Bradley Potentially > Ray Allen

[slamtheking]

he'd be a good guard off the bench, not a starter and especially not a closer.  rarely does anything good happen when he has the ball at the end of a game in a crunch situation.  take the past 2 games for example-->a ball handler or distributor he is not.

I think he is fine as the starter, and should be locked up for that role moving forward. Him and Rondo are the backcourt of the future. I agree he hasn't made many clutch plays recently, but he is probably still trying to get comfortable in that clutch shooter role. He was never really needed in clutch situations in the past, with Pierce & Ray the designated go-to clutch guys his first 2-3yrs in the league.

Nobody can argue that Bradley is a good handler or distributor, because he isn't. But he is a solid shooter and a great cutter, and he has RR as his backcourt mate to take care of the majority of the passing and the ball-handling.

why lock up a player like AB who's looking for starter-level money that cannot finish a game.  He's a good defender but limited offensively.  he's not a player that can be trusted with the ball at the end of a close game. 
He's a 3rd or 4th guard in a good guard rotation.  nothing wrong with that but it does play a role in how much he should be paid.

[tyrone biggums]

Avery Bradley is only 23 years old. We know what kind of defensive player he is, but as Max and Mike Gorman says, he is developing a shooters mentality.  I keep thinking of who will be the next Ray Allen, and every  game I say it is AB.  AB has the potential to be better than Allen.

I really like Bradley but no...no he doesn't.

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Well if we're going by this logic:

Rondo = John Stockton
Bradley= Ray Allen
Green= James Worthy
Sully= Charles Barkley
Olynyk= Dirk Nowitzki

Why exactly do we care so much about the 2014 draft when we have 5 potential hall of famers??
 

[KJR]

Bradley potentially could be Don Chaney.

Ray Allen in his prime had stop/start foot speed and hand speed that is much faster than Bradley's.  Steph Curry is a better equivalent, but he needs to keep it up for the next 10 years.

[dmny5000]

Or for the love of God. I'd still take old Judas over AB.

Bradley is not a starter on a championship team, sorry. He's not developing a shooter's mentality, he's developing into a chucker.

He's shooting about 45% from the field and nearly 40% from three.  They are very good numbers foraguard, and not the numbers ofa chucker.  If your putting up those percentages then either you have solid shot selection, or you''re just really, really good..

That's the beauty of celticsblog. Avery is a chucker at 45% on the year but Sully is the "future" shooting 44% and he's a PF/C.

[RRNoLookPass]

he'd be a good guard off the bench, not a starter and especially not a closer.  rarely does anything good happen when he has the ball at the end of a game in a crunch situation.  take the past 2 games for example-->a ball handler or distributor he is not.

I think he is fine as the starter, and should be locked up for that role moving forward. Him and Rondo are the backcourt of the future. I agree he hasn't made many clutch plays recently, but he is probably still trying to get comfortable in that clutch shooter role. He was never really needed in clutch situations in the past, with Pierce & Ray the designated go-to clutch guys his first 2-3yrs in the league.

Nobody can argue that Bradley is a good handler or distributor, because he isn't. But he is a solid shooter and a great cutter, and he has RR as his backcourt mate to take care of the majority of the passing and the ball-handling.

why lock up a player like AB who's looking for starter-level money that cannot finish a game.  He's a good defender but limited offensively.  he's not a player that can be trusted with the ball at the end of a close game. 
He's a 3rd or 4th guard in a good guard rotation.  nothing wrong with that but it does play a role in how much he should be paid.

For a guy who can't be trusted at the end of games, Bradley is a pretty efficient shooter. Usually shooters who can't be trusted at the end of games are low-efficiency chuckers with poor shot selection, something Bradley is not. It seems like people are just way over-reacting to his last second error lastnight. And I don't know if I'd describe a SG averaging almost 15ppg (at .450 FG% and .365 3p%) as limited offensively. He's a solid shooter, a great backdoor cutter, and an Athletic finisher...he's only limited when it comes to passing & ball-handling.

[SHAQATTACK]

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[pearljammer10]

Or for the love of God. I'd still take old Judas over AB.

Bradley is not a starter on a championship team, sorry. He's not developing a shooter's mentality, he's developing into a chucker.

He's shooting about 45% from the field and nearly 40% from three.  They are very good numbers foraguard, and not the numbers ofa chucker.  If your putting up those percentages then either you have solid shot selection, or you''re just really, really good..

Says who? His season numbers are 44% and 36% from the three. And in 11 games in January thus far he has shot 41% and 31% with 17(!!!) shots per game including 20 per game in his last 5.

Chucker status indeed, especially for guy who isnt a good shooter to begin with.

[RRNoLookPass]

Says who? His season numbers are 44% and 36% from the three. And in 11 games in January thus far he has shot 41% and 31% with 17(!!!) shots per game including 20 per game in his last 5.

Chucker status indeed, especially for guy who isnt a good shooter to begin with.

I would hardly consider someone with a .441 FG% and .365 3p% "not a good shooter to begin with." And up until the last few games, which were rough for Bradley, he was shooting .40% from 3p range. His 0-5 3p night lastnight alone brought his percentage down from .38% to .365%

And you don't judge someone just based on one month of the season. You go by their production for the season as a whole. Even the best shooters in the league often experience slumps, and have to shoot their way of them. Look at the January Ray Allen is having...it ain't pretty, but he's still firing away.

[tyrone biggums]

Well if we're going by this logic:

Rondo = John Stockton
Bradley= Ray Allen
Green= James Worthy
Sully= Charles Barkley
Olynyk= Dirk Nowitzki

Why exactly do we care so much about the 2014 draft when we have 5 potential hall of famers??
 

You wouldn't want the next Jordan/LeBron in Wiggins or the next Hakeem in Embiid?

[Mazingerz]

Ray Allen Prime >>> than Avery Bradley Prime;

Bradley is the ultimate chucker (hint hint: contract year -pay me more $$$$) this season; He does not understand the concept of rotating the ball where there is an advantage;

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Avery Bradley is only 23 years old. We know what kind of defensive player he is, but as Max and Mike Gorman says, he is developing a shooters mentality.  I keep thinking of who will be the next Ray Allen, and every  game I say it is AB.  AB has the potential to be better than Allen.

EL OH EL

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Avery Bradley is only 23 years old. We know what kind of defensive player he is, but as Max and Mike Gorman says, he is developing a shooters mentality.  I keep thinking of who will be the next Ray Allen, and every  game I say it is AB.  AB has the potential to be better than Allen.

I respectfully disagree. You're saying that AB could be the best shooter who ever lived. I think he's a long way from that.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Ray Allen in his prime was versatile as hell. He could penetrate and make plays. Just compare AB and Ray Allen's raw assist totals.

Even with just shooting alone, you're talking about a guy who can have an entire system based around his shooting abilities. In comparison AB is barely a threat at the moment.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Fab Melo  >  Kareem Abdul Jabbar

 

JJJ > KG   

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Pressey > Magic Johnson