Where is the love for Olynyk?

[clover]

Perspective:

First, There is no way I am going to take anything away from him for this game because it was excellent. And, he is a very good passer for a big man.

Second -- He was guarded by Ryan Kelly most of the night who he outweighs by about 50 pounds. Honestly, Ryan Kelly could not guard anyone. And during parts of the game he was being guarded by 6-7 Wesley Johnson.

Third -- The Lakers right now are the worst defensive team in basketball, playing with a lot of D-league caliber players. Coming into last night they were giving up 117 points a game in January.

Fourth -- for most of the game his defense continued to be terrible, although he did do a good job on Gasol toward the end of the game.

I look at this as a confidence builder and hopefully he will continue to improve. But, he had one of these games about a month ago and then regressed back to what he had been doing before. I think he is a career second or third guy off the bench at best. Hope I am wrong.

There's some tremendous misinformation here.

First, the Lakers play at a fast speed and thus have high-scoring games, but they've been middle-of-the-pack, like the C's, in shot percentage allowed.

Second, KO measured all of one inch taller and six pounds heavier than Kelly pre-draft last year.

Third, once again, KO had a positive +/- for a game the C's lost.

Oh yeah. Right. The Lakers are loaded with talented guys who play lock down defense. 

No apologies for slandering KO with multiple claims of incorrect information, Vinnie?

Nobody claimed the Lakers are playing lock-down defense, only that they have been about average for the league.

At 15th and 18th in the league, the Lakers and the Celtics are both within .003 of the .451 league average opponent FG%: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014.html

[LooseCannon]

I still think him and sully both would play better next to a shot blocking athletic big.

How many power forwards would play worse next to a shot-blocking athletic big?

[danglertx]

I'm not sure he doesn't end up being a 3 with Sully and a true C on the floor. 

[PhoSita]

Watching that replay from last night, KO's passing kind of reminds me of Manu.

[vinnie]

Perspective:

First, There is no way I am going to take anything away from him for this game because it was excellent. And, he is a very good passer for a big man.

Second -- He was guarded by Ryan Kelly most of the night who he outweighs by about 50 pounds. Honestly, Ryan Kelly could not guard anyone. And during parts of the game he was being guarded by 6-7 Wesley Johnson.

Third -- The Lakers right now are the worst defensive team in basketball, playing with a lot of D-league caliber players. Coming into last night they were giving up 117 points a game in January.

Fourth -- for most of the game his defense continued to be terrible, although he did do a good job on Gasol toward the end of the game.

I look at this as a confidence builder and hopefully he will continue to improve. But, he had one of these games about a month ago and then regressed back to what he had been doing before. I think he is a career second or third guy off the bench at best. Hope I am wrong.

There's some tremendous misinformation here.

First, the Lakers play at a fast speed and thus have high-scoring games, but they've been middle-of-the-pack, like the C's, in shot percentage allowed.

Second, KO measured all of one inch taller and six pounds heavier than Kelly pre-draft last year.

Third, once again, KO had a positive +/- for a game the C's lost.

Oh yeah. Right. The Lakers are loaded with talented guys who play lock down defense. 

No apologies for slandering KO with multiple claims of incorrect information, Vinnie?

Nobody claimed the Lakers are playing lock-down defense, only that they have been about average for the league.

At 15th and 18th in the league, the Lakers and the Celtics are both within .003 of the .451 league average opponent FG%: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014.html

What's incorect? I got Ryan Kelly's weight wrong?

And, just for a little support, I basically said the same thing that Kevin O'Connor wrote in his blog post: "I'm not as impressed about Kelly Olynyk's career-high 25 point performance against the Lakers as most people are. Look, he had a great game, but it was against Ryan Kelly, a fringe NBA player, who couldn't even defend well at the college level. And how quickly we forget that Kelly had a career night when he was defended by Olynyk the majority of the game. "KO" still has a long way to go on the defensive end of the floor, and showed that on Friday against the Lakers."

[SHAQATTACK]

Ok.......so KO is no Garrnet.......

I think DA made a huge haul getting a young 7 ft player who can play ........he was nota lotto pick and he is a better basket ball player than Steven Adams who has all stars to play beside him.

Just how many 7 foot tall players or FA s do you see begging to live in Boston ?     Name em ?  Maybe Fab Melo ?

That's right ......None worth a flip

We are lucky to have this guy .....period.

[LilRip]

I still think him and sully both would play better next to a shot blocking athletic big.

How many power forwards would play worse next to a shot-blocking athletic big?

hmm, ones who can't really shoot and like to hang around in the paint on defense as well? like... Ronnie Turiaf maybe? or Chris Andersen or Larry Sanders (who are both F/Cs)?

[clover]

Perspective:

First, There is no way I am going to take anything away from him for this game because it was excellent. And, he is a very good passer for a big man.

Second -- He was guarded by Ryan Kelly most of the night who he outweighs by about 50 pounds. Honestly, Ryan Kelly could not guard anyone. And during parts of the game he was being guarded by 6-7 Wesley Johnson.

Third -- The Lakers right now are the worst defensive team in basketball, playing with a lot of D-league caliber players. Coming into last night they were giving up 117 points a game in January.

Fourth -- for most of the game his defense continued to be terrible, although he did do a good job on Gasol toward the end of the game.

I look at this as a confidence builder and hopefully he will continue to improve. But, he had one of these games about a month ago and then regressed back to what he had been doing before. I think he is a career second or third guy off the bench at best. Hope I am wrong.

There's some tremendous misinformation here.

First, the Lakers play at a fast speed and thus have high-scoring games, but they've been middle-of-the-pack, like the C's, in shot percentage allowed.

Second, KO measured all of one inch taller and six pounds heavier than Kelly pre-draft last year.

Third, once again, KO had a positive +/- for a game the C's lost.

Oh yeah. Right. The Lakers are loaded with talented guys who play lock down defense. 

No apologies for slandering KO with multiple claims of incorrect information, Vinnie?

Nobody claimed the Lakers are playing lock-down defense, only that they have been about average for the league.

At 15th and 18th in the league, the Lakers and the Celtics are both within .003 of the .451 league average opponent FG%: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014.html

What's incorect? I got Ryan Kelly's weight wrong?

And, just for a little support, I basically said the same thing that Kevin O'Connor wrote in his blog post: "I'm not as impressed about Kelly Olynyk's career-high 25 point performance against the Lakers as most people are. Look, he had a great game, but it was against Ryan Kelly, a fringe NBA player, who couldn't even defend well at the college level. And how quickly we forget that Kelly had a career night when he was defended by Olynyk the majority of the game. "KO" still has a long way to go on the defensive end of the floor, and showed that on Friday against the Lakers."

What did you get wrong?

1) Saying you weren't going to take anything away from KO's performance--and then presenting significant misinformation the opponent involved.

2) Saying the Lakers are the worst team defensively, when you are demonstrably about 15 team rankings off on that.

3) Saying he was facing a player who was at a 50-pound disadvantage, when you are demonstrably nearly 50-pounds off on that claim.

Other than that, great post!

(And the other KO has been tough on KO since the night he was drafted.)

[vinnie]

Perspective:

First, There is no way I am going to take anything away from him for this game because it was excellent. And, he is a very good passer for a big man.

Second -- He was guarded by Ryan Kelly most of the night who he outweighs by about 50 pounds. Honestly, Ryan Kelly could not guard anyone. And during parts of the game he was being guarded by 6-7 Wesley Johnson.

Third -- The Lakers right now are the worst defensive team in basketball, playing with a lot of D-league caliber players. Coming into last night they were giving up 117 points a game in January.

Fourth -- for most of the game his defense continued to be terrible, although he did do a good job on Gasol toward the end of the game.

I look at this as a confidence builder and hopefully he will continue to improve. But, he had one of these games about a month ago and then regressed back to what he had been doing before. I think he is a career second or third guy off the bench at best. Hope I am wrong.

There's some tremendous misinformation here.

First, the Lakers play at a fast speed and thus have high-scoring games, but they've been middle-of-the-pack, like the C's, in shot percentage allowed.

Second, KO measured all of one inch taller and six pounds heavier than Kelly pre-draft last year.

Third, once again, KO had a positive +/- for a game the C's lost.

Oh yeah. Right. The Lakers are loaded with talented guys who play lock down defense. 

No apologies for slandering KO with multiple claims of incorrect information, Vinnie?

Nobody claimed the Lakers are playing lock-down defense, only that they have been about average for the league.

At 15th and 18th in the league, the Lakers and the Celtics are both within .003 of the .451 league average opponent FG%: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014.html

What's incorect? I got Ryan Kelly's weight wrong?

And, just for a little support, I basically said the same thing that Kevin O'Connor wrote in his blog post: "I'm not as impressed about Kelly Olynyk's career-high 25 point performance against the Lakers as most people are. Look, he had a great game, but it was against Ryan Kelly, a fringe NBA player, who couldn't even defend well at the college level. And how quickly we forget that Kelly had a career night when he was defended by Olynyk the majority of the game. "KO" still has a long way to go on the defensive end of the floor, and showed that on Friday against the Lakers."

What did you get wrong?

1) Saying you weren't going to take anything away from KO's performance--and then presenting significant misinformation the opponent involved.

2) Saying the Lakers are the worst team defensively, when you are demonstrably about 15 team rankings off on that.

3) Saying he was facing a player who was at a 50-pound disadvantage, when you are demonstrably nearly 50-pounds off on that claim.

Other than that, great post!

(And the other KO has been tough on KO since the night he was drafted.)

Regarding Lakers defense, I specifically highlighted they were giving up 117 points a game in January. Pretty bad. I hope you would agree.

I admitted I was wrong on the weight thing, but Ryan Kelly is a horrible defensive player. And Kelly lit up Olynyk when KO was guarding him.

Other than that, great post.

[PhoSita]

Regardless of who it was against, KO had a pretty good game, one in which he exhibited a number of the different NBA-level skills he has in his repertoire.

Even if it was against a bad defensive player, a good game is a good sign.  Real NBA-caliber players are supposed to light up inferior competition, and that's what KO did against Ryan Kelly and the Lakers.

Do we really have to make it out to be anything more or less than that?

[Celtics18]

He looked pretty good against the Magic as well.  I think Klynyk is starting to find himself as an NBA player.  I'm hoping he can continue to improve over the rest of the season.  He's still got work to do, but my belief in his bright future has been somewhat restored over these last two games. 

[D.o.s.]

Because most of the time he kind of sucks at basketball.

[Celtics18]

Because most of the time he kind of sucks at basketball.

And, some of the time he's really good at basketball.  I expect the "good" to start outweighing the "suck" at some point soon. 

The truth is that, generally speaking, unless they are Tim Duncan or Lebron James, rookies kind of suck at NBA basketball. 

[fitzhickey]

I still think him and sully both would play better next to a shot blocking athletic big.

How many power forwards would play worse next to a shot-blocking athletic big?

Larry Sanders

[kozlodoev]

I still think him and sully both would play better next to a shot blocking athletic big.

How many power forwards would play worse next to a shot-blocking athletic big?

Larry Sanders

Larry Sanders is a center. And even if he weren't, a list of one is nothing to write home about here.