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Loul Deng on the state of the Cavs
« on: February 03, 2014, 02:11:48 PM »

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It’s been a true culture shock for Luol Deng since he’s been a Cleveland Cavalier over the past 26 days. Not in a good way, either.

Deng has seen how a team mired in losing since LeBron James left town wrongly caters to its young star players, even as they continue to undermine head coach Mike Brown at almost every turn. In Chicago, where Deng broke in and played nine-plus seasons, there is a winning culture where players are expected to act like professionals and understand that they will suffer the consequences if they step out of line.

As Deng recently told one close friend, “the stuff going on in practice would never be tolerated by the coaching staff or the front office back in Chicago. It’s a mess."

Deng was brought in to help clean it up when he arrived in a deal for Andrew Bynum on Jan. 7. But since then, he’s seen players get thrown out of practice, take off their uniform tops at halftime and threaten not to play, mouth off to Brown and generally act like spoiled brats. Entering Saturday’s game at Houston, the Cavs had lost seven of their last 11 games since the Deng trade.

There is no accountability, as Dion Waiters found out when he was kicked out of practice last week but still got his usual minutes against the Knicks. Brown isn’t getting much help from GM Chris Grant, who is expected to be fired at season’s end because of the losing and problems in the locker room.

The Cavs were supposed to challenge for a playoff spot, but not to worry. All the losing isn’t keeping them from having a good time. During their trip to New York, several players enjoyed themselves immensely the night before the game against the Knicks, partying into the wee hours with J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert and 49ers QB Colin Kaepernick, and other NFL players. Their late-night/early morning carousing played a factor when they didn’t even try in their blow-out loss to the Knicks.

This franchise is a mess. Coach sucks, has no ability to orchestrate a offense, players suck, and management is horrible. Not to mention their FO should be fired. Kyrie Irving was supposed to be the franchise player, and leader, but he clearly can't do any of that.

From top to bottom this might be the worst franchise in the NBA. Do people wonder why Lebron ever left?

This franchise is a mess. Coach sucks, players suck, management sucks. From top to bottom this is one of the worst franchises in the NBA.

The only thing I fault Lebron for is making a silly TV about his free agency and that stupid celebration he had with Bosh and Wade. As far as the move to Miami, he was right.

But because he's been so dominant in recent years, he could've won a least one championship, but would it really be worth it all? None of us want to work for a terrible employer, or business.

And Lebron, considered the best basketball player prospect coming out of high school, spent so many years... That he finally realized that.

Obviously, the thing that kept him committed to Cleveland was probably the fans and that it was his home town. Other than that I do feel some pity and sorrow for the fans that constantly pray that they may see the ring. But I think just like Lebron, their left out in the rain.
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Re: Loul Deng on the state of the Cavs
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2014, 02:26:42 PM »

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No posts crucifying Deng for not keeping it in the locker room?
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2014, 02:28:32 PM »

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Franchises that are bad for years on end are that way for a reason.  LeBron's exit has really crippled that franchise for years.  It takes some true incompetence to stay bad despite having all of the high draft picks that team has had in a row.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2014, 02:33:10 PM »

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No posts crucifying Deng for not keeping it in the locker room?

Unfortunately I got it from ESPN cavs blog writer, but I cannot find the link anymore, and that was pretty much it.

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Re: Luol Deng on the state of the Cavs
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2014, 02:35:57 PM »

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This kind of stuff is why it's always seemed so far-fetched that LeBron would decide to come back.  Just not a good organization.

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2014, 02:37:14 PM »

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No posts crucifying Deng for not keeping it in the locker room?

Unfortunately I got it from ESPN cavs blog writer, but I cannot find the link anymore, and that was pretty much it.

If you got it from a Cavs blog writer, he's a plagiarist. It's from a Mitch Lawrence piece from the NY Daily News:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/lawrence-deng-isn-happy-traded-mess-cleveland-article-1.1598983
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2014, 02:45:15 PM »

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No posts crucifying Deng for not keeping it in the locker room?

Unfortunately I got it from ESPN cavs blog writer, but I cannot find the link anymore, and that was pretty much it.

If you got it from a Cavs blog writer, he's a plagiarist. It's from a Mitch Lawrence piece from the NY Daily News:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/lawrence-deng-isn-happy-traded-mess-cleveland-article-1.1598983

I actually saw it there originally, but I forgot what the link was. I think the Cavs blog writer was quoting him, or probably as you said plagiarized; therefore, it got taken down due to that.
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No posts crucifying Deng for not keeping it in the locker room?

Unfortunately I got it from ESPN cavs blog writer, but I cannot find the link anymore, and that was pretty much it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/lawrence-deng-isn-happy-traded-mess-cleveland-article-1.1598983

There you go.


edit: I should finish threads before posting.
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Re: Loul Deng on the state of the Cavs
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2014, 03:00:12 PM »

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No posts crucifying Deng for not keeping it in the locker room?

Unfortunately I got it from ESPN cavs blog writer, but I cannot find the link anymore, and that was pretty much it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/lawrence-deng-isn-happy-traded-mess-cleveland-article-1.1598983

There you go.


edit: I should finish threads before posting.

Trust me that's me at my job every day lol.

I don't see the Cavs blog writer on ESPN anymore. I'm assuming he got in big trouble. But that is strange... I remember him quoting him, maybe he just didn't give any credit?

He was a good writer though. He wrote about the state of the franchise, and how they could upgrade it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2014, 03:01:59 PM »

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This kind of stuff is why it's always seemed so far-fetched that LeBron would decide to come back.  Just not a good organization.
And explains why they can't win any games at all even when there talent is healthy.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2014, 03:04:02 PM »

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This kind of stuff is why it's always seemed so far-fetched that LeBron would decide to come back.  Just not a good organization.
And explains why they can't win any games at all even when there talent is healthy.

Its easy to blame the coach, but eventually having such a poor season after season has to mean something else. Mike Brown is a horrible coach, and honestly I can see Mike D'Antoni being a good coach that stresses offensive for Kyrie, but at this point the Cavs need to really get more seasoned vets to get their young talent in check.
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This kind of stuff is why it's always seemed so far-fetched that LeBron would decide to come back.  Just not a good organization.
Yeah but I don't think Chris Grant will be there and you know Lebron wouldn't put up with that crap.  It would be Irving that would be sent out for other pieces if he still did this stuff with Lebron back in town.
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I still feel the way Lebron left is bad...again, I don't care if he left for any team as long as he left quietly and not have a reality show base on his departure.

But yes, that organization is a mess and bad on so many levels. They need to fire the entire front office down to all the coaching staff. If you cannot even control a couple of kids, how do they think they're going to control or even tempt superstars into coming to town?