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Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2014, 07:48:17 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.

It's almost like Ainge started doing the right thing and blowing the team up then got cold feet with the rest of the roster. That's unacceptable if you are the GM. You need to do what's going to benefit your team long term. In this scenario it's tanking. Rondo must go! Green must go!
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Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2014, 07:50:22 AM »

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This is hurting the team long term. Rondo is selfish and wants to be a diva and show that he hasn't lost anything and can be the man. He doesn't see that this is bad for the Celtics long term that is why Ainge needs to move him. Let a contender have Rondo. Take on Rondo and Wallace, give the C's another first in 2014 and the problem is solved.

  Yes, all the guys who want to see the team flounder indefinitely will be thrilled. Danny should make it a team policy that any player that's a diva who's selfish enough to hurt the team by playing well is on the next bus out of town. That policy should remain in effect until we've gone at least as long without a title as the Clippers or the Kings. We should have acquired plenty of assets by then.

The Celtics will have a title before those two franchises. The 76ers have been a treadmill team until this year and the Kings play in the West. As for the Clippers they could win this year. Never know the way Lob City is playing.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2014, 07:58:01 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.

It's almost like Ainge started doing the right thing and blowing the team up then got cold feet with the rest of the roster. That's unacceptable if you are the GM. You need to do what's going to benefit your team long term. In this scenario it's tanking. Rondo must go! Green must go!
There have to be good offers for Ainge to let those guys go.  What would be unacceptable would be to give up assets without getting equal value in return.   

I want to lose as badly as you but you can't fault players for playing with 100% effort or not sitting out with injuries that don't exist anymore.

A GM can choose a direction he wants the team to go in, but that doesn't mean they are supposed to just give players away.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2014, 07:59:10 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.
Would you prefer if I said very good? Enjoy a very good PG in the NBA returning from injury? The league has been decimated this season, we should be so lucky to have our best player coming along reasonably well.

I like watching basketball, and I enjoy Rondo's game. Always have since his first summer league stint. I enjoy it quite a bit more than Mario Chalmers, for example. More importantly he's the on court leader of this team, so yes I'm going to root for his success and health over grumbling about being overrated and ruining Ainge's master plan to hit rock bottom.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2014, 07:59:55 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.

  When he was injured he was heading to his 4th straight all-star game and he was 3rd team all-nba in his last full season. If he's overrated it's not on celticsblog, it's a league-wide thing.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2014, 08:08:10 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.
Would you prefer if I said very good? Enjoy a very good PG in the NBA returning from injury? The league has been decimated this season, we should be so lucky to have our best player coming along reasonably well.

I like watching basketball, and I enjoy Rondo's game. Always have since his first summer league stint. I enjoy it quite a bit more than Mario Chalmers, for example. More importantly he's the on court leader of this team, so yes I'm going to root for his success and health over grumbling about being overrated and ruining Ainge's master plan to hit rock bottom.

I look at Rondo and Chalmers the same. One is extremely flawed defensively but is the best clutch shooter in the NBA and the other is great defensively but will never become a great shooter. I don't understand the resistance on here for rooting for tanking. Can't people see that this is the only way the Celtics will be on top for a sustained period of time? This is the best draft in over a decade! Everyone needs to embrace losing for this year and next and know it's for the greater good.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2014, 08:28:57 AM »

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I don't understand the resistance on here for rooting for tanking.

Intentionally losing games is dishonorable. That should be simple enough to understand.


Can't people see that this is the only way the Celtics will be on top for a sustained period of time?

This just isn't true, no matter how many times you or others try to claim it is. There are plenty of ways to build a good roster.


Everyone needs to embrace losing for this year and next and know it's for the greater good.

You are certainly within your right to root for the team however you want, even if I or others find it distasteful. But you better accept that your viewpoint isn't the only one out there, and is one I personally think is just wrong.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2014, 08:35:30 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.
Would you prefer if I said very good? Enjoy a very good PG in the NBA returning from injury? The league has been decimated this season, we should be so lucky to have our best player coming along reasonably well.

I like watching basketball, and I enjoy Rondo's game. Always have since his first summer league stint. I enjoy it quite a bit more than Mario Chalmers, for example. More importantly he's the on court leader of this team, so yes I'm going to root for his success and health over grumbling about being overrated and ruining Ainge's master plan to hit rock bottom.

I look at Rondo and Chalmers the same. One is extremely flawed defensively but is the best clutch shooter in the NBA and the other is great defensively but will never become a great shooter. I don't understand the resistance on here for rooting for tanking. Can't people see that this is the only way the Celtics will be on top for a sustained period of time? This is the best draft in over a decade! Everyone needs to embrace losing for this year and next and know it's for the greater good.

Calling Chalmers the best clutch shooter in the NBA. Comparing Rondo to Chalmers. Can't tell if trolling or just really "rational". That's pretty incredible.

Embiid might stay in school. So that takes the whole draft down a notch.

You could get the worst record in the universe and still wind up with less than the first pick. You could end up with a bust. You could end up with less than the worst record and end up with a 1st overall pick.

The season may not matter to you but it does to some. For example Brad Stevens needs some experience. Being competitive helps the young ones grow (I don't know what you think of Sully but he's one of the bright spots of this team (maybe you think Sully's like Jason Collins but Jason Collins is better at being tall but can't rebound while Sully is better at rebounding but will never become tall)).

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2014, 08:49:17 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.
Would you prefer if I said very good? Enjoy a very good PG in the NBA returning from injury? The league has been decimated this season, we should be so lucky to have our best player coming along reasonably well.

I like watching basketball, and I enjoy Rondo's game. Always have since his first summer league stint. I enjoy it quite a bit more than Mario Chalmers, for example. More importantly he's the on court leader of this team, so yes I'm going to root for his success and health over grumbling about being overrated and ruining Ainge's master plan to hit rock bottom.

I look at Rondo and Chalmers the same. One is extremely flawed defensively but is the best clutch shooter in the NBA and the other is great defensively but will never become a great shooter. I don't understand the resistance on here for rooting for tanking. Can't people see that this is the only way the Celtics will be on top for a sustained period of time? This is the best draft in over a decade! Everyone needs to embrace losing for this year and next and know it's for the greater good.

Calling Chalmers the best clutch shooter in the NBA. Comparing Rondo to Chalmers. Can't tell if trolling or just really "rational". That's pretty incredible.

Embiid might stay in school. So that takes the whole draft down a notch.

You could get the worst record in the universe and still wind up with less than the first pick. You could end up with a bust. You could end up with less than the worst record and end up with a 1st overall pick.

The season may not matter to you but it does to some. For example Brad Stevens needs some experience. Being competitive helps the young ones grow (I don't know what you think of Sully but he's one of the bright spots of this team (maybe you think Sully's like Jason Collins but Jason Collins is better at being tall but can't rebound while Sully is better at rebounding but will never become tall)).

It's not trolling at all. Look at the last few years on the playoffs. How many times has that guy missed? He is clutch with a capital C.

If you think Embiid is really staying I have a bridge to sell you. Come on! I assure you most prospects say the same stuff only to declare. I'm not worried about that. Ditto for Parker and Wiggins. Stevens getting NBA experience will come later when the C's are truly ready to win #18

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2014, 08:52:30 AM »

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Hopefully to leave soon.....as he proves his recovery is full.

Winning the next ten games will pretty much destroy the Celtics chances at a fast rebuild

And we watch Mitch tank the Lakers for Wiggins.

Stupidity at its best with this organization

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2014, 08:57:23 AM »

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It's not trolling at all. Look at the last few years on the playoffs. How many times has that guy missed? He is clutch with a capital C.

He misses a lot, but when he makes a shot you remember because its a big deal as its in big games that the Heat have been playing the last 3 years. Its also memorable because he doesn't shoot that often.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2014, 08:58:27 AM »

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Rondo came back because as part of the recovery from ACL surgery you have to play. You can't just rehab on the practice court you have to play in live games.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2014, 09:09:45 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

But he isn't one of the best. He's extremely overrated. That being said he's the best player on the Celtics roster and because he played with "The Big 3" he hasn't lost that luster around the league yet. What's the difference between Rondo and say someone like Mario Chalmers? He's probably top 10 at his position but Celticsblog has overrated him as this superstar game changer.
Would you prefer if I said very good? Enjoy a very good PG in the NBA returning from injury? The league has been decimated this season, we should be so lucky to have our best player coming along reasonably well.

I like watching basketball, and I enjoy Rondo's game. Always have since his first summer league stint. I enjoy it quite a bit more than Mario Chalmers, for example. More importantly he's the on court leader of this team, so yes I'm going to root for his success and health over grumbling about being overrated and ruining Ainge's master plan to hit rock bottom.

I look at Rondo and Chalmers the same. One is extremely flawed defensively but is the best clutch shooter in the NBA and the other is great defensively but will never become a great shooter. I don't understand the resistance on here for rooting for tanking. Can't people see that this is the only way the Celtics will be on top for a sustained period of time? This is the best draft in over a decade! Everyone needs to embrace losing for this year and next and know it's for the greater good.

Calling Chalmers the best clutch shooter in the NBA. Comparing Rondo to Chalmers. Can't tell if trolling or just really "rational". That's pretty incredible.

Embiid might stay in school. So that takes the whole draft down a notch.

You could get the worst record in the universe and still wind up with less than the first pick. You could end up with a bust. You could end up with less than the worst record and end up with a 1st overall pick.

The season may not matter to you but it does to some. For example Brad Stevens needs some experience. Being competitive helps the young ones grow (I don't know what you think of Sully but he's one of the bright spots of this team (maybe you think Sully's like Jason Collins but Jason Collins is better at being tall but can't rebound while Sully is better at rebounding but will never become tall)).

It's not trolling at all. Look at the last few years on the playoffs. How many times has that guy missed? He is clutch with a capital C.


  He made just under 42% of his shots in last year's playoffs, including 35% on threes. I could check if you like but that's probably not an all-time record for accuracy or anything.

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2014, 09:58:52 AM »

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Whining about winning games, and recently Rondo's road back from injury, is my least favorite aspect of being a team in transition. It happened in the down years before the big 3, it's in full force this season.

Being ok with losing is one thing. Rooting for it in close spots with one eye on the draft, sure. But I can't get behind feeling frustrated that this team has a little heart, a competitive spirit, and our player makeup isn't quite so dysfunctional that we aren't the punching bag of the league. One of the best point guards in the NBA is back playing games and coming into form, enjoy it.

Sarcasm?

Re: why did Rondo come back?
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2014, 10:00:25 AM »

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Because he was ready to play and the only way for him to get back to full strength is to play in real games.
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