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Danny must act now
« on: February 08, 2014, 12:53:11 AM »

Offline celticpride1

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With this team playing decent ball and with Rondo's return. He must do something if he is trying to get a top three pick.Dont get me wrong I don't think this team is as bad as this record shows. Buy if he want's us to loose than he must make those trades now. The eight seed is right in sight. I want trader Danny to show up this week.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 01:03:18 AM »

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Danny is not going to low sell his assets just because the team is winning...

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 01:22:31 AM »

Offline LarBrd33

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he will weigh all his options and pull the trigger on something at the deadline.  Just a few games away.  Just hang on.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 01:28:19 AM »

Offline Celtics18

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse. 
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 02:00:03 AM »

Offline fandrew

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I am just going to qoute what I said in another thread.

We aren't going to be any better in the standings than where we are now at the end of the season. And that is with a 3 game win streak that we are in. We have a brutal schedule coming up where maybe we win 1 or 2 out of the next ten or so games. We will probably be ranked at 3rd worst at some point this season again. And that is with Bass/Green and Hump/Wallace, and Bayless. What is the point of trading away most of these pieces now if it does not improve financial flexibility, get us a draft pick, or get us a player that would be a good fit for the team that Ainge wants to put together.

Ainge is trying to put together a winning team, and those players are his tradeable contracts. This summer, those pieces will have even more value, because then real dealing will begin; major roster overhauls are going to be all over the league. pieces can be used to move up in the draft if we only get pick 5 or 6. The draft is easily 6 deep with tier 1 prospects at this point. and at least from 7-15 with tier 2 prospects. this is a deep draft, and I expect Danny to move up to at least the number 4 spot if he falls short of that. But he will be using his contracted assets and his draft pick assets to get there, which means that he cant just trade everything away right now hoping to get a higher pick. He will get the higher pick one way or another.

And if we end up with better that the 5th worst record in the league I will be surprised. Maybe Ainge doesn't trade all those pieces at the deadline, but someone is going. And with the lingering injuries to AB and Rondo's recovery, I expect that we will continue to see them sitting, and against better teams than Sactown. I think that we will end the season with 8 more wins. that is all. I think that the lakers, sac, phili, orlando, teams will have better records than us. Only Utah and and Bucks are sure things to really bottom out.I think the Cavs will make a desperate attempt to get better by the trade deadline, but only just get better enough to either just make the playoffs or just miss them. All and all, I think that we are in good shape right now. Its good for the team to win sometimes.
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Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 02:02:10 AM »

Offline LarBrd33

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2014, 02:03:27 AM »

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This winning streak is short lived. They still have to do a long Feb WC road trip and will likely lose many. Danny does not need to make a move.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2014, 02:07:32 AM »

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

O.k., then, I'll put you in the corner of being staunchly in favor of "rashness and impatience."
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2014, 02:25:31 AM »

Offline LarBrd33

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

O.k., then, I'll put you in the corner of being staunchly in favor of "rashness and impatience."
We've gone back and forth on this.  Fully healthy this team has a ceiling of 36 wins.  I just don't see the next step a 36 win team can take to jump into relevancy.  They wouldn't have cap space.  Their draft picks would be very unlikely to net stars... the picks wouldn't be valuable on the trade market. 

Actually, now that I actually pause and give it thought, it's possible we could work out something next year involving Bass' expiring contract + some young assets and picks.   So really... you're probably right.  Whatever. Let it ride.  Let's dive into mediocrity.  Let's push Indiana to a 6 game series.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2014, 02:30:22 AM »

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

O.k., then, I'll put you in the corner of being staunchly in favor of "rashness and impatience."
We've gone back and forth on this.  Fully healthy this team has a ceiling of 36 wins.  I just don't see the next step a 36 win team can take to jump into relevancy.  They wouldn't have cap space.  Their draft picks would be very unlikely to net stars... the picks wouldn't be valuable on the trade market. 

Actually, now that I actually pause and give it thought, it's possible we could work out something next year involving Bass' expiring contract + some young assets and picks.   So really... you're probably right.  Whatever. Let it ride.  Let's dive into mediocrity.  Let's push Indiana to a 6 game series.

Let's not and say we did, and them draft embiid, wiggins, Parker, randle, smart, exum, or Gordon.


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Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2014, 02:31:06 AM »

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

O.k., then, I'll put you in the corner of being staunchly in favor of "rashness and impatience."
We've gone back and forth on this.  Fully healthy this team has a ceiling of 36 wins.  I just don't see the next step a 36 win team can take to jump into relevancy.  They wouldn't have cap space.  Their draft picks would be very unlikely to net stars... the picks wouldn't be valuable on the trade market. 

Actually, now that I actually pause and give it thought, it's possible we could work out something next year involving Bass' expiring contract + some young assets and picks.   So really... you're probably right.  Whatever. Let it ride.  Let's dive into mediocrity.  Let's push Indiana to a 6 game series.

Excellent.  Glad to hear that you are in complete agreement.  It's settled, then. 
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2014, 02:40:47 AM »

Offline LarBrd33

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

O.k., then, I'll put you in the corner of being staunchly in favor of "rashness and impatience."
We've gone back and forth on this.  Fully healthy this team has a ceiling of 36 wins.  I just don't see the next step a 36 win team can take to jump into relevancy.  They wouldn't have cap space.  Their draft picks would be very unlikely to net stars... the picks wouldn't be valuable on the trade market. 

Actually, now that I actually pause and give it thought, it's possible we could work out something next year involving Bass' expiring contract + some young assets and picks.   So really... you're probably right.  Whatever. Let it ride.  Let's dive into mediocrity.  Let's push Indiana to a 6 game series.

Excellent.  Glad to hear that you are in complete agreement.  It's settled, then.
It's settled.  You win. 



Rondo + Sully can be the new Big 2.  The newage Walker and Pierce.   Maybe at some point we can win 45 games and make the Eastern Conference Finals.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2014, 02:55:01 AM »

Offline tstorey_97

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Best case is 32 wins by seasons end. Might make playoffs in the one year where being 18 games under .500 is enough.

Earlier this year they won, then they were what? 4-13?

Will be .500 against weaker teams and won't get much done against the good ones. Three in a row against three of the
bottom five in league. Crush Dirk on Sunday? Why not, sick of losing.

Good mix of vets and youth. There are worse rosters in the NBA.

Prefer to be happy with some wins than caring about future 19 year olds. You can't control this....let it go...they have meetings to help with those feelings.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2014, 03:05:13 AM »

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There's no need to act impatiently or rashly here.  If he finds a deal he likes, he'll take it.  Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to make any moves just for the sake of it, certainly not for the sake of getting worse.
I disagree.  Your dream scenario (standing pat and making the playoffs with a below .500 record) represents what I see as the absolute worst-case scenario for this team.

O.k., then, I'll put you in the corner of being staunchly in favor of "rashness and impatience."
We've gone back and forth on this.  Fully healthy this team has a ceiling of 36 wins.  I just don't see the next step a 36 win team can take to jump into relevancy.  They wouldn't have cap space.  Their draft picks would be very unlikely to net stars... the picks wouldn't be valuable on the trade market. 

Actually, now that I actually pause and give it thought, it's possible we could work out something next year involving Bass' expiring contract + some young assets and picks.   So really... you're probably right.  Whatever. Let it ride.  Let's dive into mediocrity.  Let's push Indiana to a 6 game series.

Excellent.  Glad to hear that you are in complete agreement.  It's settled, then.
It's settled.  You win. 



Rondo + Sully can be the new Big 2.  The newage Walker and Pierce.   Maybe at some point we can win 45 games and make the Eastern Conference Finals.

Re: Danny must act now
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2014, 05:09:07 AM »

Offline BballTim

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Danny is not going to low sell his assets just because the team is winning...

  This is true. Doing whatever he can to secure a high draft pick is a "tail wagging the dog" scenario.