficiently by a list of known volume shooters, half of which can't or don't shoot threes.

Fans act like Bradley is chucking like one of the worst shooters in the league.  He's not.  He's grouped with some of the bigger "names" in the NBA. 

Bradley has been below-average in terms of his shooting this year, but I think that's to be expected as he's been asked to shoot more.  However, there's a huge chasm between below-average and garbage.  Too many fans put Bradley in the latter category, which is unwarranted.
The fallacy with your example is that none of the players you listed is so well-roundedly below average in all offensive aspects of the game. They all have some redeeming factors -- either three-point shooting, some ability to get to the line, or some ability to handle/distribute the ball.

Bradley doesn't. He's the trifecta of mediocrity -- a mediocre shooter who is also a mediocre scorer with mediocre ability to distribute the ball. Being like this will make you pretty close to garbage offensively.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2014, 11:03:24 AM »

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I like last year's version of Avery Bradley better. You know, the one who played tough D, shoots when open, and played within himself. This version, on the other hand, is trolling for a contract. Hope Danny deals him to the highest bidder.

Agreed. Last year he was more of a cutter/slasher, but keep in mind that's when Doc was running the team. AB wouldn't dare hoist up shots last year or any other year the way he's hoisting them up this year.  It's like the kid who's strict parents went on vacation and the young babysitter is on watch!  ;D  I think he's more effective in that type of role than trying to be a scorer. 
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 11:12:54 AM »

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Get value for him while you can, before other teams realize he's injury prone.  I'm certain we're not going to pay him what his agent thinks he's worth so package him now.  I would be willing to give Atlanta Jeff Green (but only with Wallace), and Bradley for Carroll, Brand, Lou Will and that Nets pick.  Don't know if the salaries would match but I wouldn't mind having Williams in place of AB. If you want a scoring 2 he's one of the better ones.  Defense is a whole different story.  I would have kept Brooks honestly.  He's young and just needed time to learn how to play defense after being in Jersey since being drafted.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 11:15:17 AM »

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So just trade the whole [dang]ed team. That seems to be what the "chuckers" on this site want. Maybe they can find a matching expiring contract for every guy on the Celts and start next season with nobody and a full salary cap. Sheesh.

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2014, 11:15:50 AM »

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Why is Jeff Green worth $9 million a year, but Avery Bradley not worth $6 million or $7 million a year?

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2014, 11:17:42 AM »

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Why is Jeff Green worth $9 million a year, but Avery Bradley not worth $6 million or $7 million a year?

I don't think either is quite worth that.

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2014, 11:19:09 AM »

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Being like this will make you pretty close to garbage offensively.

It's really not.  Do you get tired of that level of hyperbole?  Really raises the stakes all the time.

His offensive game isn't garbage.  It just isn't.  He's being asked to take a lot of shots (again, someone has to) and he's doing fine with that.  His shooting certainly has looked way better.


Why is Jeff Green worth $9 million a year, but Avery Bradley not worth $6 million or $7 million a year?

You won't get any sense talking about numbers on this forum.  They all think Jeff Green should be paid 3 million a year.
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