Source: Rondo could be on the move soon?

[SHAQATTACK]

Much as I luv Rondo and want him to stay.....

Him leaving maybe bet for both parties.....unless DA...sees a way to reload us with. Love or another All Star elite player

[LarBrd33]

I know Rondo is just getting back to things. But its incredible how with Pressey we win vs a 500 team (Raptors) and we lose 2 against really bad teams

Rondo's a great player, but he needs scorers around him if this team is going to be successful.  He's a weak offensive player. 

[Vox_Populi]

Bledsoe's defense is All-Defense worthy and if he were in the East, he'd be an All-Star.

   According to synergy sports Bledsoe's 185th in the league in opponent's ppp. Those numbers, his opponent's production number at 82games and his defensive numbers at basketballreference are *all* well below anything I've seen from Rondo at any point in his career. It looks like he's had a grand total of 1 second place vote in his career. Wake me up when the coaches agree with your assessment and put him on the all-defense team.

Defense numbers are often heavily predicated on the overall defensive efficiency of the team. Which is why Bledsoe's best defensive year came when the Clippers were 9th in defensive efficiency. I wouldn't lean to heavily on the rankings by Synergy either, they aren't normalized to account for the disparity of defensive plays (look at how Scola's ranked). And frankly, going up against point guards in the West is a harder task than in the East.

Also, Bledsoe had a DRtg of 101 last year, which beats Rondo's last two rankings. So I'm not sure how *all* of them are well below any year by Rondo. And how you managed to compare the production of their opponents on 82games.com in years past when it only accounts for starters, is beyond me. Lastly, appealing to authority is nice and all, but it's not like these coaches always get it right. These are the same guys who barely put Gasol on the team last year, who continue to vote in Bryant, and have only voted Iguodala in once. Bledsoe's well-known as an excellent defender, whether or not you agree, or whether or not the coaches vote him in, doesn't really change the fact he is.

[Vox_Populi]

I know Rondo is just getting back to things. But its incredible how with Pressey we win vs a 500 team (Raptors) and we lose 2 against really bad teams

Rondo's a great player, but he needs scorers around him if this team is going to be successful.  He's a weak offensive player.

I'm not sure if this is criticism, but if you look at Chicago's issues with Rose, and the Clipper's biggest issue, it's that their teams don't have enough individual scorers. Most point guards, whether they're talented offensively or not, can't go anywhere without competent scorers.

[SHAQATTACK]

Rondo ...Harden and Howard .....would be a pretty nice team......

[BballTim]

Bledsoe's defense is All-Defense worthy and if he were in the East, he'd be an All-Star.

   According to synergy sports Bledsoe's 185th in the league in opponent's ppp. Those numbers, his opponent's production number at 82games and his defensive numbers at basketballreference are *all* well below anything I've seen from Rondo at any point in his career. It looks like he's had a grand total of 1 second place vote in his career. Wake me up when the coaches agree with your assessment and put him on the all-defense team.

Defense numbers are often heavily predicated on the overall defensive efficiency of the team. Which is why Bledsoe's best defensive year came when the Clippers were 9th in defensive efficiency. I wouldn't lean to heavily on the rankings by Synergy either, they aren't normalized to account for the disparity of defensive plays (look at how Scola's ranked). And frankly, going up against point guards in the West is a harder task than in the East.

Also, Bledsoe had a DRtg of 101 last year, which beats Rondo's last two rankings. So I'm not sure how *all* of them are well below any year by Rondo. And how you managed to compare the production of their opponents on 82games.com in years past when it only accounts for starters, is beyond me. Lastly, appealing to authority is nice and all, but it's not like these coaches always get it right. These are the same guys who barely put Gasol on the team last year, who continue to vote in Bryant, and have only voted Iguodala in once. Bledsoe's well-known as an excellent defender, whether or not you agree, or whether or not the coaches vote him in, doesn't really change the fact he is.

  I'm not sure how 82games only applies to starters and not reserves. Also, this year's Phoenix team is 13th in defense, the difference between that and 9th isn't that big in terms of skewing numbers. What has changed quite a bit is that Bledsoe's playing big minutes  and carrying a much bigger load on offense, which generally has an adverse affect on a player's defense. That's why I said "all", because I was talking about this year, not in the past where he was playing 15-20 minutes a game. Apples to apples his numbers aren't very good.

[bostonsportsfan]

Seriously guys please explain this to me where am I not thinking properly Shouldn't red have traded Russell and Bird by this logic. Didnt we just try this we just got rid of Paul Pierce and KG and got nothing back now we want to say this was so horrible lets do it twice NO lets not make the same mistake again and keep our best players instead

[Vox_Populi]

Bledsoe's defense is All-Defense worthy and if he were in the East, he'd be an All-Star.

   According to synergy sports Bledsoe's 185th in the league in opponent's ppp. Those numbers, his opponent's production number at 82games and his defensive numbers at basketballreference are *all* well below anything I've seen from Rondo at any point in his career. It looks like he's had a grand total of 1 second place vote in his career. Wake me up when the coaches agree with your assessment and put him on the all-defense team.

Defense numbers are often heavily predicated on the overall defensive efficiency of the team. Which is why Bledsoe's best defensive year came when the Clippers were 9th in defensive efficiency. I wouldn't lean to heavily on the rankings by Synergy either, they aren't normalized to account for the disparity of defensive plays (look at how Scola's ranked). And frankly, going up against point guards in the West is a harder task than in the East.

Also, Bledsoe had a DRtg of 101 last year, which beats Rondo's last two rankings. So I'm not sure how *all* of them are well below any year by Rondo. And how you managed to compare the production of their opponents on 82games.com in years past when it only accounts for starters, is beyond me. Lastly, appealing to authority is nice and all, but it's not like these coaches always get it right. These are the same guys who barely put Gasol on the team last year, who continue to vote in Bryant, and have only voted Iguodala in once. Bledsoe's well-known as an excellent defender, whether or not you agree, or whether or not the coaches vote him in, doesn't really change the fact he is.

  I'm not sure how 82games only applies to starters and not reserves. Also, this year's Phoenix team is 13th in defense, the difference between that and 9th isn't that big in terms of skewing numbers. What has changed quite a bit is that Bledsoe's playing big minutes  and carrying a much bigger load on offense, which generally has an adverse affect on a player's defense. That's why I said "all", because I was talking about this year, not in the past where he was playing 15-20 minutes a game. Apples to apples his numbers aren't very good.

I wasn't referencing a skewing in numbers in the difference between Phoenix and L.A. but in the difference between Rondo and Bledsoe's respective teams. Boston's defense, and to be more specific, its particular *brand* of defense, has had an effect of making it's players defensive numbers look better than they are i.e. Ray Allen. It's safe to assume Rondo's numbers would be worse if he were on a different team.

Anyway, at the end of the day, Bledsoe played in 24 games this season. Any apples to apples comparison is essentially impossible due to lack of starting sample size.

[gpap]

Phoenix, huh?

Rondo + Bass for Okafor's expiring, Bledsoe and a pick...

who says no?

I'd be shocked if Phoenix did this

[guava_wrench]

The 'source' is just a writer speculating? That has no more weight than you or I speculating. There is a big difference between guys just speculating and guys citing sources within organiztions.

[Kane3387]

Only the kings seem to be a realistic trade partner due to need and assets they have.

[LarBrd33]

Only the kings seem to be a realistic trade partner due to need and assets they have.

What might that trade look like?  They don't have any expiring contracts, but they do have some nice pieces.

[Celtics4ever]

Do you all think Rondo coming back has hurt or helped his trade value?


From what I seen I think it has to hurt his value.   I know he has a long road back but his mobility and explosive speed look to still be on the mend.

[GreenWarrior]

Do you all think Rondo coming back has hurt or helped his trade value?


From what I seen I think it has to hurt his value.   I know he has a long road back but his mobility and explosive speed look to still be on the mend.

it's too early. he's shown flashes of what we can expect to see of him though. he'll be fine.

[D.o.s.]

Do you all think Rondo coming back has hurt or helped his trade value?


From what I seen I think it has to hurt his value.   I know he has a long road back but his mobility and explosive speed look to still be on the mend.

He's been back for two games. A player's trade value isn't affected by two games.