If the C's Pick Falls Out of the Top-3, Would You Trade It For Kevin Love?

[The One]

I think Danny has this idea already going.. Dont rule out Aldridge if he cant extend in Portland.. but I see DA making 2 big moves to put a team together... 07 all over again but around Rondo instead of Pierce..

Aldridge is going nowhere.  Not leaving Rip City.

[D.o.s.]

I agree that LaMarcus isn't moving.

I don't think we should trade our pick for Kevin Love.

[Monkhouse]

If the pick falls out of top 3, then its a no-brainer...

Love> Sully. Yes Sully may be better in the future, but people still forget Love is a stronger, slightly quicker, and taller/leaner player than Sullinger is.

Where Sullinger seems gassed after thirty minutes of playing, Love doesn't and even seems more motivated to try to put the team on his back.

I think you guys really underestimate how Love plays... Everyone seems to think he completely sucks, but that isn't true. His team help defense is very underrated. Its just his individual one on one defense that just blows. Now if you can get a defensive anchor like Gasol or Asik, then I would say its worth it.

Plus defensive rebounding is still considered defense... Love boxes out extremely well. Where Sullinger seems to excel in rebounding too, it isn't due to the boxing out ability that Love can complete.. Sullinger seems like a more smarter player, but Love seems like a mix of both.

Love is quicker, stronger, can shoot the 3 ball better, and has shown to have flashes of a MVP candidate..

Love is a superstar in my book. In this league you need two or three superstars. We just need one more piece, and a few good role or above average players to help fit in our system, and Banner 18/19/20 here we go!
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This is my trade proposal, but THIS CAN only work if Love himself has stated that he wants out. Obviously if he requests LA, I'm going to see Kahn scoff at that. They literally have nothing to offer Minny, and nothing valuable.


Sullinger+Green+Vitor Faverani+Keith Bogans and whoever to fit the salary in trade,  our 14 first round pick, and the 2015 Philly pick that is essentially possibly next years draft pick, or two second rounders. A second rounder from the Heat, and Nets draft pick 2015 next year.

Green is a definite improvement of Brewer, who can't score as well, but can only defend. Green is a way better upgrade, and can or can not be the 3rd or 4th best player. Sullinger is already proving his potential, and he's 21 on a two year friendly contract. They get our draft pick this year, and use that as a good building block for whatever position they need.
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Can anyone imagine the pick and roll that Love/Rondo would have? Most bigs can't guard Love or shut him down, cause of his ability to shoot threes. Some bigs have to come out of their comfort zone, only for Love to dribble past them, or shoot the three the moment they try to contest it.

Love is taking more threes, but isn't as converting them as well. I'm a firm believe Rubio isn't better than Rondo when it comes to passing.

I think Rondo is the best passer the Celtics have seen in a long time. When he passes the ball, there is a slight knack and tendency that Rondo does to the ball, to make sure the player that catches it has a firm grip on it and is ready to take the shot.

Rubio seems more flashier, but doesn't seem as effective.

[Moranis]

What other moves is Boston making?

[Monkhouse]

What other moves is Boston making?

Going for Asik.

[D.o.s.]

Kahn's not the Minnesota GM anymore.

And I go the other way from your opinion--I think that Love is overrated by people who don't actually watch the Timberwolves. The only way he's in the MVP discussion is if you don't think an MVP should be able to lead his team to over .500

[Monkhouse]

Kahn's not the Minnesota GM anymore.

And I go the other way from your opinion--I think that Love is overrated by people who don't actually watch the Timberwolves. The only way he's in the MVP discussion is if you don't think an MVP should be able to lead his team to over .500

Oh yeah I forgot Kahn left.

Either way, we can agree to disagree.

And you guys always bring up this conversation that Love can't lead his team to the playoffs, but... The Wolves haven't done anything to make up for Loves deficiencies. Pekovic isn't a rim protector, Rubio is overrated on defense due to steals, Brewer is a good defender, but nothing else.

Put Love on this team with Asik, and Rondo. And I guarantee he'll be putting up even better numbers especially in the Eastern Conference.

[D.o.s.]

I think his numbers will decline as he ends up on a better team, actually. His team this year are worse than his breakout season two years ago, and this team is way better than that one.

[wdleehi]

Kahn's not the Minnesota GM anymore.

And I go the other way from your opinion--I think that Love is overrated by people who don't actually watch the Timberwolves. The only way he's in the MVP discussion is if you don't think an MVP should be able to lead his team to over .500

That type of thinking would have prevented the Celtics from trading for KG on a team that was worse then this T-Wolves.

[Monkhouse]

I think his numbers will decline as he ends up on a better team, actually. His team this year are worse than his breakout season two years ago, and this team is way better than that one.

Completely disagree.

Rondo has made KG/Pierce/Allen better in literally every form with his easy passing...

Except for Allen who never got a lot of touches per game, Rondo still made them all look like superstars. Imagine if they were in their prime... oh god.

[Fafnir]

Kahn's not the Minnesota GM anymore.

And I go the other way from your opinion--I think that Love is overrated by people who don't actually watch the Timberwolves. The only way he's in the MVP discussion is if you don't think an MVP should be able to lead his team to over .500

That type of thinking would have prevented the Celtics from trading for KG on a team that was worse then this T-Wolves.

Yup.

Love isn't a "complete" player. But he's an all-nba productive big man. The C's will be fortunate if our pick no matter where it lands is as productive as Kevin Love is right now.

[D.o.s.]

Kahn's not the Minnesota GM anymore.

And I go the other way from your opinion--I think that Love is overrated by people who don't actually watch the Timberwolves. The only way he's in the MVP discussion is if you don't think an MVP should be able to lead his team to over .500

That type of thinking would have prevented the Celtics from trading for KG on a team that was worse then this T-Wolves.

I'd agree with your sentiment if the gulf between the talents of Minne-era KG and present day Kevin Love weren't so obvious that even as basic a metric as the eye test would bear it out.

[CFAN38]

Looking at possible love trades one problem is the players available outside of the 2014 top 3. Exum and Smart are both poor combinations with Rubio because of the general lock of outside shooting in that backcourt. Randle would be the logical pick but a trade from the Cs would likely be built around Sully and would leave them with two young PFs.

[D.o.s.]

I think his numbers will decline as he ends up on a better team, actually. His team this year are worse than his breakout season two years ago, and this team is way better than that one.

Completely disagree.

Rondo has made KG/Pierce/Allen better in literally every form with his easy passing...

Except for Allen who never got a lot of touches per game, Rondo still made them all look like superstars. Imagine if they were in their prime... oh god.

Again, this sounds more and more like you're not watching enough T-Wolves games.

Kevin Love gets the ball to him where and when he likes it as many times down the court as he wants. Because he's a legitimate stretch four and a real threat to score from 0-25ft away from the basket, he's at a great advantage re: getting the ball where he wants to.

Rubio's having an awful season, but none of that has to do with his passing. Love has also consistently achieved his numbers with and without talented passing teammates.


Anyway this is getting away from the point--your initial proposal is still giving up a king's ransom to get him. Like I said earlier, this:

Sullinger+Green+Vitor Faverani+Keith Bogans
and whoever to fit the salary in trade, 
our 14 first round pick,
the 2015 Philly pick (or two second rounders)
A second rounder from the Heat, and Nets draft pick 2015 next year.

Is wayyyyy too much for Kevin Love. Even if I thought he was worth chasing.

[wdleehi]

Kahn's not the Minnesota GM anymore.

And I go the other way from your opinion--I think that Love is overrated by people who don't actually watch the Timberwolves. The only way he's in the MVP discussion is if you don't think an MVP should be able to lead his team to over .500

That type of thinking would have prevented the Celtics from trading for KG on a team that was worse then this T-Wolves.

I'd agree with your sentiment if the gulf between the talents of Minne-era KG and present day Kevin Love weren't so obvious that even as basic a metric as the eye test would bear it out.

I wasn't saying Love is as good as KG was.


But if the Celtics can add a 25 year old PF averaging 25 and 13, the Celtics should go for it.